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Kirk Opts Out of Senate Race (RINO drops out in IL)
WaPo ^ | July 10, 2009 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 07/10/2009 1:38:47 PM PDT by heiss

Update, 4:17 p.m.: Although Kirk has already told several national Republicans today that he will not run for the Senate, there is an ongoing effort now to convince him to re-think that decision, according to several sources close to the discussions. Pressure is now being brought to bear on Andy McKenna, who, according to knowledgeable sources, had told Republicans insiders that he would not run if Kirk got into the race. Once Kirk signaled he was indeed running, however, McKenna reconsidered and made clear he would in fact stay in.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: burris; gopprimary; il2010; ilgop; illinois; markkirk; senate
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Kirk voted for Global Warming bill..total RINO.

Not sure if the McKenna is any better, though. Illinois Senate race is winnable as Dems don't have strong contender either..Blacks may be pissed off since Burris was forced to retire and whitey may get the seat.

GOP must find a strong candidate.

1 posted on 07/10/2009 1:38:47 PM PDT by heiss
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To: heiss

Don’t let the door hit ya.


2 posted on 07/10/2009 1:40:17 PM PDT by exist
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To: heiss
Although Kirk has already told several national Republicans today that he will not run for the Senate, there is an ongoing effort now to convince him to re-think that decision

By who, Arlen Specter? How RINO do you have to be to support Kirk?

3 posted on 07/10/2009 1:40:57 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: heiss
I always wanted to see Captain Kirk go on to do other things....
4 posted on 07/10/2009 1:41:19 PM PDT by jakerobins ( NO)
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To: heiss

You would need to drink a shitload of Romulan Ale for this Kirk to look attractive.


5 posted on 07/10/2009 1:41:35 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: heiss

“there is an ongoing effort now to convince him to re-think that decision...”

WHY? Are we afraid we will lose our huge majority? Let’s just focus on being the loyal opposition, making our case to the public, stuff these liberal bastards at every chance and be conservatives again. Please! It has worked for us every time we do it...then we try to be all things to all people and we are back in the crapper.


6 posted on 07/10/2009 1:41:56 PM PDT by jessduntno (NEVER say Cap and Trade Bill. It's the Electricity, Heating Oil and Gasoline Tax Bill....)
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To: heiss

If Kirk isn’t going to run, there must be a reason. Supremely arrogant, self-absorbed political hacks don’t give up on higher office just for the heck of it.


7 posted on 07/10/2009 1:42:36 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Oldpuppymax
the reason is here..from the article: "It also followed a meeting of the Illinois Republican congressional delegation on Thursday in which his colleagues refused to back Kirk in a primary against Illinois Republican Party Chairman Andy McKenna due, in large part, to his vote in favor of President Barack Obama’s climate change bill." would have been tough to win the primary after GW vote..
8 posted on 07/10/2009 1:47:13 PM PDT by heiss
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To: heiss
Kirk's decision...followed a meeting of the Illinois Republican congressional delegation on Thursday in which his colleagues refused to back Kirk in a primary against Illinois Republican Party Chairman Andy McKenna due, in large part, to his vote in favor of President Barack Obama's climate change bill.

And this is shocking to Kirk & Co? did they not listen to John Boehner on the floor of the house? Did Kirk not realize how critically important this bill was the vote against?

9 posted on 07/10/2009 1:47:22 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: heiss; All

Any chance Chris Lauzen would run? Or Dan Rutherford?


10 posted on 07/10/2009 1:48:45 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: FreepShop1

It’s a close one, but I’d take Kirk over Specter, Snowe, Collins.


11 posted on 07/10/2009 1:49:30 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Oldpuppymax

Oh heck, Kirk (my former congressman) is struggling to hang on to his congressional seat.

I didn’t know any Republican in my district who voted for him other than he was a “Republican” vote in Congress. But he’s lost that too.

And, I don’t think it can get past anything the Daley machine and Obama set up.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 1:50:52 PM PDT by freeagle
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To: heiss

Finally someone in Illinois showing some resemblance of intelligence by sending this boy packing...


13 posted on 07/10/2009 1:50:59 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: heiss
Kirk voted for Global Warming bill..total RINO.

Dead in the water. What a p.o.s.

14 posted on 07/10/2009 1:52:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: heiss
Seven of Nine Pictures, Images and Photos

After the debacle with Jack Ryan's Senate campaign, it's best just not to have any candidate that can be even remotely linked to Star Trek...

15 posted on 07/10/2009 1:52:33 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Oldpuppymax
If Kirk isn’t going to run, there must be a reason. Supremely arrogant, self-absorbed political hacks don’t give up on higher office just for the heck of it.

Hopefully, somebody has some good dirt on him.

16 posted on 07/10/2009 1:54:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Snickering Hound

17 posted on 07/10/2009 1:56:15 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: heiss

Illinois is super liberal. Republicans have little chance of winning any state wide elected office there. Illinois = Obama.


18 posted on 07/10/2009 1:57:23 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Snickering Hound
Better one:


19 posted on 07/10/2009 1:59:13 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: heiss

Too bad. After Specter switched parties the Maine sisters are looking for a new friend.


20 posted on 07/10/2009 2:09:32 PM PDT by byteback
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ping


21 posted on 07/10/2009 2:21:48 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: jveritas

What if Mike Ditka ran?


22 posted on 07/10/2009 2:36:38 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: heiss
Gawd, but he's so valuable. The National Republicans want him in the Senate.

Fire the RNC and all national Republican officials.

23 posted on 07/10/2009 2:41:26 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: All
SMART CHOICE!!!... Go get a real job now...

:)

24 posted on 07/10/2009 2:46:32 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war on family-values is *** DEAFENING ***)
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To: jakerobins

Does anyone have a picture of Andy McKenna?


25 posted on 07/10/2009 2:58:54 PM PDT by STD (Obamized Crime Inc.)
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To: heiss
Where are the Conservatives in the District? They should be looking for a Candidate. DO NOT TRUST THE IL Republicans or the National Republicans.
26 posted on 07/10/2009 3:06:21 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: BillyBoy; BlackElk; Dr. Sivana; chicagolady; Impy; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; ...

*ping*


27 posted on 07/10/2009 3:19:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; heiss
The Washington Post “Kirk drops out” story has been denied by the Kirk camp and IL GOP insiders (like Gov. Edgar and Rep. Biggert, who are still endorsing Kirk). Apparently the confusion stems from the fact that fellow combiner IL GOP Chairman McKenna still wants to run, and the combine will only allow one of them to run. Either Kirk or McKenna would have to drop out and endorse the other one. They're “negotiating” it this weekend.

Posted in the last hour:

Kirk still running — with one big caveat
http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/0709/Kirk_still_running__with_one_big_caveat.html

The latest on Mark Kirk running for Senate: still in. What will McKenna do?
By
Lynn Sweet
on July 10, 2009 4:25 PM
There have been several reports Friday that Rep. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) was not going to run for the Senate. The latest I have from Kirk's operation is that Kirk is still contemplating a bid. The bump here is that GOP Illinois Party Chief Andy McKenna—who had been recruiting Kirk to run—is now mulling a race himself. Kirk and McKenna met with members of the Illinois House delegation yesterday. The delegation is leaning heavily towards backing Kirk, one of their own.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2009/07/the_latest_on_mark_kirk_runnin.html

Washington Post Kirk Story WRONG
Illinois Review has learned from Republican Party sources that the Washington Post’s “Fix” story is NOT true. In fact, members of the Illinois Congressional Delegation have started to endorse Mark Kirk for U.S. Senate, including Rep. Judy Biggert and Governor Jim Edgar.
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2009/07/washington-post-story-not-true.html

28 posted on 07/10/2009 3:28:26 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: heiss
Kirk and McKenna are both MODERATE RINO's.

As a Conservative voter here in the People's DemoKratiK RepuliK of Illannoyed,it don't matter one iota which of them runs, neither will get my vote.

29 posted on 07/10/2009 3:30:48 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: BillyBoy

Here’s hoping both those slimy RINO Combiners form a circular firing squad.


30 posted on 07/10/2009 3:32:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Zot the RINOs.

31 posted on 07/10/2009 3:42:25 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: STD; spintreebob; fieldmarshaldj; chicagolady
>> Does anyone have a picture of Andy McKenna? <<

Our illustrious Illinois GOP party chairman:

I disagree with Bob that McKenna would be a weak Senate candidate. LaHood recruited him personally to "take out" Fitzgerald. McKenna fooled a lot of conservatives who backed him in 2004 for Senate and 2005 for Chairman. As a first time candidate he came in 4th place (in a field of 9 candidates), but came in 2nd downstate. Before McKenna was chairman, we kind of had a game of "musical chairs" with our state party chairman -- each of them (Williamson, Daniels, Ingemunson, MacDougal, Topinka, etc.) would last about a year on average, and be kicked out the moment Illinois Republicans lost some office on their watch. Under McKenna, we've probably lost more offices than the last four chairman combined, but he's completely consolidated his support with the GOP establishment and manages to have complete control of the party for five years now. No one has dared challenge him for the chairmanship.

If McKenna ran, he's portray himself as a conservative again (anti-bailout, anti-cap-and-trade) and all the conservative organizations in this state (NRA, Right-to-Life, etc.) would be on board. Plus he's from an extremely wealthy family and can spent zillions of his own money.

Of course if you meet the guy he makes Bob Dole seem exciting.

Between McKenna, Kirk, and Obama, Ray LaThug is going to have a hard time deciding which one he loves more. Poor guy.

My guess is Kirk formally kicks off his Senate campaign next week, and the state and national party clear the field to anoint McKenna as Kirk's successor in the House. McKombine would probably agree to those terms.

32 posted on 07/10/2009 3:44:20 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: darkangel82

yeah..on the other hand..which one you would take:
a) Burris or some other 100% liberal, who is guaranteed to vote for every liberal bill
b) 50% liberal RINO, who at least quite often votes against those liberal bills

i would take the 50% liberal RINO anyday vs 100% liberal. there are a lot of important things that RINO would support..

but i’m still fantasizing that a well-funded, serious conservative would emerge. though from the links here i see this is not likely to be the case.


33 posted on 07/10/2009 3:46:18 PM PDT by heiss
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To: darkangel82

Hey, it’s Nikola Tesla’s birthday, too.


34 posted on 07/10/2009 3:52:53 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: heiss
Kirk is not a "50% liberal", he's to the left of a lot of "moderate Democrats" in Illinois. It's very telling that the only "conservative" things his apologists can point to Kirk supporting was a no vote on porkulus (11 Dems also voted no) and a yes vote on tax cuts eight years ago (28 Dems also voted yes).

Kirk is, at best, a moderate Democrat. We could probably just keep Burris there and he'd do less damage. Kirk would have much more clout to make Obama's socialist agenda "bipartisan"

35 posted on 07/10/2009 4:04:39 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

I mean for heavens’ sake, Kirk is to the left of Chuck Percy, the former leftist RINO Senator. There were a number of Conservatives who voted for Paul Simon in ‘84 just to run that asshat out of office (much like how they did with Lieberman over Weicker in ‘88 in CT).


36 posted on 07/10/2009 4:39:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: usconservative
As a Conservative voter here in the People's DemoKratiK RepuliK of Illannoyed,it don't matter one iota which of them runs, neither will get my vote.

Thanks so much for your help.

37 posted on 07/10/2009 4:53:12 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That’s why I posted it. :)


38 posted on 07/10/2009 4:57:18 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I was a kid during the Percy era, but I looked up his voting record a couple years back and was shocked to discover he was voting to the LEFT of our RAT Senator from that time (Alan Dixon). Several Illinois freepers have told me that the RATs used to love having Percy in power because they could use his endorsement to portray any socialist scheme of theirs as having "bi-partisan support" in the Senate.

I honestly think that if Kirk gets in, we'll be wishing Burris was still there within a few months. Burris might be a socialist but at least he's low-key and has zero clout to enact anything.

39 posted on 07/10/2009 5:20:36 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Maine Mariner

Is he a Republican?


40 posted on 07/10/2009 5:38:22 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

I believe so. I think they wanted him to run the year Obama ran.


41 posted on 07/10/2009 6:11:54 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: BillyBoy; Impy; BlackElk; Clintonfatigued; darkangel82

You might recall Percy was one of those up n’comer types from the business sector in the ‘60s who really coveted the Presidency (very similar in style and ideology to Slick Willard). He actually, however, took a reverse course to the Slickster. The crooked Gov. Otto Kerner looked quite vulnerable for 1964, so Percy used his fortune to beat another up and comer, State Treasurer William Scott, in the GOP primary (Scott, of course, has enough of a story to tell separately). Percy got caught in the undertow of the anti-GOP landslide of that November (although Kerner won by an unimpressive 52-48%). He opted for the “consolation prize” of a Senate seat and beat the venerable old liberal Sen. Paul Douglas by a wide 11% margin on the anti-LBJ landslide of ‘66. Had Percy won the Governorship in ‘64, it’s quite conceivable he might’ve ended up as Nixon’s running mate in ‘68... and we know where that would’ve led.

Two years after Congressman Tom Corcoran failed to knock Percy off in the ‘84 GOP primary, I remember, was when I started to get more actively involved in politics (that in high school), and specifically became a Republican. I had been under the naive assumption that ALL Republicans were Reaganites and had no idea liberal scumbags equally infested the party as well, acting as termites to the Conservative cause. We still see some of that naivete on FR with the “any Republican is better than any Democrat” attitude, failing to take into consideration how some liberal Republicans can cause far worse damage. Kirk seems the epitome of that kind of destructive RINO who will relish inflicting damage to the Conservative agenda, especially after he gets the Senate seat, and is one reason why he should be just as vigorously opposed as we did with Percy back in ‘84.


42 posted on 07/10/2009 6:34:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

I don’t know what to think about it.

As for Andy McKenna, he’s a largely unknown quantity to me.


43 posted on 07/10/2009 8:10:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; usconservative
McKenna's a low-key guy that nobody outside of Illinois has probably noticed. He's basically a Ray LaHood sock-puppet, IMO. You can read his bio on the IL GOP website.

Speaking of Senator Percy, check out this tidbit from McKenna's bio:

McKenna earned a bachelor degree in business administration from the University of Notre Dame in 1979. During his senior year, two events occurred that stimulated his interest in politics and the economy In the fall of 1978, Senator Chuck Percy was in a tough re-election campaign. Late in the campaign McKenna's parents hosted an event for Percy at their home. Eight United States Senators attended the event. This gave McKenna the chance to speak with each and, in particular, to spend time visiting with Senator John Heinz of Pennsylvania. Heinz was the first MBA ever elected to the United States Senate. At the time, McKenna was applying to both law and graduate business schools. Heinz told him, "If you want to go into politics, go to MBA school".
http://www.weareillinois.org/learn/chairman.aspx

I think USConservative is right, both McKenna and Kirk owe their political career to the combine. McKenna's political positions aren't nearly as liberal as Kirk (McKenna actually ran as one of the conservative candidates in 2004), and even McKenna denounced Kirk Dillard for appearing in Obama campaign ads, so McKenna would be a step up from Kirk. However, there's no way in hell I'd vote for McKenna in the primary since he was LaHood's hand-picked choice to "take out" Fitzgerald, and was quite willing at the time to run against him. I might hold my nose for McKenna over a RAT in November, it came down to that.

44 posted on 07/10/2009 8:29:24 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Norman Bates

Here’s the laetst now:

http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2009/07/kirk_trying_to.php

It’s enough to give a political observer whiplash.


45 posted on 07/10/2009 8:31:08 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; usconservative
Also, I think the combine at least correctly realizes that Kirk would be much more likely to win a Senate race (though it has nothing to do with Kirk being more “moderate”, it has to do with the fact people won if McKenna has a pulse). IMO, McKenna would probably lose to a RAT. McKenna was the combine’s choice for that Senate seat last time around (2004), and probably figures they should clear the field for him this time around after he spent millions of his own money to promote their agenda six years ago.
46 posted on 07/10/2009 8:33:58 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: jveritas
Illinois is super liberal.

I would not go that far. Illinois has a very peculiar mix when it comes to the two parties. There is a very powerful country-club Republican establishment like Kirk, Topinka and the former Gov Thompson. However, many of the state democrats from blue collar and rural districts are socially conservative like Lipinski and Costello and former Sen Dixon.

However, its troubling that in the last 20 years the state went from being swing in Presidential races to a solid Blue.

47 posted on 07/10/2009 8:46:22 PM PDT by Fast Ed97
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To: Fast Ed97

Good points.


48 posted on 07/10/2009 8:50:56 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: heiss

Most of these losers usually say they want to “devote more time to the family.” This bum wants to devote more time to passing Cap and Trade.


49 posted on 07/11/2009 4:44:12 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"State Treasurer William Scott, in the GOP primary (Scott, of course, has enough of a story to tell separately). "


50 posted on 07/11/2009 9:58:12 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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