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1 posted on 07/08/2009 12:01:30 AM PDT by ckilmer
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I know there a lot of folks here who are no fans of kissinger. I’m not really one myself.

However, I thought he did a good job here of explaining the problem posed by the treaty of versailles.


2 posted on 07/08/2009 12:02:54 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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3 posted on 07/08/2009 12:08:11 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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It's interesting that the used a quote that, especially in it's truncated form, seems very flattering of Obama.

A quote more reflective of Kissenger's premise would have bee taken from this paragraph...

"If it were to be continued on the belief that every crisis can be managed by a philosophical speech, then he will run into Wilsonian problems."

People will just read the headline and assume that Kissinger is heaping fawning praise on Obama, he's not.

4 posted on 07/08/2009 12:09:08 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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"Obama is like a chess player..."

Yeah, like a pawn. But whose pawn?

5 posted on 07/08/2009 12:16:07 AM PDT by meyer ( "The world is a beautiful place and worth fighting for. But not without Freedom.")
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"I see two possibilities. We will either come to an understanding with Iran, or we will clash."

WOW! This is why he gets paid the big bux! ;)

11 posted on 07/08/2009 12:41:05 AM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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"Obama Is Like a Chess Player"

Obama-Putin, Russia, 2009: Final Position

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16 posted on 07/08/2009 1:09:03 AM PDT by decal ("Never allow a nervous female to have access to a pistol, no matter what you're wearing.")
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Obama is like a chess player... Now he's got to play his hand....

Henry is mixing up his metaphors.

18 posted on 07/08/2009 1:17:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I don’t remember, how does a teleprompter move?


20 posted on 07/08/2009 1:29:54 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajsov1M4h50"> Thank You Satan</a><P>Rev13:3)
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But I believe more suffering has been caused by prophets than by statesmen.

All suffering has been caused by criminals and the greatest amount is when they run, seize, control a state. Who caused the suffering, Henry? Identify them.

23 posted on 07/08/2009 2:16:12 AM PDT by PGalt
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And Kissinger is like a bad pizza. He keeps repeating.

I wish this overrated foreigner would just go the hell away and shut his damn mouth. I can’t stand him and didn;t like his weird boss either.


24 posted on 07/08/2009 2:27:13 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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Opions can sometimes be useful, but to a certain extent diplomacy is only one part of the necessary ingredients to peace.

There has to come a time when we determine that diplomacy has failed and decide what to do about it. If we say we’re only going to use diplomacy as a tool for peace, then we are destined for failure.

Putting someone else in place, another diplomat or another president to put a different spin on diplomacy is not going to change the outcome, but merely perpetuate failure. It is simply like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic, and why we have so many serious unresolved problems from many decades past.

If we have no interest in any war at all then we need to just keep to ourselves and build up our defenses so that if anyone wants to mess with us they will face destruction if diplomacy fails.


25 posted on 07/08/2009 2:58:25 AM PDT by dajeeps
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More a wood pusher than a grandmaster.


26 posted on 07/08/2009 3:02:47 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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Obama is like a Chess Player.

Yes: and in Chess there is a winner and a loser. Why did we get the loser?


27 posted on 07/08/2009 4:09:38 AM PDT by Venturer
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America is not now nor has it ever held a confrontational posture towards Islam.

Kissinger thinks this is all role playing and posturing.

As for Obama, it is now and will always be capitulation to America’s enemies, both at home and abroad.

He wants to see America weak and dependent. He does not have idealistic goals, his goals are to destroy the America we were and remake us into his image.


28 posted on 07/08/2009 4:11:28 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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29 posted on 07/08/2009 4:21:31 AM PDT by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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Notice how he never actually mentions Islam. He skirts it by saying more problems are caused by prophets, but still never seems to get to the unmentionable.

We can never have lasting peace in parts of the world because of a religion...not because of policies or governments.

30 posted on 07/08/2009 4:26:22 AM PDT by DainBramage
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kissinger is like a pile of dog crap... only he smells worse.

LLS

31 posted on 07/08/2009 4:34:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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Kissinger has always been about Kissinger. He disguises what he says with an array of verbiage (much like Greenspan) but he is either stating the obvious, mouthing useless platitudes, enhancing his role in some previous conflict, or positioning himself for a role in the next one.

This is the unaltering theme that has run throughout his career.

In the 1968 election he was playing both sides against the middle - acting as an “advisor” to both Nixon and Humphrey to make sure he had a seat at the table when the dust settled.

I wonder if the final historical verdict of watergate was a coup of Nixon by Kissinger.

I detest this man.


32 posted on 07/08/2009 4:34:59 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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Kissinger: The belief in democracy as a universal remedy regularly reappears in American foreign policy. Its most recent appearance came with the so-called neocons in the Bush administration. Actually, Obama is much closer to a realistic policy on this issue than Bush was.

.... so long as you define having a 'realistic policy' as embracing communist dictators and abandoning democracies.

Kissinger can kissinger my a&&.

36 posted on 07/08/2009 6:46:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Too sick for words!)
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Great thread/commentary. Thanks to all posters.


38 posted on 07/08/2009 9:10:37 AM PDT by PGalt
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