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Let me tell you a (TRUE) tale of Patriotic Resistance.
From a real life situation | 7/9/2009 | Self

Posted on 07/09/2009 7:44:03 PM PDT by jongaltsr

Everyone wants to write their congressman (person) when they are displeased with the way things are going.

When that does not work (and it won't) many choose to demonstrate at their local city offices or state capital. Others take the time to actually travel to the seat of the real problem - Washington DC.

When that does not work (and it never does) what is left to do. Just do it all over again and again and again........

Let me tell you a tale of Bill Clinton, an ambassador buddy of his (that was one of his anti-Vietnam war buddies) who died while working (if you really call it work). What I know from experience is that there is 2-3 % actual work involved and their administrators do most of that. The rest is meeting, greeting, and of course - partying.

anyway - when this lowlife came back to the US his wish was to be buried in Arlington cemetery. Good ol boy Bill jumped at it and it was a done deal. Little did Bill realize that Veterans would be upset because of two things. (1) He was in no way, shape or form a veteran. (2) He was an antiwar hippy dippy.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, some vets got together and sent out emails that said "Bring a shovel and a gun" we are going to dig the bastard up and if we have to defend ourselves to do so, expect the worst and hope for the best.

This email I received at approximately 6PM one evening and I stayed online sending and receiving emails helping to plan and coordinate this action. I took some time to pack and clean my guns but most of the time I was contacting other vets and helping to coordinate the "visit" to Arlington cemetery.

We were to meet there at 8AM EST (as I recall). I was about to go pull out when the word came from the original guys that organized the (can I say - Trip to Washington?). The first to arrive would probably arrive and take command of the entrances to the cemetary. Those that came later would secure the plot of the "Bastard" in question. When we had full control we would then dig the "Bastard" up and at that time we would make the decision as what to do with it at that time.

We knew two things. (1)When the press got wind of what had happened we could better effect the proper disposal of said "Bastard" (2)We were also aware of the fact that we had over 10,000 committed Veterans who pledged their lives and fidelity to the cause. (About this fact there were two subsets of facts that we took into consideration - (1) if even 1/10th of those Vets actually showed up, there would still be over 1,000 and with that many armed "Veterans" that would most likely set off such an alarm that the American Citizens would be given cause to join us. (2)The accelerating emails and email responses were capable of bringing not thousands but million of Veterans and citizens to Arlington.

We were told to hold off for that evening and that by 8AM the next day we would be given more information. All we were told was that there were "circumstances" which were directly affecting this whole plot. Nothing specific was mentioned, but I think we also knew that the FBI, CIA and the US Military had to have been alerted and "concerned"!

When I got up early next morning and logged on I already got the news that "Bill's Friend" had been exhumed at about 3PM EST and shipped to California by 6PM EST.

We were thanked (collectively) by those that organized the whole action and we never heard from them again.

I often wondered what happened to them but if anything bad had of happened I'm sure the word would have gotten out and we would once again be reactivated.

It is obvious to everyone (anyway - everyone I personally knew) that the government (i.e. - Bill Clinton) and EVERYONE down line from him, were scared and quaking in their boots. They wanted it to pass quietly and it did.

We all noticed a change in policies by both the Clinton Administration and the Congress immediately thereafter.

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Folks. Time has passed and their memories have faded. They have forgotten about that day and have again turned against the citizens of this country "once again".

My question to you is this - Are you going to continue writing worthless letters to your congressman. Are you going to continue demonstrating at your local City, County, State and Federal Offices?

When are you going to do what is necessary?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arlington; cemetery; clinton; democrats; hippy; obama; shovel; socialism
Everyone wants to write their congressman (person) when they are displeased with the way things are going.

When that does not work (and it won't) many choose to demonstrate at their local city offices or state capital. Others take the time to actually travel to the seat of the real problem - Washington DC.

When that does not work (and it never does) what is left to do. Just do it all over again and again and again........

Let me tell you a tale of Bill Clinton, an ambassador buddy of his (that was one of his anti-Vietnam war buddies) who died while working (if you really call it work). What I know from experience is that there is 2-3 % actual work involved and their administrators do most of that. The rest is meeting, greeting, and of course - partying.

anyway - when this lowlife came back to the US his wish was to be buried in Arlington cemetery. Good ol boy Bill jumped at it and it was a done deal. Little did Bill realize that Veterans would be upset because of two things. (1) He was in no way, shape or form a veteran. (2) He was an antiwar hippy dippy.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, some vets got together and sent out emails that said "Bring a shovel and a gun" we are going to dig the bastard up and if we have to defend ourselves to do so, expect the worst and hope for the best.

This email I received at approximately 6PM one evening and I stayed online sending and receiving emails helping to plan and coordinate this action. I took some time to pack and clean my guns but most of the time I was contacting other vets and helping to coordinate the "visit" to Arlington cemetery.

We were to meet there at 8AM EST (as I recall). I was about to go pull out when the word came from the original guys that organized the (can I say - Trip to Washington?). The first to arrive would probably arrive and take command of the entrances to the cemetary. Those that came later would secure the plot of the "Bastard" in question. When we had full control we would then dig the "Bastard" up and at that time we would make the decision as what to do with it at that time.

We knew two things. (1)When the press got wind of what had happened we could better effect the proper disposal of said "Bastard" (2)We were also aware of the fact that we had over 10,000 committed Veterans who pledged their lives and fidelity to the cause. (About this fact there were two subsets of facts that we took into consideration - (1) if even 1/10th of those Vets actually showed up, there would still be over 1,000 and with that many armed "Veterans" that would most likely set off such an alarm that the American Citizens would be given cause to join us. (2)The accelerating emails and email responses were capable of bringing not thousands but million of Veterans and citizens to Arlington.

We were told to hold off for that evening and that by 8AM the next day we would be given more information. All we were told was that there were "circumstances" which were directly affecting this whole plot. Nothing specific was mentioned, but I think we also knew that the FBI, CIA and the US Military had to have been alerted and "concerned"!

When I got up early next morning and logged on I already got the news that "Bill's Friend" had been exhumed at about 3PM EST and shipped to California by 6PM EST.

We were thanked (collectively) by those that organized the whole action and we never heard from them again.

I often wondered what happened to them but if anything bad had of happened I'm sure the word would have gotten out and we would once again be reactivated.

It is obvious to everyone (anyway - everyone I personally knew) that the government (i.e. - Bill Clinton) and EVERYONE down line from him, were scared and quaking in their boots. They wanted it to pass quietly and it did.

We all noticed a change in policies by both the Clinton Administration and the Congress immediately thereafter.

----------------------------

Folks. Time has passed and their memories have faded. They have forgotten about that day and have again turned against the citizens of this country "once again".

My question to you is this - Are you going to continue writing worthless letters to your congressman. Are you going to continue demonstrating at your local City, County, State and Federal Offices?

When are you going to do what is necessary?

1 posted on 07/09/2009 7:44:03 PM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: jongaltsr
"When are you going to do what is necessary?"

That question has been on my mind for some years now and I believe there must be couragous, honorable, trustworthy leaders first, or should be. There can be a flashpoint where the populace rises in sheer anger without leadership; but to continue the cause, there must be men and women with the same character as our founding fathers and with the same vision ... and decency.

2 posted on 07/09/2009 7:54:37 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: jongaltsr; Momaw Nadon; Mrs. Ranger; Squantos; wafflehouse; pbmaltzman; WKUHilltopper; dusttoyou; ..

The folks that organized the Bring a gun and a shovel for a visit - I hope they’re still around because we may need them again.


3 posted on 07/09/2009 8:01:21 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: jongaltsr

Shovel Ready may have more meaning than they thought.


4 posted on 07/09/2009 8:08:38 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: appleseed; Momaw Nadon; Mrs. Ranger; Squantos; wafflehouse; pbmaltzman; WKUHilltopper; dusttoyou
The folks that organized the Bring a gun and shovel for a visit - I hope they're still around because we may need them again.

We are still here. You may already know (or are) one of us.
5 posted on 07/09/2009 8:13:21 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Freddd
Shovel Ready may have more meaning than they thought.

So let it be said,
So let it be done.

6 posted on 07/09/2009 8:14:41 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: jongaltsr

I appreciate the service of ALL these people, and their readiness to stand against the injustice of the Clinton regime in the case mentioned. I am proud that they continue to stand ready to defend freedom and “do what is necessary.”

I must also respectfully suggest that the time for “guns and shovels” is nearing, and I fear it may be inevitable. Still, many are not ready to jettison all hope of returning the Federal Government to sanity via the ballot box. I would urge ALL patriotic Americans to remain alert, prepare for the worst — but work FOR a positive change in Washington DC through the ballot box in 2010!

No, I would agree that it is a long shot, that there isn’t “much” hope — but let’s exhaust every peaceful possibility before we consider any other alternatives. And, it remains quite possible that some “emergency” or “crisis” will emerge to “pre-empt” those elections — in which case, all bets are off and we will be left no other alternatives....


7 posted on 07/09/2009 8:23:37 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: jongaltsr

Shovel Ready

I like that in its new context


8 posted on 07/09/2009 8:26:43 PM PDT by Honcho Bongs (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. - Churchill)
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To: appleseed

Many more ......


9 posted on 07/09/2009 8:26:52 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: jongaltsr

Make SURE you add me to the list of those you call and email when you’re ready!


10 posted on 07/09/2009 8:26:53 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: patriot preacher

I say at the 2010 and 2012 elections we need a Rolling Thunder deployed wherever there is a Black Panther prowling the entrance to a polling place.


11 posted on 07/09/2009 8:27:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Think of the D Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: jongaltsr
America carried out a REAL "Tea Party" - they raided ships carrying tea and dumped the cargo into the harbor. They didn't just stand around holding protest signs on the lawn of a government building while the politicians they were hoping to influence were away on vacation or out for recess...

And it didn't stop there - Patriots like Patrick Henry stood up boldly. His speech is below:

No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope that it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen, if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve.

This is no time for ceremony. The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty towards the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?

For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth -- to know the worst and to provide for it. I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House?

Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with these warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation -- the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motives for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies?

No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer on the subject? Nothing.

We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer.

Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament.

Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope.

If we wish to be free -- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending -- if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak -- unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.

The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable -- and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come!

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!

Patrick Henry - March 23, 1775

12 posted on 07/09/2009 8:39:41 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: appleseed
The folks that organized the Bring a gun and a shovel for a visit - I hope they’re still around because we may need them again.

agree.
13 posted on 07/09/2009 8:58:34 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: null and void

interest ping


14 posted on 07/09/2009 9:00:33 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Navy blue)
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To: jongaltsr

bump


15 posted on 07/09/2009 9:02:21 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: Freddd; Darksheare
Shovel Ready may have more meaning than they thought.

Could be.

Or as another FReeper says in his tagline: Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful...

16 posted on 07/09/2009 9:13:13 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 170 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: jongaltsr

17 posted on 07/09/2009 9:20:05 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If you cannot be a good example you can serve as horrible warning - like Obama.)
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To: jongaltsr
line
18 posted on 07/09/2009 9:25:09 PM PDT by odin2008 (Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
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To: dcwusmc

You are already added.


19 posted on 07/10/2009 3:37:27 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: jongaltsr; All

http://www.alarmandmuster.com/


20 posted on 07/10/2009 3:45:52 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: dcwusmc; jongaltsr

Me, too!


21 posted on 07/10/2009 3:51:19 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (So close to Postal)
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To: odin2008

When will the line be crossed?

Looks like it may be VERY soon!


22 posted on 07/10/2009 3:57:59 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Ping.


23 posted on 07/10/2009 5:41:43 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: jongaltsr

Wow...this really happened?


24 posted on 07/10/2009 5:57:49 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: null and void; Freddd

From the People’s Democratic Worker’s Socialist Paradise of Nueva York I say: Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.

And with the clown fest that is Albany New York, I doubt they’d notice extra feathers and tar.


25 posted on 07/10/2009 6:01:07 AM PDT by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: EverOnward

there must be men and women with the same character as our founding fathers and with the same vision ... and decency.””

Those leaders are out there, they are called staunch conservatives. A corrupt and sneering press corp will do all in their power to keep them from rising to leadership positions.


26 posted on 07/10/2009 6:50:32 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: jongaltsr

I have already decided that when the time comes, and it will, that the government tries to force me into their health “care” policy I will be making the news.

I will not sign up.
I will not pay the fines.
I will not voluntarily surrender to the eventual warrants.
I will defend my physical being with all the requried force.

No government will have control of my physical being, and my spiritual being will defend it rigorusly (sp?).


27 posted on 07/10/2009 7:13:47 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: jongaltsr

This splendid tale of resistance involved a firm objective, then somebody took the lead and action was taken. That’s a winning combination!

In our current national crisis, however, we are lacking both an objective and leadership, or we’d be in the trenches right this minute.

Our forefathers dumped real tea into a real harbor to protest a real tax. We need something real to focus on, not just words.

Anybody got any ideas?


28 posted on 07/10/2009 8:27:19 AM PDT by DNME (Have a "Plan B" in place, then a "Plan C" too.)
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To: DNME
We need something real to focus on, not just words.

0bama will provide.

29 posted on 07/10/2009 9:17:59 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 171 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: CholeraJoe; dcwusmc; jongaltsr; A Navy Vet; Jim Robinson
dcwusmc, thanks for the ping.

Add me to the list.

FREEDOM!


30 posted on 07/10/2009 10:53:13 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
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To: patriot preacher

Oh, the 2010 elections will happen,
but it remains to be seen if they’ll be a sham.

Saddam had elections, as has Hugo.

2010 will be a good indicator about whether the
ballot box of freedom is still viable,

or if it’s time to move on to the next and final box.


31 posted on 07/10/2009 10:58:46 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: TheBattman

The real Tea Party
cost the government money
enraged the King
and was done with impunity.

Gotta get more creative, folks.


32 posted on 07/10/2009 10:59:56 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Wow...this really happened?

YES.

It was the day that never happened.
Because it never happened you never heard about it.

I still think of how history would have changed if it did happen - even if it was to total fiasco, but fiasco's only happen to the "Faint of Heart" not to those who Risk all that they have for something Good and Noble.

We took a step into the void and then stepped back when things worked out as they did. It is truly a strange thing to have been involved with.

It is as if we stepped into another dimension, reality changed (for the better) and then we stepped back into our "old" reality (and nobody was the wiser.

33 posted on 07/10/2009 1:29:12 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: MrB

Oh, the 2010 elections will happen,
but it remains to be seen if they’ll be a sham.

Saddam had elections, as has Hugo.

2010 will be a good indicator about whether the
ballot box of freedom is still viable,

or if it’s time to move on to the next and final box.


I agree with you in principle — let’s see how things develop. Your “final box” is not one most can even conceive, and not one that sane people wish to leap into on a whim.


34 posted on 07/10/2009 8:35:06 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: A Navy Vet

P I N G


35 posted on 07/12/2009 11:27:28 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER (NRA member))
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To: patriot preacher

“Your “final box” is not one most can even conceive, and not one that sane people wish to leap into on a whim. “

You’re correct, of course, but the downside to that is that some folks (hopefully a TINY minority) will continue to dither until it’s too late for the opening of that last box to do any good. Timing is the key... and I am not 100% sure we HAVE as long as another 18 months. I HOPE we do, for I do NOT want to be the one to open the ammo box if it’s not completely necessary!


36 posted on 07/13/2009 1:09:48 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

You’re correct, of course, but the downside to that is that some folks (hopefully a TINY minority) will continue to dither until it’s too late for the opening of that last box to do any good. Timing is the key... and I am not 100% sure we HAVE as long as another 18 months. I HOPE we do, for I do NOT want to be the one to open the ammo box if it’s not completely necessary!
__________________________

Agreed! I’m not sure we really have 18 months either. I am quite certain that, barring a miracle, if there is not a dramatic change in Congress in 2010, and in light of the Census, which will undoubtedly make it all but impossible for Conservatives (even Republicans) to win an election in 2012, we’ll cross the point of no return... Exactly WHAT that means, I have no clue — nor does anyone else. But, timing is the key, as you say. I have NO plan to “lock and load” first — but I don’t want to wait til they are dragging “troublemakers” out of their homes either... Know what I mean?


37 posted on 07/13/2009 8:27:59 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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