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Mexican Standoff On Second Amendment
IBD Editorials ^ | July 7, 2009 | DAN GIFFORD AND MICHAEL I. KRAUSS

Posted on 07/07/2009 6:30:11 PM PDT by Kaslin

Big lies die slowly. After a claim by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives that 90% of Mexican drug dealers' military weapons (machine guns, hand grenades and missiles) come from American gun stores was exposed as a lie several months ago, it's back — this time with the imprimatur of the Government Accountability Office.

A June 21 CBS "60 Minutes" report by Anderson Cooper was clearly coordinated to coincide with release of the GAO report and a similar one by "activist" Josh Sugarmann.

You are likely to soon hear and read that the GAO report commissioned by Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., confirms what Mexico's attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora, told Cooper: "Two thousand two hundred grenades, missile and rocket launchers!"

Cue Cooper as a video of machine guns, hand grenades and other weaponry fill the screen: "It turns out 90% of them are purchased in the U.S."

That's not all. You will hear from Sugarmann that Mexican drug dealers are buying FN Herstal Five-seven pistols from licensed U.S. gun merchants because those pistols fire bullets that penetrate protective body armor.

What you are unlikely to hear and read is that all such military weapons are illegal in the U.S., that Mexican criminals are supplied through an international black market and that this black market prominently features weapons the U.S. sold to the Mexican military and that are resold to drug cartels by corrupt Mexican officials.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; ccw; eliotengel; engel; guncontrol; idiotengel; rkba
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1 posted on 07/07/2009 6:30:13 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: BerniesFriend; blaveda; Bookwoman; FrdmLvr; HoosierHawk; JDoutrider; KoRn; MaryFromMichigan; ...
Ping
2 posted on 07/07/2009 6:31:36 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Firearms go to Mexico with the drug trade. Cocaine/meth smugglers bring the drugs up and firearms back down. Mexican drug dealers have even bragged in the past that they could pay Mexican customs $20 to get the stuff in and out.

In sum President Obama is not doing his job. He only needs to shut down the drug trade from Mexico by getting rougher. ...ain’t going to happen, because lefties want drugs decriminalized and addicts coddled.

And no, there hasn’t been any “war on drugs”—ever. If there were a war on drugs, the growers, processors, dealers and addicts would be dead.


3 posted on 07/07/2009 6:35:23 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Kaslin

I guess the authors didn’t do their research and figure out that the only weapons sent back for tracing were weapons they thought they “actually” could trace.....

(I’m looking for the link!) sheeesh


4 posted on 07/07/2009 6:38:41 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (veritas odium parit)
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To: familyop

Well, I think What Would Teddy Roosevelt Do?

True, in his time drug regulations were laxer. But Teddy would have sent the Marines to clean out the gun nest clear to the southern border of Mexico. Obama would mess his pants at the idea.


5 posted on 07/07/2009 6:38:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Think of the D Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: Kaslin
These turkeys will grasp any straw and twist it into a big expose to get all American weapons off of the market and out of civilian hands. If you see it on 60 minutes you can be sure that the fix is in.
The Mexican military is selling this stuff to the drug dealers and the Mexicans know it, and we know they know it. But no one is going to print it.
6 posted on 07/07/2009 6:42:36 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Kaslin
"uh gringo, down here we just call it a standoff"

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7 posted on 07/07/2009 6:45:14 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

Wait a sec... we can buy grenade launchers from our local gunstore and Wal Mart?!?!?!?!

Hell Yeah, wheres my credit card?!?!?!


8 posted on 07/07/2009 6:48:40 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s an interesting consideration. If today’s favored constituents weren’t such libertine globalists, he probably would. “Bully!” ;-)


9 posted on 07/07/2009 6:48:48 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Kaslin

“But the guns going to Mexico are legal American firearms, not war materiel. The news media have knowingly or incompetently lied to Americans in service of a political cause. For this they should be deeply ashamed.”
Since the news media has been told, they are not incompetently doing anything, they are intentionally lying to the American people. As such, they should be fired, and their FCC licenses should be revoked.


10 posted on 07/07/2009 6:54:37 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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To: Kaslin

Ping


11 posted on 07/07/2009 6:55:51 PM PDT by Danae (Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I was gonna say, Why isn’t that stuff at Bi-Mart? I mean seriously, where’s mine?


12 posted on 07/07/2009 6:56:51 PM PDT by Danae (Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: Kaslin
"Truth?! We don't need no stinkin truth!"

Once again the Big Lie Technique rides - sounds better and fits the preconceptions of the MSM!

13 posted on 07/07/2009 7:08:39 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
"Hell Yeah, wheres my credit card?!?!?!"

Woohoo!! Lets go!!! I wanna get a belt fed grenade launcher with a pistol grip, silencer, and laser site! ;^p

(Some idiot at CNN reading this would probably think you can get such a thing)

14 posted on 07/07/2009 7:13:22 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Kaslin
Journalists don't always repeat these lies in bad faith.

Oh, but Josh Sugarmann does. He is a consummate liar and propagandist who is with the Violence Policy Center, an organization that knowingly and deliberately constructs anti-gun campaigns out of pure falsehood. The VPC is the very apotheosis of bad faith on the issue, inventors or proliferators of such touchstone neologisms as "gun show loophole," "assault weapon," "cop-killer bullet," and the less successful "pocket rocket," a term intended to demonize concealable 9mm pistols. As the article details, they deliberately spread the lie that Glocks and other non-metallic-frame firearms could not be picked up by airline X-rays. They are now attempting to construct a fiction of large-scale purchases of military ordnance in U.S. gun stores that are reponsible for the violence in otherwise pacific Mexico. They are particularly adept at constructing the sort of sensationalism that the media find irresistible. They know they're lying and to be honest, they have been very successful at it.

15 posted on 07/07/2009 7:35:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Kaslin

My local newspaper repeated the “95%” lie again the other day. Amazingly, a few days later, they printed a response letter calling them on this lie.


16 posted on 07/07/2009 7:36:16 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: familyop

Do you seriously believe mexican drug dealers are buying machine guns, grenades, and grenade launchers in US gun shops? Utter nonsense.


17 posted on 07/07/2009 7:37:58 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Billthedrill

Sugarmann’s not a “journalist”. He’s a Sara Brady butt-boy.


18 posted on 07/07/2009 7:39:17 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
"Do you seriously believe mexican drug dealers are buying machine guns, grenades, and grenade launchers in US gun shops? Utter nonsense."

Mexicans are buying mostly semi-autos from US drug dealers and addicts. US drug dealers and addicts who sell firearms to Mexicans should get the death penalty. Here's a repeat of my comment in full as contrasted with your misrepresentation of it.

Firearms go to Mexico with the drug trade. Cocaine/meth smugglers bring the drugs up and firearms back down. Mexican drug dealers have even bragged in the past that they could pay Mexican customs $20 to get the stuff in and out.

In sum President Obama is not doing his job. He only needs to shut down the drug trade from Mexico by getting rougher. ...ain’t going to happen, because lefties want drugs decriminalized and addicts coddled.

And no, there hasn’t been any “war on drugs”—ever. If there were a war on drugs, the growers, processors, dealers and addicts would be dead.


19 posted on 07/07/2009 9:36:54 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: Kaslin
"...Mexico's attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora, told Cooper: 'Two thousand two hundred grenades, missile and rocket launchers!'"

That's pretty funny, BTW. But that's the kind of lie that we expect from the drug-exporting government south of the border. They're in cahoots with the lowlife, leftist druggies north of the border. Drug pushers all outta have their huevos cut off.


20 posted on 07/07/2009 9:43:37 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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