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Report: Bush program extended beyond wiretapping
Associated Press (Obama) ^ | July 10, 2009 | PAMELA HESS

Posted on 07/10/2009 4:18:28 PM PDT by presidio9

The Bush administration authorized secret surveillance activities that still have not been made public, according to a new government report that questions the legal basis for the unprecedented anti-terrorism program.

It's unclear how much valuable intelligence was yielded by the surveillance program started after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, according to the unclassified summary of reports by five inspectors general. The reports mandated by Congress last year were delivered to lawmakers Friday.

President George W. Bush authorized other secret intelligence activities — which have yet to become public — even as he was launching the massive warrentless wiretapping program, the summary said. It describes the entire program as the "President's Surveillance Program."

The report describes the program as unprecedented and raises questions about the legal grounding used for its creation. It also says the intelligence agencies' continued retention and use of the information collected under the program should be carefully monitored.

Many senior intelligence officials believe the program filled a gap in intelligence. Others, including FBI, CIA and National Counterterrorism Center analysts, said intelligence gathered by traditional means was often more specific and timely, according to the report.

The Bush White House acknowledged in 2005 that it allowed the National Security Agency to intercept international communications that passed through U.S. cables without court orders.

The inspectors general interviewed more than 200 government officials and private sector personnel, including former CIA and NSA Director Michael Hayden, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Five former Bush administration officials refused to be interviewed, including former CIA Director George Tenet and former Attorney General John Ashcroft.

The others: former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card; former top Cheney aide David Addington; and John Yoo,

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: andrewcard; ashcroft; bush43; bushlegacy; counterterrorism; davidaddington; fisa; johnyoo; surveillance; tenet

1 posted on 07/10/2009 4:18:28 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Obama is tanking in the polls, the stimulus is failing and they just caught him on camera leering at a 17 year old girl. Time for AP to do a little Bush bashing.


2 posted on 07/10/2009 4:24:22 PM PDT by Krankor ("Quit talking about the eight men, or there's gonna be nine.")
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To: presidio9

The difference is that under Bush, these surveillance programs were meant to PROTECT the American people from terrorists whose goal was to to cause death and destruction Under Obama, the surveillance programs will be used AGAINST the American people in order to suppress those who protest against his administration.


3 posted on 07/10/2009 4:26:22 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Krankor

“SIXTEEN year-old” girl is the way it was reported on Hannity’s radio show.


4 posted on 07/10/2009 4:26:55 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: presidio9

Ahhhh! The five Inspectors General.

That explains Gerald Walpin. Send a warning shot across the bow of IG’s and then a consensus, almost like global warming, of a secret surveillance program.

I really wonder what IG revelations are yet to come.


5 posted on 07/10/2009 4:27:17 PM PDT by plangent
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To: presidio9

Somehow I doubt that the importance of the information gleaned from the surveillance is unclear. Zero’s Admin and his willing accomplices in Big Media would NEVER give any credit of any kind to GWB. Disgusting.


6 posted on 07/10/2009 4:27:39 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Krankor
Obama is tanking in the polls, the stimulus is failing and they just caught him on camera leering at a 17 year old girl. Time for AP to do a little Bush bashing.

Bingo.

7 posted on 07/10/2009 4:28:18 PM PDT by mojito
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To: presidio9
How many guns do you have and where do you keep them. The ACORN census wants to know.

8 posted on 07/10/2009 4:28:26 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Krankor

Does anyone really doubt that this story was “suggested” to the AP by the White House?


9 posted on 07/10/2009 4:29:33 PM PDT by mojito
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To: presidio9

Congress is mad that they got recorded talking to overseas “operators”.


10 posted on 07/10/2009 4:29:44 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: presidio9

I read she just turned 17. But 16 or 17, how many times did ABC or any network “debunk” a slur about Bush.


11 posted on 07/10/2009 4:30:45 PM PDT by Krankor ("Quit talking about the eight men, or there's gonna be nine.")
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To: presidio9

The NSA has been spying on emails and phone conversations since Clinton. In my years as a lurker here in the late 90s, I read some good threads about it. I didn’t support it under Clinton, I didn’t support it under Bush, and I don’t support it now.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 4:30:47 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: presidio9
Just another ploy to keep us focused on the wrong items. Usually called a ‘smoke screen’.And Obama is blowing lots of smoke these days.
13 posted on 07/10/2009 4:31:36 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: presidio9

Hey, I’ve got a great idea.

To distract voters from the fact that OMOSLEM IS BANKRUPTING THE UNITED STATES, let’s hold show trials of CIA officials, and splash top-secret programs across the front page of newspapers.

While Omoslem funds Hamas with another $900 million donation of OUR MONEY.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 4:34:09 PM PDT by Islam=Murder (The United States - surrendering to Sharia without a peep.)
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To: presidio9
Obama, Al Gore, and their buds are selling this nation out as fast as they can...

...and now we're supposed to investigate Bush.  LMAO  This guy sure has a little teeny set of 'em doesn't he.


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15 posted on 07/10/2009 4:34:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: presidio9

Our domestic terrorists have deployed Operation Obama Political Life Raft.


17 posted on 07/10/2009 4:36:21 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Have you punished an 0bama supporter today?)
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To: presidio9

So the Democrats getting ready to expose more classified material in the New York Times, and then wonder why they aren’t trusted with classified material.


18 posted on 07/10/2009 4:36:22 PM PDT by marron
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To: Krankor

Just watched the video. Looked like the “Back, and to the left, back and to the left” skit from Seinfeld. I still think he was leering a minor’s ass.

Did you get your screen name from my favority episode of MST3K?


19 posted on 07/10/2009 4:36:48 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: presidio9

The ultra-liberal media in our country is going to be totally at fault when our country crashes. They continue to bash President Bush while the current occupant of the White House is turning our nation into a commie state.
If the media was doing an impartial job, Zero would never have been elected.
If zero was a republican doing what he’s doing, the media would have driven him out of office by now.


20 posted on 07/10/2009 4:37:11 PM PDT by taillightchaser (When a democrat says "The American people" you know the next words out of his mouth will be lies.)
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To: Krankor

The scurreying for cover sounds like a stampede.

Blame it on Bush is a dwindling asset.

So much to know; so little time.

Put every Democrat in Congress to the lie detector. Off the chart on every read.


21 posted on 07/10/2009 4:37:57 PM PDT by plangent
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To: presidio9

“the unprecedented anti-terrorism program”

Really? No precedent in Hoover’s FBI? Or Kennedy and Nixon’s justice departments? Or Wilson and FDR’s homefront war efforts?


22 posted on 07/10/2009 4:39:09 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: presidio9

Click on my name and then the picture.


23 posted on 07/10/2009 4:40:36 PM PDT by Krankor ("Quit talking about the eight men, or there's gonna be nine.")
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To: presidio9

The Obamacoms are still pissed that we were spying on their Islamofascist terrorist buddies.


24 posted on 07/10/2009 4:40:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: plangent
Blame it on Bush is a dwindling asset.

Ha! That's a great line... have to remember that one.

25 posted on 07/10/2009 4:41:46 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Krankor

“Crank-Whore?”


26 posted on 07/10/2009 4:41:48 PM PDT by presidio9 ("Don't shoot. Let 'em burn.")
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To: mysterio

This and Bushies fiscal irresponsibility is what doomed the repubs in ‘08.


27 posted on 07/10/2009 4:45:00 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: Krankor
Obama is tanking in the polls, the stimulus is failing and they just caught him on camera leering at a 17 year old girl. Time for AP to do a little Bush bashing.

Exactly! The AP shouldn't be so obvious...

28 posted on 07/10/2009 4:45:16 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (http://isportsdigest.tripod.com)
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To: presidio9
Tell the Government Czar every detail regarding your intimate medical concerns. Tell him what you eat and what you do. Urinate at his command. Account for every penny that comes in and every penny you spend. Obama wants to know. Give your credit card to a waiter. Undermine national security to spite Bush. Click every sucker link on the net.

It’s all arbitrary BS. Nothing matters. People running in random directions, wailing, gnashing, catching fire as everyone rides along with the planet from Hell as it spirals to its doom.


29 posted on 07/10/2009 4:48:59 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: mysterio
My Sister In Law worked in a large Gubmint Facility in Southern California. She accidentally walked into a room that had hundreds of digital recording machines made by Honeywell and Racal of Great Britain.

When she asked another Gubmint Employee about the machines, she was told that they recorded all overseas phone conversations. This was during the late Bush 41 or early Clinton Administrations.

I only know what she told me, but she did know what the machines looked like and she described them to my Wife who worked for Racal at the time.

This whole Bush taking away your privacy thing is bunk meant to rile up the Useful Idiots. And guess what, it worked like a charm.

Can't wait for my Medical History to be Digitized so the ObamaCare Acorn Workers can make life and death decisions for me.

30 posted on 07/10/2009 4:54:00 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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To: presidio9

Hey, that’s not very nice.


31 posted on 07/10/2009 4:56:52 PM PDT by Krankor ("Quit talking about the eight men, or there's gonna be nine.")
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To: Tublecane
Since FDR locked up the Japs, I guess the Libs wouldn't have minded if Bush locked up the Muzzies, right?

Oh that's right, it only mattered that Michelle Malkin agreed with FDR and Ann Coulter said we should invade the Muslim Countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.

32 posted on 07/10/2009 4:58:42 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Hitler used a TelePrompter, we would all be speaking German...)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

from over two and a half years ago:

Judge: NSA Not Required to Released Wiretapping Details
(Finally a judge with some sense)
Fox News | 11/20/2006 | AP
Posted on 11/20/2006 7:03:16 PM PST by tobyhill
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1741896/posts


33 posted on 07/10/2009 5:03:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Krankor

How about all of the BS when “W” was seen with the volleyball gals?
They were going crazy about that one.


34 posted on 07/10/2009 5:07:48 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (o)...Ayatollah of GlennBeckistan... keep it going brother...(o)
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To: Krankor

Some show trials of Bush Administration intelligence officials should work nicely....for a while. Then people will realize the only change is their standard of living disappearing.


35 posted on 07/10/2009 5:18:36 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: presidio9

I KNEW there was a reason I have felt violated for the past several years. And here I thought it was alien invaders who kidnapped me, and subjected me to a round of anal probes, the way they always do.
Now I know it was Bush’s secret surveillance....this kind of jive innuendo reportage is yet another classic expression of the Left accusing Bush of fulfilling the kind of programmatic prying that is their own heart’s desire. See, first they have to accuse Bush of doing it, so they can do it with impunity themselves, as a “corrective”, and out of motivations of nothing more than “self-defense”.


36 posted on 07/10/2009 5:25:07 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ( "I can't read any more of this. My shorts are too tight:"--Jeff Bridges, AMERICAN HEART)
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To: I see my hands

yep, the ACORN census ‘might want to know’ about firearms but that’s all it is for now, strictly a wish and they can just a wish all they want.


37 posted on 07/10/2009 5:40:18 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: taillightchaser

Asspress really has its fangs in this story. Ninny Nancy must have told them to write this garbage.


38 posted on 07/10/2009 5:44:13 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: presidio9
The portion of Yoo's memo that has them all nutted up is summarized in the Washington Post story (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2289870/posts) as follows:
In that memo, Yoo concluded that the FISA law could not "restrict the president's ability to engage in warrantless searches that protect the national security" and that "unless Congress made a clear statement in FISA that it sought to restrict presidential authority to conduct warrantless searches in the national security area -- which it has not-- then the statute must be construed to avoid such a reading," according to the report.
OK, let's see what the FISA Court of Appeals had to say on the subject of whether FISA could restrict the president's ability to engage in warrantless searches to protect national security:
The Truong court, as did all the other courts to have decided the issue, held that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information. ... We take for granted that the President does have that authority and, assuming that is so, FISA could not encroach on the President's constitutional power.
The president does have inherent constitutional authority under his Article II powers to conduct warrantless searches on matters of national security and this is at its zenith with regard to a foreign enemy that has already launched a mass casualty attack on civilians on US soil. FISA is a mere statute, and cannot constitutionally restrict the President's Constitutional authority. This is true no matter who is president.
39 posted on 07/10/2009 6:12:40 PM PDT by Buckhead
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