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The Massachusetts Health Mess
The Wall Street Journal ^ | July 11, 2009 | Unsigned editorial

Posted on 07/10/2009 5:11:31 PM PDT by BfloGuy

The Massachusetts law, which was championed by former GOP Governor Mitt Romney, imposed an individual mandate, requiring nearly all residents to buy health insurance or else pay a penalty. (The exceptions are those who qualify for the state's public program.) This was supposed to cover everybody and save money too. We've written before about how costs have exploded, but it also turns out that consumers have other ideas.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: healthcare; healthinsurance; massachusetts; mythromney; rino; romney; romneycare; romneytruthfile; socialismsucks; socializedmedicine; stenchofromney
I'll be interested to hear the opinions of FR Romney supporters on this. His health care program has left Massachusetts with a king-sized mess that should embarrass any conservative. And to those who will ask, "but then who else?", let me say that I have no idea.

But not him.

1 posted on 07/10/2009 5:11:32 PM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: BfloGuy

And Romney’s talking how great it is and wants to promote it nationally. The man’s worthless, his policies are worthless, and he’s no conservative. I’ll stay home before I vote for him.


2 posted on 07/10/2009 5:15:33 PM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: BfloGuy

My son lives in Massachusetts and has said that because of the health care program in his state, his daughter, who has developmental issues has to wait six months to see an eye doctor at Children’s Hospital. He blames the delay directly to the Mass. Health Care.


3 posted on 07/10/2009 5:23:39 PM PDT by mia
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To: BfloGuy

Mitt a liberal with liberal ideas, that don’t work.....who would have thunk it.


4 posted on 07/10/2009 5:24:42 PM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: BfloGuy

FR Romney supporters? Don’t you mean trolls?


5 posted on 07/10/2009 5:25:32 PM PDT by Third Person (0bama is a Little Lebowski Urban Achiever)
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To: Third Person
By trolls, do you mean those little hairy people who live under bridges or those people who post inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages.
6 posted on 07/10/2009 5:33:02 PM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: BfloGuy
Mitt Romney is the brightest, smartest and goshdarnedest most handsome Man the GOP has and is the only one who can beat Obama.

He saved the Olympics, the entire state of Utah, most of New England and all of Christmas in 1993.

His health care plan was great until the left messed it all up.

I know the folks in his home state of Utah Michigan Massachusetts California are proud to call him theirs and any one who cannot see that he has told us that he is the most conservative man in the running since Reagan is a fool.

(This is a test run of the MittBusters "Mittbot One" Mittbot simulator prototype, all feed back is welcome. THIS IS ONLY A TEST)

7 posted on 07/10/2009 5:39:49 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
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To: ejonesie22

Yeah, he doesn’t suck....sort of.


8 posted on 07/10/2009 5:42:14 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: BfloGuy

And meanwhile, from just yesterday:

Romney Gives Mass. Health Reform An ‘A’ [praises Romney Care, says it’s time to go nationwide]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2289329/posts


9 posted on 07/10/2009 5:54:23 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: svcw

I mean people who continually post in support of a liberal loser on a conservative website.

These opportunistic psuedo-intellectual milquetoast trolls hope to subvert the conservative movement through deception and dilution.

They are known as Mittbots.

Maybe a few of them are hairy and live under bridges...down on their luck perhaps?


10 posted on 07/10/2009 6:15:00 PM PDT by Third Person (0bama is a Little Lebowski Urban Achiever)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No, he sucks...

Go with your instincts on this one...


11 posted on 07/10/2009 6:17:39 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
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To: ejonesie22
He saved the Olympics, the entire state of Utah, most of New England and all of Christmas in 1993.

That's funny stuff. I actually did like him when he saved the Olympics. Unfortunately he started running for office after that and spoiled everything.

12 posted on 07/10/2009 6:41:05 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: BfloGuy
I really didn't like the way he saved Christmas, but it was a tough year...
13 posted on 07/10/2009 6:51:25 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
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To: BfloGuy

I thought he was great when he saved the Olympics. Then I realized that he saved it by getting a giant federal government bailout.

Then I realized that that was his approach, in general (unless he’s in federal government, at which point I suppose he might seek bailouts from the states and then claim credit for his “success”).


14 posted on 07/10/2009 7:50:55 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: BfloGuy

As someone who preferred Romney over some other choices like McCain, it looks like Romney is tagged with a failed attempt to compromise with the socialists on healthcare... kind of like the Dems in 2008 on Iraq, we will want people unsullied by previous compromises (eg like voting for TARP).

BUT THE MONEY QUOTE IS THIS: “The combination of guaranteed issue and community rating actively encourages parts of the healthier population to forgo coverage and thus blow up voluntary risk pools.”

... GOVERNMENT REGULATION IS WHAT IS FORCING COSTS INTO INSURANCE AND IN TURN RAISING PRICES AND CAUSING PEOPLE TO DROP OUT OF INSURANCE ALTOGETHER. THE “UNINSURED” IS A GOVT-CAUSED PROBLEM!

Whoever can articulate and explain this in a way that wins people over to the GOP should be our nominee.


15 posted on 07/10/2009 9:31:57 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: reaganaut; BufordP; ejonesie22; AmericanSphinx71; 383rr; jenk; big'ol_freeper; mountainbunny; ...

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16 posted on 07/10/2009 9:48:28 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: ejonesie22

Just like Hotbottom the toothless.


17 posted on 07/11/2009 4:29:46 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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18 posted on 07/11/2009 12:38:40 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: BfloGuy
The way they're covering costs is to force those purchasing insurance to pay for coverage they neither need, nor want.

When our plan was up for renewal in Dec. 2008, we signed up for the basic plan we'd had before, and which cost us about $9K. We were satisfied with it.

Our basic plan went up about $1K, which wasn't too bad, but then they forced a Prescription Drug plan on us that we didn't want, and that jacked up our cost another $4K!! Even with all the meds coming off a 'cardiac virus' that put me in the hospital for 5 days over Christmas of 2007, blood pressure meds all year, and a Cardiac Catheter Ablation the day before Thanksgiving in 2008, we never got NEAR using $2K worth of meds, much less $4K! We've been trying to cancel the Drug coverage, but to no avail.

The problem with govt. run health care is you have no choice in coverage; everyone who can, pays, and through the nose.

19 posted on 07/13/2009 11:12:53 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: BfloGuy
CEO Charlie Baker reports that his company has seen an "astonishing" uptick in people buying coverage for a few months at a time, running up high medical bills, and then dumping the policy after treatment is completed and paid for. Harvard-Pilgrim estimates that between April 2008 and March 2009, about 40% of its new enrollees stayed with it for fewer than five months and on average incurred about $2,400 per person in monthly medical expenses.

When this first went in, I speculated that some people might buy coverage just long enough to report on their tax returns that they had it (to avoid loss of the personal exemption and the fines), then just stop paying premiums. Sounds like the citizenry is more enterprising than I gave them credit for! ;-)

20 posted on 07/18/2009 10:10:14 AM PDT by maryz
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