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New details on Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda comes from detainees own mouths...
Regime of Terror ^ | 7-9-09 | Mark E

Posted on 07/09/2009 2:50:38 PM PDT by ikez78

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During a series of email and telephone exchanges Matthew Degn relayed to www.regimeofterror.com his vast array of experiences working with intelligence issues relating to the current and former situation in Iraq. Among his responsibilities during his years in Iraq Degn worked as a civilian interrogator attached to the U.S. Army in Iraq before working as a Senior Policy/Intelligence Adviser to Deputy General Kamal and other top intelligence officials with the Iraq's Ministry of Interior. Degn, currently working on a book about his experiences in Iraq (personal website here), continues to argue against those that feel there was no link between terrorism and Saddam Hussein's regime based on his involvement with hundreds of interrogations in Iraq and his involvement with many of the Iraqi Intelligence officials with the Ministry of Interior. Degn says that much of the public perception about Saddam Hussein's regime and terrorism are incorrect.

Degn is currently the Director of the Intelligence Studies Program and a professor at American Military University currently a professor at American Military University whose testimony about events in Iraq has been cited by NPR, ABC News, the Washington Post and elsewhere. According to his American Military University bio Degn (pronounced Dayne) also:

(Excerpt) Read more at regimeofterror.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; hussein; iraq; iraqalqaeda; islam; jihad; saddam; saddamhussein; wot

1 posted on 07/09/2009 2:50:40 PM PDT by ikez78
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To: Torie; Rameumptom; mnehrling; SJackson; weegee; texanyankee; 1035rep; roses of sharon; ...

PING on Saddam-al Qaeda links


2 posted on 07/09/2009 2:52:23 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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To: ikez78

Thanks. Bookmark for later reading.


3 posted on 07/09/2009 3:03:23 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: LucyT; autumnraine; The Sons of Liberty; Shady Ray; editor-surveyor; TexasRepublic; ScottinVA; ...
Another you won't want to miss ... PING))))))
4 posted on 07/09/2009 3:24:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: ikez78

There really seems to be nothing “new” here,or much beyond what was in the Army’s institute report: something on the order of “parallel play”, with Iraq footing the bill for terrorist activities.

Some of the translated documents I looked at seemed to indicate funds were being “disguised” as appropriations for “approved” projects : the giveaway being grotesque over-funding.


5 posted on 07/09/2009 3:25:11 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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Thanks MHGinTN.

New details on Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda comes from detainees own mouths.

6 posted on 07/09/2009 3:28:19 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: ikez78
Excellent article Mark.

I was browsing today "al falojah" terrorist forum, the largest terrorist forum on the internet and they published a document by an Al Qaeda terrorist detailing his travel from Saudi Arabia to Iraq before the war to fight against our US troops. He said that he joined the camp of "Arab Moujahdeen" which was the group of islamic non Iraqi terrorists set by Saddam regime before the war to fight our US troops.

This Saudi terrorist story matches some Saddam regime captured documents where they set up terrorist training camps for what they called "Arab Moujahdeen" to fight our US troops. The translations of these documents were published on Free Republic.

7 posted on 07/09/2009 3:31:04 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: ikez78

Two words — Salman Pak.


8 posted on 07/09/2009 3:31:43 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: MHGinTN

This is why they have to release those guys quickly! - We can’t have any more affirmation of US intelligence floating around.


9 posted on 07/09/2009 3:32:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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“When pressed for specifics Degn said that Hussein's regime, like many other Middle Eastern groups, used the “Hawala” system to secretly move money to al Qaeda and made it nearly impossible to “prove” in a legal system that the transfers took place. The “Hawala” system uses multiple layers of middle men couriers to transfer money and leaves no paper trail, making tracing such transactions virtually impossible.” It is this difficulty which the democrat party and their fifth column enemedia chose to exploit, to claim there was no connection, knowing many of the connection would be very tenuous in nature but solid nonetheless. The democrat party leadership are not just unpatriotic, they behaved as enemies of this nation as a means to exploit the war on terrorism and empower their party as ‘the loyal opposition’ ... when they were a lot of things despicable, but loyal they were not!
10 posted on 07/09/2009 3:34:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: mrmeangenes

You leftists are predictable ... *****s like you are bound to try and diminish the truth wherever it exposes your democrat, enemy of America, criminal enterprise. It is not surprising that you and a few other agitprops at FR will try to quash the airing of something which must not be allowed to be forgotten. Spittle some more for us, leftist retread. Tell us how this has been seen before and ignored. Lie to US in the usual Democrat Party style.


11 posted on 07/09/2009 3:37:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: PhiKapMom

PING


12 posted on 07/09/2009 3:38:04 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the ping. Can’t wait to read it all later with my evening coffee.


13 posted on 07/09/2009 3:47:04 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: MHGinTN

What the HELL are you talking about ???

I spent the better part of 2 years looking for a smoking gun,and swapping notes with others who were on the same search.

We found a lot of tantalizing stuff, but never found real proof.

Are you going to say YOU did ?

If so, put or shut up.


14 posted on 07/09/2009 3:48:59 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: ikez78

bookmark


15 posted on 07/09/2009 3:49:18 PM PDT by tentmaker
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To: mrmeangenes

Buzz off to your democrat controllers, n00bie retread troll. You have a history at FR. I’m sure there are dung heaps at DU which would suit you just fine, troll.


16 posted on 07/09/2009 3:57:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: mrmeangenes

the way money was transferred and the additional training camps is pretty new, also that detainees were actually admitting this is somewhat uncovered ground


17 posted on 07/09/2009 4:00:37 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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To: jveritas

thanks bud


18 posted on 07/09/2009 4:01:18 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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To: ikez78
The proof of OBL and Saddam/Son's relationship is the l990’s reports in the NYT and ABC News on those two hooking up and planning something. (and imploring Clinton to go in)

AND in Newsweak’s special 9/11 edition...an interview with a Dem Senator, Chairman of the Senate Intel committee, talking about the intell they had on Saddam's plans.

Of course, when it was convenient, the Dems/MSM played defense for Saddam, and suddenly decided GWB was the criminal.

19 posted on 07/09/2009 4:04:04 PM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: ikez78
Good read. Looks like you made connection with a person that shall continue to yield more evidence of Iraq's involvements with various terrorist groups over the years.
To think the Butcher of Baghdad would not weight all angles as to support for terrorist as not being true is rather ludicrous
20 posted on 07/09/2009 4:24:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: mrmeangenes

they are hard to find because there is a lot of disinfo and misinfo out there and some of it may have been put out there on purpose to muddy the waters. there are still plenty of legit reports about safehaven, training, etc. for former CIA director to say what he did in his chapter on the topic...


21 posted on 07/09/2009 4:27:15 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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To: MHGinTN

MGH, here’s something I posted on FR (via link) in August 2005.

http://mrmeangenesnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/chemical-plant-raid-photos-reveal.html#links

I see you are good at trash talking, but how about showing us what YOU’VE got ??


22 posted on 07/09/2009 4:29:27 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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To: mrmeangenes
Looked at your blog page, Gene. Not going to divert this thread into 'about you' or me. The issues must be kept before the American people so they do not fall back into the clintonesque complacency which allowed feckless leadership to result in the death of thousands of American citizens.

As noted above, Salman Pak was more than enough reason to blow up Iraq. Some of the detainees at Gitmo were sent through training at Salman Pak, by their own bragging admission. I still believe there is something, maybe a pay slip registry, somewhere that will have more than one of the 911 murderers having passed through Salman Pak. The Jet fuselage sitting there was a strong clue.

23 posted on 07/09/2009 4:53:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

which Gitmo detainees said they were at Salman Pak?


24 posted on 07/09/2009 5:00:29 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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To: Marine_Uncle

good points, thanks


25 posted on 07/09/2009 5:01:45 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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To: ikez78

IIRC, three of the ones shipped to Gitmo from the secret interrogation center in Poland.


26 posted on 07/09/2009 5:06:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Iranians?


27 posted on 07/09/2009 5:10:11 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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To: P-Marlowe; jveritas

Iraqi bin Laden ping


28 posted on 07/09/2009 5:22:32 PM PDT by xzins (Chaplain Says: Jesus befriends those who seek His help.)
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To: ikez78

I agree the article was interesting. You know the Army only translated a small percentage of the intelligence documents-although-to be fair-a lot of them were CYA paperwork, requisitions, etc.

The halawa system was covered a bit better: good way to move money without leaving a trail. I recall the Taliban used it a lot: Mullah Omar used to hand out wads of dollars or rupees from a chest he kept in his tent.


29 posted on 07/09/2009 5:26:42 PM PDT by mrmeangenes
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Most prominent Dummycrats took it as an article of faith that there was no connection between the Saddam regime and terror groups. Kerry and Obama ran in the last two presidential campaigns repeating this lie to support their foolish arguments against the war in Iraq.

In fact, there were ties to Iraq among the participants in the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, as reported in Jayna Davis' book, The Third Terrorist. (The title is deceiving, because there were a slew of Iraqis in the plot, in which McVeigh and Nichols (who had been to Iraq with the US military) were merely a small part.)

30 posted on 07/09/2009 5:36:05 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Beckwith
Two words — Salman Pak.

YES! As our troops moved towards Baghdad during the preliminary first push and more details came out about Salman Pak, I kept shouting (to the walls I guess), LOOK THERE! Investigate that! Look.over.there!

And I'm sure there were some good teams looking into that very closely. If we would just ever get to the TRUTH.

31 posted on 07/09/2009 6:43:04 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: ikez78
Great info.

Thanks much.

32 posted on 07/09/2009 7:11:56 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: MHGinTN

There’s plenty anecdotal evidence to prove prior Iraq/AQ involvement.

1. AQ could not possibly have moved into Iraq as quickly and effectively as it had if there were not an already well known system of safe houses, contacts, money caches, etc and so on in existence. AQ could not possibly have exploited those necessary infrastructure items required to establish itself as quickly as it had unless the leadership of AQ was well briefed prior to the movement. Briefs of this nature can only be conducted face to face.

2. Ansar al Islam was, for all practical purposes, an operational branch of AQ. Same funding sources, same training system based in Afghanistan, same transport networks. Ansar al Islam was protected by the Iraqi army prior to our invasion.


33 posted on 07/09/2009 7:14:46 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Folks have already forgotten that Saddam sent bio-chem weapons trainers into Afghanistan to Taliban/AQ training sites. You don’t know where to send, when without deep prior contacts.


34 posted on 07/09/2009 7:20:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

good point nor do you allow them to train in cbw in your country if you don’t know who they are and why they are doing it


35 posted on 07/09/2009 8:08:23 PM PDT by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com - Saddam Hussein and terrorism)
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Thanks justiceseeker93.


36 posted on 07/09/2009 8:58:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: MHGinTN

Whoops! Thanks MHGinTN.


37 posted on 07/09/2009 9:08:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ikez78

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 07/09/2009 9:19:31 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ikez78

Excuse me .. NOW there is a connection between Saddam and al Qaeda ..??

The lamestream media will never print a word of this.


39 posted on 07/09/2009 10:16:34 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: MHGinTN

Too many folk tend toward slumping into the lazy daze of anything that’s not covered 24/7 ad nauseum in the msm simply doesn’t exist.

Or, are too weak, stupid and pathetic to stand up to the long march propaganda campaigns of our own domestic enemy.

You know, like sniveling punks, on their knees, wanting to please.


40 posted on 07/10/2009 11:15:37 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: ikez78

“Bush lied” bump


41 posted on 07/10/2009 9:54:10 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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