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Federal Web Sites Hit Hard By Cyber Attacks
MSNBC ^ | Juy 7, 2009 | Lolita C. Baldor

Posted on 07/07/2009 7:30:10 PM PDT by John W

WASHINGTON - A widespread and unusually resilient computer attack that began July 4 knocked out the Web sites of several government agencies, including some that are responsible for fighting cyber crime, The Associated Press has learned.

The Treasury Department, Secret Service, Federal Trade Commission and Transportation Department Web sites were all down at varying points over the holiday weekend and into this week, according to officials inside and outside the government. Some of the sites were still experiencing problems Tuesday evening.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; cybersecurity; cyberterrorism; independenceday2009; nkorea; northkorea; tm
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1 posted on 07/07/2009 7:30:10 PM PDT by John W
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To: John W

Should be fun when your medical records are online.


2 posted on 07/07/2009 7:31:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: John W

Those wild and whacky Chinese. They will do anything for a laugh...


3 posted on 07/07/2009 7:32:17 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: John W

Have they heard of firewalls?


4 posted on 07/07/2009 7:32:24 PM PDT by sonofstrangelove (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

zero’s fault .... hell, he probably set the whole thing up.


5 posted on 07/07/2009 7:32:27 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

heeee, heeee


6 posted on 07/07/2009 7:33:18 PM PDT by doc1019 (Sarah in 2012, our only hope.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Should be fun when your medical records are online.
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Won’t it, tho? And the libtards were screaming and frothing at the mouth about the Patriot Act.


7 posted on 07/07/2009 7:33:44 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: ShadowAce

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8 posted on 07/07/2009 7:34:17 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: knarf

Koreans got hit too. CyberArmageddon oh noes!!!!1!


9 posted on 07/07/2009 7:34:26 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: devane617

10 posted on 07/07/2009 7:34:44 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

11 posted on 07/07/2009 7:35:08 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: John W

Damn. They should think about outsourcing to a reputable company that does IT Security. </shameless plug


12 posted on 07/07/2009 7:35:29 PM PDT by softengine (Betrayal and Hypocrisy play on both sides of the fence.......but no one will admit it.)
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To: devane617
I don't know, I think it was the krazy Kireans.
13 posted on 07/07/2009 7:35:42 PM PDT by TBall
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To: John W

I blame Ebaum’s.


14 posted on 07/07/2009 7:35:47 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: softengine

That makes way too much sense.


15 posted on 07/07/2009 7:38:29 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: devane617

Right on! You wouldn’t believe the resrtictions and levels of security on our computers at work, and the Chinese still tap in. We just expect it and know when they do it. I take my little laptop to work in case I have to do anything off of our restricted net.


16 posted on 07/07/2009 7:38:36 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Sprit of '76)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Firewalls aren’t worth much against DDoS attacks.


17 posted on 07/07/2009 7:39:00 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: knarf
Al Gore's fault really because he invented the internet.
18 posted on 07/07/2009 7:39:51 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: ArmyTeach

The BS has been going on forever, and NO one in our gov has the nads to point a finger and say stop or else we will make sure WalMart stops. Problem solved.


19 posted on 07/07/2009 7:40:22 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Ditto to what you said. The liberals’ “nightmares” about The Patriot Act have become reality under THEIR guy. I think the aCLU has gone on vacation. LOL! Or maybe their mission is accomplished.


20 posted on 07/07/2009 7:40:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: John W

Heads up!

http://twitter.com/BreakingNews

A large distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attack shut down 11 South Korean government website for hours, Yonhap reports. -- about 8:30 pm CST from BNO Headquarters

And from the MSNBC story above:

Web sites overwhelmed
Denial-of-service attacks against Web sites are not uncommon, and are usually caused when sites are deluged with Internet traffic so as to effectively take them offline. Mounting such an attack can be relatively easy using widely available hacking programs, and they can be made far more serious if hackers infect and use thousands of computers tied together into “botnets.”

For instance, last summer, in the weeks leading up to the war between Russia and Georgia, Georgian government and corporate Web sites began to see denial-of-service attacks. The Kremlin denied involvement, but a group of independent Western computer experts traced domain names and Web site registration data to conclude that the Russian security and military intelligence agencies were involved.

21 posted on 07/07/2009 7:41:19 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
several government agencies, including some that are responsible for fighting cyber crime

22 posted on 07/07/2009 7:55:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: John W

Not a cyber attack. Just too many people trying to watch Michael Jackson’s funeral on the web. Owwwhh!


23 posted on 07/07/2009 7:59:04 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Firewalls can’t stop these types.


24 posted on 07/07/2009 7:59:25 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


25 posted on 07/07/2009 8:00:39 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: John W

George Soros doubling dipping.


26 posted on 07/07/2009 8:04:59 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: matt1234

That would be A BINGO!


27 posted on 07/07/2009 8:08:58 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: John W

Another “crisis” that will require control over Americans, their internet use, and the net in general.


28 posted on 07/07/2009 8:13:39 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

I propose all internet servers be government owned.


29 posted on 07/07/2009 8:18:32 PM PDT by Sundog (I hope Michelle Obama isn't going to be punished with a baby.)
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To: hiredhand

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30 posted on 07/07/2009 8:19:03 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Sundog

And why not - they own almost everything now.


31 posted on 07/07/2009 8:21:00 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Won’t it, tho? And the libtards were screaming and frothing at the mouth about the Patriot Act.

Before that they were screaming about people seeing what library books they were checking out...

32 posted on 07/07/2009 8:22:57 PM PDT by GOPJ (Central park didn't hit 85 degrees in June this year - last time was 1916. Al Gore is nuts.)
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To: John W

OBAMA’S FAULT!!

He’s emboldened the cyberterrorists!! Heck, he probably gave them the codes they needed to hack into the gubmint programs for Pete’s sake!!


33 posted on 07/07/2009 8:24:41 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: John W

this registers as a 0.01 on my give-a-sh*t ometer anymore.

Anything our enemy can do to shut down our government probably helps us right now more than it hurts us.


34 posted on 07/07/2009 8:24:46 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: ArmyTeach
Right on! You wouldn’t believe the resrtictions and levels of security on our computers at work, and the Chinese still tap in. We just expect it and know when they do it.

You're in the army and you can't stop the Chinese? Please tell me I'm wrong.

35 posted on 07/07/2009 8:26:33 PM PDT by GOPJ (Central park didn't hit 85 degrees in June this year - last time was 1916. Al Gore is nuts.)
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To: John W

Just that 2 million more Americans are trying to get into unemployment government web sites. The great O underestimated the jam it would cause.


36 posted on 07/07/2009 8:29:02 PM PDT by LowOiL (Tagline: Optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Safrguns

Anything our enemy can do to shut down our government probably helps us right now more than it hurts us.


That’d be my new tagline if it’d only fit.


37 posted on 07/07/2009 8:29:04 PM PDT by txhurl (Put the pressure on and keep it on until this administration snaps.)
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To: John W

Yeah, their IT team was appointed by Hussein and Michelle.


38 posted on 07/07/2009 8:30:48 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Communism + Hezbollah + Al Qaeda + Obama + StoneAge = CHAOS)
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To: shield; rabscuttle385

Cisco has had DDoS mitigation appliances since at least 2004. Competitors have them, too. I couldn’t vouch for how effective they are, though.


39 posted on 07/07/2009 8:31:45 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: John W

Primary gateways and routers can be told not to route packets from specific countries (IP address ranges) effectively removing them from the Internet whether or not they are physically “connected”. I doubt it would take many service disconnections to encourage those countries that generate this crap from policing themselves.


40 posted on 07/07/2009 8:35:34 PM PDT by DB
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To: Sundog

“I propose all internet servers be government owned.”

I assume you meant to have a /sarcasm tag after that?

Now we have to deal with SPAM. If the feds take it over then the USPS can deliver email!!! It will cost 25 cents per recepient per message and 50 cents if its high priority! It will take 24 hours to get there and you will be limited 100 words!


41 posted on 07/07/2009 8:52:28 PM PDT by Syntyr (If its too loud your too old...)
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To: John W

“Resistance”?


42 posted on 07/07/2009 8:53:11 PM PDT by unkus
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To: GOPJ

No computer system is unhackable or immune to these types of attacks. And, if you think we’re not doing it to the Chinese, well....


43 posted on 07/07/2009 8:53:58 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: John W

I hope they didn’t hack any computers at the IRS! /s


44 posted on 07/07/2009 9:04:20 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: DB

Today’s DDoS attacks spoof IP address. Also Most routers only support ACL (Access Control Lists) or 100 lines or less. Most DDoS attacks generate IP Adress lists in the thousands.

However, if we were to cut off say China until they agreed to play nice I would be happy. I suspect that would po a lot of people around the world and I doubt we have the stomach for it.


45 posted on 07/07/2009 9:08:35 PM PDT by Syntyr (If its too loud your too old...)
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To: Syntyr

< Sarc>

Government could also preempt all private use of the internet from 11:59 pm to 6:00 am while they transmit unspecified data.

</ Sarc>


46 posted on 07/07/2009 9:18:01 PM PDT by Sundog (I hope Michelle Obama isn't going to be punished with a baby.)
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To: John W

Attempted fire-sale!


47 posted on 07/07/2009 9:25:42 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Sundog

And, and, and, they could require that the entire internet switch to digital so we all have to buy converter boxes!


48 posted on 07/07/2009 9:31:51 PM PDT by BagCamAddict ("Wolverines!!")
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To: John W

Ah, just shut down all computers and go back to the good days. I’d miss FR, but otherwise the world would be better.


49 posted on 07/07/2009 9:38:15 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Syntyr
I wasn't taking about botnets that require large lists of random IP addresses. Simply entire countries. I believe countries can be denied access by simply telling the root level routers to not route the traffic originating from the particular country in question. That would also end that country feeding their bots additional instructions.

But I agree, I doubt we have the stomach for it... But if we really were under serious attack from a specific country we could and should do it.

50 posted on 07/07/2009 9:41:44 PM PDT by DB
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