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Calif. furloughs prompt strike threat from union
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 10, 2009 | AP

Posted on 07/10/2009 5:12:30 PM PDT by KingofZion

Furloughed and fired up, California's largest state employee union announced on Friday it would ask its 95,000 members to authorize a potential strike.

Officials with the Service Employees International Union Local 1000 said the union's executive council has approved putting the question to a vote. The union will ask members whether they want to fight further pay cuts.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said the state's $26 billion deficit has taken a toll on everyone, from state workers to taxpayers. He asked state workers for their patience.

"As soon as our economy comes back ... then we can go and again put them all back to work. Get everyone paid full-time. I think that's the goal here," the governor said between meetings with lawmakers.

Union president Yvonne Walker said it was time to fight Schwarzenegger for imposing three-day-a-month furloughs that amount to a 14 percent pay cut for the state's roughly 235,000 employees.

She said members should not accept his latest proposal for an additional 5 percent pay cut.

"It's time to hit the governor back in his unilateral ***

The voting will take about two weeks.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: budget; ca2009; crisis; iou; unions
I really hope they go on strike. I think that they seriously underestimate their value to the public. After about a week the public will say fire them all (as Reagan did with the ATCs) and the budget problems will be solved.
1 posted on 07/10/2009 5:12:31 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: KingofZion
Make my day.

Then the entire state will see just how nice life can be without these slackers.

2 posted on 07/10/2009 5:13:16 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: KingofZion

Community Organizer 101.


3 posted on 07/10/2009 5:15:06 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: KingofZion

I’m really surprised that SEIU has changed its moniker yet. ACORN sure didn’t waste any time.


4 posted on 07/10/2009 5:16:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: KingofZion
"As soon as our economy comes back ... then we can go and again put them all back to work. Get everyone paid full-time. I think that's the goal here," the governor said between meetings with lawmakers.

I've been listening to Atlas Shrugged on audio (BTW, you can pick it up for $7.50 on audible.com with a membership) and everything I hear politicians say today is a near quote from the book. Unfortunately, it's always a quote from the bad guys.

If the unions go on strike and the state doesn't pay them, that would go a long way towards balancing the budget.

5 posted on 07/10/2009 5:17:07 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: KingofZion

A strike is better than a layoff or furlough.

They can’t get unemployment and the govt. doesn’t have to pay them.


6 posted on 07/10/2009 5:17:33 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: KingofZion

Ilinois had an early retirement offer a few years back, right as Blagojavich was elected, 10,000+ took the offer. More than expected....after the date of retirement...the state kept on humming along as if they didn’t need the SEIU overstaffed dead weight. No Impact on services.

Time for California to hire replacement workers, end the SEIU contract, and maybe even hire Illegals to take their place ?
Wishful thinking......but possible.


7 posted on 07/10/2009 5:18:11 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: KingofZion
"As soon as our economy comes back ... then we can go and again put them all back to work. Get everyone paid full-time. I think that's the goal here," the governor said between meetings with lawmakers.

So Arnold thinks the goal is to put government employees back to work. He's spent too much time around Kennedys.
8 posted on 07/10/2009 5:19:33 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: skeeter

Yep, it would help the budget greatly.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 5:19:33 PM PDT by Godzilla (TEA: Taxed Enough Already)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The State had best cave in on this one. Here are the problems: 1)Who would work for those wages, hours, holidays, insurance and benefits. and 2)Since the State is rolling in IOU’s, why bother? s/


10 posted on 07/10/2009 5:19:56 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We don’t have to pay them as long as they are on strike, right?

The longer they are on strike the more the unions’ political war chests become depleted, right?

I’m not seeing much of a downside here...


11 posted on 07/10/2009 5:20:12 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 171 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: KingofZion

California could fire all of the furloughed workers and it would not save the state enough to balance the budget.

“The California budget deficit is $26 billion now and counting. Shortfalls are rising every day as is interest on IOUs. California could fire all 200,000+ state workers on forced furloughs and still not balance its budget!”

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

Cali is almost totally screwed. This IS series and hugh.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 5:20:13 PM PDT by Need4Truth (Washington DC is a foreign entity.)
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To: Need4Truth

“Cali is almost totally screwed.”

Not exactly.

The feds and Obami will take entire countries resources to keep the unions intact.


13 posted on 07/10/2009 5:22:45 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: healy61

SEIU is a union of thugs- no education- absolute minimum skills, and 1000% attitude.

Won’t miss any of them. They are parasites.


14 posted on 07/10/2009 5:22:59 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Need4Truth
Illegal aliens cost the state about 15 billion a year.

Nah, that would make too much sense.

15 posted on 07/10/2009 5:23:07 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: KingofZion

Please, please go on strike.

Governor, please, please fire them all and then demand that the remaining rank and file clean up their own workspace and rest rooms each evening before going home.


16 posted on 07/10/2009 5:24:06 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

How much is strike pay? Hope it’s enough to run the unions dry so they’ll have fewer dollars for upcoming elections.


17 posted on 07/10/2009 5:27:37 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: KingofZion

Strike, strike, please oh please fricken strike!!!


18 posted on 07/10/2009 5:29:19 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: 4Speed
maybe even hire Illegals to take their place ?

Brilliant, fill state offices with illegals and watch how quick the spoiled state employees that are exposed to them suddenly confirm that illegals ARE a big problem.

"Where's my laptop? It was here a minute ago."

19 posted on 07/10/2009 5:30:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (The Golden Goose doesn't exist that Marxists can't kill.)
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To: skeeter

Ahnuld keeps saying the illegals and their many benes are not the problem..thick headed.


20 posted on 07/10/2009 5:31:09 PM PDT by Achilles Heel
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To: KingofZion

Fire em all. Then ban public employee unions (thats what civil service laws were supposed to do anyway). The parasites are killing the host.


21 posted on 07/10/2009 5:32:45 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Richard Kimball

Directive 10-289

In the name of the general welfare, to protect the people’s security, to achieve full equality and total stability, it is decreed for the duration of the national emergency that:

Point One. All workers, wage earners and employees of any kind whatsoever shall henceforth be attached to their jobs and shall not leave nor be dismissed nor change employment, under penalty of a term in jail. The penalty shall be determined by the Unification Board, such Board to be appointed by the Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources. All persons reaching the age of twenty-one shall report to the Unification Board, which shall assign them to where, in its opinion, their services will best serve the interests of the nation.

Point Two. All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under pentalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property.

Point Three. All patents and copyrights, pertaining to any devices, inventions, formulas, processes and works of any nature whatsoever, shall be turned over to the nation as a patriotic emergency gift by means of Gift Certificates to be signed voluntarily by the owners of all such patents and copyrights. The Unification Board shall then license the use of such patents and copyrights to all applicants, equally and without discrimination, for the purpose of eliminating monopolistic practices, discarding obsolete products and making the best available to the whole nation. No trademarks, brand names or copyrighted titles shall be used. Every formerly patented product shall be known by a new name and sold by all manufacturers under the same name, such name to be selected by the Unification Board. All private trademarks and brand names are hereby abolished.

Point Four. No new devices, inventions, products, or goods of any nature whatsoever, not now on the market, shall be produced, invented, manufacturerd or sold afer the date of this directive. The Office of Patents and Copyrights is hereby suspended.

Point Five. Every establishment, concern, corporation or person engaged in production of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth produce the same amount of goods per year as it, they or he produced during the Basic Year, no more and no less. The year to be known as the Basic or Yardstick Year is to be the year ending on the date of this directive. Over or under production shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Barod.

Point Six. Every person of any age, sex, class or income, shall henceforth spend the same amount of money on the purchase of goods per year as he or she spent during the Basic Year, no more and no less. Over or under purchasing shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Board.

Point Seven. All wages, prices, salaries, dividends, profits, interest rates and forms of income of any nature whatsoever, shall be frozen at their present figures, as of the date of this directive.

Point Eight. All cases arising from and rules not specifically provided for in this directive, shall be settled and determined by the Unification Board, whose decisions will be final


22 posted on 07/10/2009 5:35:53 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 171 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: null and void

I was just watching an ABC Evening News segment about the furloughs. They showed a DMV worker at a local food bank who stated that he was there in order to get food to survive. As the segment ended they showed this same worker as he was leaving the food bank, and guess what, across the back of his jacket was the letters SEIU.


23 posted on 07/10/2009 5:42:24 PM PDT by Wooly
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To: skeeter

I wondered when someone would identify the real problem. Congrats to you.


24 posted on 07/10/2009 5:48:35 PM PDT by taillightchaser (When a democrat says "The American people" you know the next words out of his mouth will be lies.)
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To: KingofZion

LOL! Now tell me, if they strike wouldn’t that save California a lot of money since they wouldn’ be paid for the time not worked?


25 posted on 07/10/2009 5:52:18 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: KingofZion

do I have this right:
Furlough = day off without pay
STRIKE = DAYS off without pay

The state of CA just can’t lose!


26 posted on 07/10/2009 5:59:34 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: KingofZion

do I have this right:
Furlough = day off without pay
STRIKE = DAYS off without pay

The state of CA just can’t lose!


27 posted on 07/10/2009 6:01:03 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: KingofZion

Please, please, please strike. Finish the state off so we can start afresh!


28 posted on 07/10/2009 6:01:37 PM PDT by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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To: KingofZion

LOL!...Strike you fools!


29 posted on 07/10/2009 6:03:41 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: chris_bdba

We had furloughs here in IL way back when. Minimum of three days for each employee. No big deal, some employees who were chronically absent volunteered for a lot more than the minimum!

So, what I’m wondering here is what the difference is in terms of your paycheck, between going on strike and furlough days? Call me dense but in either case you ain’t gonna get paid! Those furlough days are set in number, while that strike could be a lot longer. I’d go for the sure thing if it was me. But what do I know?


30 posted on 07/10/2009 6:04:57 PM PDT by RonInNaples
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To: KingofZion
Furloughed and fired up, California's largest state employee union announced on Friday it would ask its 95,000 members to authorize a potential strike.

If there's anybody left that doesn't understand California's problem, there it is in black and white.

FWIW, I hope they go on strike. Then the public will see the true value of the services they provide (next to nothing).

31 posted on 07/10/2009 6:22:08 PM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: RonInNaples

That is what I was thinking. If the strike goes on for 6 months you lose 6 months wages unless your union has some sort of pay structure for being on strike. Believe me, my Dh’d union pay for stike is something like $120 a week so having a furlough a few days a week would earn you much more money than an outright strike! Striking could help California out of it’s debt, IMHO.


32 posted on 07/10/2009 6:26:47 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: KingofZion

Someone will have to do without...everybody, get accustomed to it.


33 posted on 07/10/2009 6:54:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: Kozak

1. Let them strike to deplete the union wealth and to bring public opinion against the union.
2. Fire them.
3. Sue the union for damages.
4. Go bankrupt and wipe out the Pensions.
5. Outlaw unions for gov’t employees.


34 posted on 07/10/2009 7:05:09 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: KingofZion

What’s the downside?


35 posted on 07/10/2009 8:02:13 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I've conquered my goddam willpower." Don Marquis)
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To: KingofZion

Please do this, for California’s sake. Your pay cut will be 100% while you’re on strike.


36 posted on 07/10/2009 8:52:13 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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