Skip to comments.Husseinís Gun May Go on Display at Bush Library
Posted on 07/08/2009 12:27:03 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
Many American presidents have kept prized possessions within reach during their White House years. Franklin D. Roosevelt cherished a 19th century ship model of the U.S.S. Constitution. One of Dwight D. Eisenhowers favorite gifts was an engraved Steuben glass bowl from his cabinet. And sitting on John F. Kennedys desk in the Oval Office was a paperweight made from a coconut shell he had carved with a distress message after his PT-109 was sunk during World War II.
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Obama has a gun?
When I read the title, my first thought was “Obama Has A Gun?”
Interesting that it was a Glock. I have seen several clips of him firing a pistol in the air and it was always a Browning Hi-Power.
Wow. That is rare. Most Glocks require the trigger to be pulled in order to fire bullets.
I'm pretty sure that Hussein was captured by 1st Artillery Division soldiers from Fort Hood, Texas. Not sure where this Delta Force business comes from.
It was illegal to bring back any war trophies at that time. I doubt Pres. Bush ‘owns’ it. It's probably part of the DoD inventory.
You mean the 1st Cav Division. Actually, it was a combined op with the 4th ID and SOCOM’s Task Force 121.
I guess I meant 4th Infantry Division, now that you mention it.
“This my rifle, this is my gun...”
Somehow I had it in my head that it was a 1911.
Glock 18s are cool though, he needs one of the 33 round magazines for that baby.
>>>> captured by 1st Artillery Division soldiers from Fort Hood, Texas. Not sure where this Delta Force business comes from. <<<<<
It’s pretty well documented that Saddam was captured by JSOC Task Force 121/145 out of Balad with regular Army in support.
Mark Bowden wrote an “excellent” article about TF121 for The Atlantic a couple years ago.
By the way there was a photo on the Internet some years ago showing Saddam being perp-walked through his palace and a crowd of 30+ JSOC guys. They were definitely not regular Army.
See my #14 above.
It could have been both. I recall a 'trophy' photo where several 'soldiers' had their faces edited out. That's usually an indication of CIA or a Special Forces Operator.
There was a task force that was created to act an intelligence clearing house that pretty much identified the farmsted on which Saddam was found.
“Interesting that it was a Glock. I have seen several clips of him firing a pistol in the air and it was always a Browning Hi-Power.”
The Hi-Power was probably used by his impersonators. Only the boss got to use the Glock. No sissy pistols for Saddam.
Obama has a gun?
Yeah, that was my first thought too. But then, that would make him a hypocrite and we all know how impossible THAT would be, huh!
The US army's 4th Infantry Division said Saddam was captured without incident in an underground hole near Tikrit. Two other people were also seized, as well as two AK-47 assault rifles, a pistol and $US750,000 ($A1.02 million) in US currency.Fox News - Saddam Hussein Captured Near Tikrit (12/14/2003)
US officials said Saddam was taken into custody at 8:26pm local time last night (0426 AEDT Sunday) after a raid on a compound in the town of Ad Dawr, just south of Tikrit in northern Iraq, by US troops backed by a secret squad of Saddam trackers.
"He was caught like a rat," said Maj. Gen. Ray Odierno (search) of the 4th Infantry Division at a separate press conference in Tikrit.
WASHINGTON Eight months and four days after the fall of Baghdad, it fell to soldiers of the 4th Infantry Division (search) and a secretive team of commandos to pry Saddam Hussein (search) from a hole in the ground far smaller than the craters made by U.S. bombs that missed him on the war's opening night.FoxNews: Military Releases Details of Saddam's Capture (12/15/2003)
ADWAR, Iraq When darkness fell, the Americans moved into position, 600 of them, from infantrymen to elite special forces. Their target: two houses in this rural village of orange, lemon and palm groves. Someone big was inside, they were told.
All the articles that I could find mentioned the 4th Infantry Division (if they identified any specific unit at all) and other forces, special forces, etc. (That explains why I remembered the Infantry Division from Fort Hood -- even though I was mixed up initially between 1st and 4th.) While I didn't find the specific reference in my search just now, I also distinctly remember a particular soldier as being identified as the soldier that actually found and captured Saddam in the spider hole. When Hussein identified himself, the soldier replied "President Bush sends his regards." I was pretty sure that soldier was a 4th ID soldier from Fort Hood.
Sadam was captured, that’s news to me, based on the news I hear the war was a failure.
Operation Red Dawn
December 13, 2004
Forces from the 4th Infantry Division, coalition forces and special operations forces captured former Iraqi dictator, Saddam Hussein, at approximately 8 p.m. local time December 13, 2003 in a remote farm house near Tikrit, Iraq.
Operation Red Dawn was launched after gaining actionable intelligence identifying two likely locations codenamed Objective Wolverine 1 and Wolverine 2, near the town of Ad Dwar. The First Brigade Combat team of the 4th ID, in addition to Special Forces from Task Force 121 were assigned the mission to capture or kill Saddam Hussein.
Operation Red Dawn
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Operation Red Dawn was the U.S. military operation conducted on 13 December 2003 in the town of ad-Dawr, Iraq, near Tikrit, that captured Iraq President Saddam Hussein, ending rumours of his death. The operation was named after the film Red Dawn, (1984) by Captain Geoffrey McMurray. The mission was assigned to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 4th Infantry Division, commanded by Col. James Hickey of the 4th Infantry Division, with joint operations Task Force 121 - an elite and covert joint special operations team.
And the best discussion is here:
Hunting Down Saddam
By Robin Moore