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Monkeys live longer on low-cal diet; would humans?
breitbart ^ | 7/9/09 | ap

Posted on 07/09/2009 10:22:46 AM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON (AP) - Eat less, live longer? It seems to work for monkeys: A 20-year study found cutting calories by almost a third slowed their aging and fended off death. This is not about a quick diet to shed a few pounds. Scientists have long known they could increase the lifespan of mice and more primitive creatures—worms, flies—with deep, long-term cuts in what should be normal consumption.

Now comes the first evidence that it delays the diseases of aging in primates, too—rhesus monkeys living at the Wisconsin National Primate Center. Researchers reported their study Friday in the journal Science.

What about those other primates, humans? Nobody knows yet if people in a world better known for pigging out could stand the deprivation long enough to make a difference, much less how it would affect our more complex bodies. Still, small attempts to tell are under way

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: live; longer; lowcal; monkeys

1 posted on 07/09/2009 10:22:46 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

This is not new news.
I read about this back in the 60s.


2 posted on 07/09/2009 10:25:22 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Nachum

Lomg since proved “yes” many times over.


3 posted on 07/09/2009 10:25:46 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: xcamel

er.. long, even.


4 posted on 07/09/2009 10:26:11 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Nachum
Monkeys live longer on low-cal diet; would humans?

This has been establish for many species from humans down to fleas. I will try to find a link to some of the old research.

5 posted on 07/09/2009 10:26:28 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama: "Enough about me, let's talk about you...what do you think of me?")
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To: Nachum

I believe humans would live longer, but they would start flinging sh1t at monkeys who are watching them.


6 posted on 07/09/2009 10:30:57 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: Nachum
Why are you telling me that I should do as a monkey?? I don't like ants, swing from trees or beat my chest. I've also worked from age 12 up to the present (not counting the early home chore years).

Everytime I see a monkey, he's walking aimlessly or chomping on something. Tell him to get a job and maybe he won't live so long!!

What I have never seen is a monkey doing "heavy work"....In fact, I don't see much of it in the animal kingdom.

7 posted on 07/09/2009 10:34:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
What I have never seen is a monkey doing "heavy work"....In fact, I don't see much of it in the animal kingdom.

Or on the welfare rolls.
8 posted on 07/09/2009 10:36:46 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: Nachum

This has been proven to be true as well as these side effects:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2005-10-23-bare-minimum-diet_x.htm

1.) Low libido
2.) Crankyness
3.) No “reserves” if faced with a serious illness

The fact is that you are going to die of something. Walking around hungry everyday isn’t my idea of a fufilled life if it only buys me a couple years. I’m on a 1500 calorie diet now in an attempt to shed 15 final lbs after losing 50. Believe me, it sucks being hungry all the time.


9 posted on 07/09/2009 10:39:02 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: MikeWUSAF
Indeed. In an experiments with the anti-geriatric effects of low calorie diets in rats, they also noticed that they got even OLDER if you turned the temperature down to near freezing.

A nearly frozen half starved rat may live a lot longer.

But I'd rather be a well fed warm rat and live a shorter life.

10 posted on 07/09/2009 10:43:32 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Nachum
The answer is probably yes, and this has been known for decades. We haven't really had any long term studies on humans that have actually looked at eventual mortality rate, but all the markers point to significant life extension.

There are many downsides though, as given in previous posts. I do think there is probably a happy medium, where people can live long, productive, happy lives, while consuming significantly less calories than most people do today (ie, we are a FAT society).

11 posted on 07/09/2009 10:46:03 AM PDT by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: MikeWUSAF
I’m on a 1500 calorie diet now in an attempt to shed 15 final lbs after losing 50. Believe me, it sucks being hungry all the time.

I have experience the hunger thing too. Once you are at your desired level, that works itself out. It just takes time to get used to it.

12 posted on 07/09/2009 10:46:21 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: allmendream
But I'd rather be a well fed warm rat and live a shorter life.

I chose to be a little hungrier and live longer.

13 posted on 07/09/2009 10:47:25 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: bill1952
This is not new news. I read about this back in the 60s.

Bill, you beat me to it.
14 posted on 07/09/2009 10:47:32 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Nachum
I prefer to maintain a healthy body weight and have a high libido, a good mood, a caloric reserve; and live a long happy and productive life.
15 posted on 07/09/2009 10:48:58 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Nachum

dealing with the coming buraucratic army of Federal Health Care Nazis will be bad enough without having them force-feed me bananas...


16 posted on 07/09/2009 10:51:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bill1952
This is not new news. I read about this back in the 60s.

What's new is that these days we're likely to have the President appoint a "Calorie Czar" to ensure that the citizenry doesn't exceed the recommended allotment.

17 posted on 07/09/2009 10:51:22 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Nachum

FWIW, I have several Shoa survivors in my family that never really gained weight back, and are now quite old.

Their “luckier” brothers and sisters who escaped a bit earlier are mostly dead.


18 posted on 07/09/2009 10:51:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Nachum

Ah, a health related thread. This is going to be a long thread. Add in some recipes, pets, and bikini photos, and it would go on forever.


19 posted on 07/09/2009 10:52:00 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: allmendream
I prefer to maintain a healthy body weight and have a high libido, a good mood, a caloric reserve; and live a long happy and productive life.

I agree. But what if that caloric reserve gives you high cholesterol and high blood pressure? I know men who thoought that way who just now recovering from their last bypass.

20 posted on 07/09/2009 10:52:26 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Sig Sauer P220
Might as well fling it now.
21 posted on 07/09/2009 10:52:54 AM PDT by naturalized
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To: Jewbacca
FWIW, I have several Shoa survivors in my family that never really gained weight back, and are now quite old.

Wow.

22 posted on 07/09/2009 10:53:33 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
A healthy body weight doesn't lead to increased risk of heart disease.

The emaciated have health problems of their own to worry about.

The overweight have a host of health problems including cancer and heart disease.

People with a healthy body weight are somewhere in the middle between these extremes and that is (statistically speaking when assessing risk) the correct place to be.

23 posted on 07/09/2009 10:58:01 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: allmendream

Ah, but that’s the thing. A healthy body weight is different for everybody.


24 posted on 07/09/2009 11:03:34 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Sorry, I don't discuss diet with diet proselytizers.
25 posted on 07/09/2009 11:04:55 AM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: Nachum

There was actually a study of US Soliders that lived through the equivalent (or worse, in some cases) of the Shoa -— the Battan Death March and related acts by the Japanese.

They lived (and live) to be quite old compared to their peers.

The issue though is it’s impossible to “correct” for people who are just so tough (or whatever) they live through such dramatic events and calorie reduction.

These same family members were just tough people, and you have a correlation vs. causation issue.


26 posted on 07/09/2009 11:09:52 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Nachum

Anyone else getting hungry?


27 posted on 07/09/2009 12:23:48 PM PDT by JTHomes
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