Posted on 07/11/2009 11:38:48 AM PDT by McGruff
In an interview with the Washington Times, Palin makes her most direct comments yet about Conservativism versus the Republican Party. In my humble opinion, it’s clear the GOP, unfortunately, is lost beyond the point of return. When you’re one year out of key campaigns to take back Congress in 2010 and Meghan McCain is The Oracle of the party, you know it’s over. If Tina Brown thought Ms. McCain’s willingness to be a Useful Idiot for liberals would undermine the conservative movement (and consequently Sarah Palin), she should take a serious and long look at what their attacks on Palin provoked: a stronger, more independent, more determined conservative leader and base.
Enter now Sarah Palin with very encouraging comments that lead one to believe that she is indeed planning to do what she must: build an independent conservative movement and take this nation back from the liberals which now control both parties.Thanks liberals, for provoking Sarah into the national scene while vetting that family at the same time.
One thing I will say, the Washington Times with their headline for this exclusive interview reveal an anti-Palin stance. She is, don’t doubt, a threat to every existing political status quo. I hope the Washington Times and their editors realize, sooner than later, that the Palin movement is unstoppable and their credibility would be saved simply by reporting the news instead of becoming a GOP version of the NYT.
Interesting being I have long been suggesting that perhaps the best thing for Palin to do was drop the GOP label and run as a fiscal conservative Independent.
there are more “Democrats” than actual liberals, and more conservatives than Republicans.
Yeah, I’ll join her. FOR SURE.
I don’t think anyone can imagine what is about to happen.
Palin is about to sweep a new conservative coalition to power and may very well do it outside either party.
I don't know if I'm ready to dump the Republican Party yet but I will know by the time they select their candidate in 2012.
I'll still support the House Republicans. Remember not one of them voted for PORKULUS.
If Palin ever runs for office again, she will do so as a Republican.
ANYONE can control a “new” third party, since the typical Third Party can meet in the average church basement.
Prediction:
There is only ONE “independent” in the House, a SOCIALIST!
There is only ONE “independent” in the Senate, Lieberman!
In 2 years, those numbers will not change by more than one or two!
To get anything done, at all, we need to work within the Republican Party structure!
Ronaldus Maximus didn’t really leave the Democrat Party —it, however, did leave him. And that’s why the Republicans got him.
AND SO IT REPEATS...
Independent Conservatives need to take over the GOP, or kill it off. Third parties have a bad track record, unfortunately.
Hey, the libertarians could fill a big library with their convention........
where do i sign up!!??? where do i send contributions!!?? (and i have never contributed to any party....i say this so the GOP knows how badly i feel they have screwed me over!!!)))
Yup. I was hopeful until those 8 traitors voted for the "crap, tax, and restrict trade" bill.
Now it's clear that a completely new party must be formed, much like how Prime minister Steven Harper did in Canada when they formed the Reform party, which became the Conservitive Party of Canada.
The old blue liberals, which were the equivalent to the Liberal GOP here in the USA, faded into history after being destroyed by Brian Mulroney and Kim Campbell.
This is the fate of the Republican party. Meghan McCain is the USA's Kim Campbell equivalent, the final nail in the old Republican party's coffin.
It’d be funny if she ran as a Democrat. Won’t happen, specially in 2012, but it’d be a hoot. Stick it to the GOP, and put a new face on the RATs, I’d vote for her.
Spelling out in her book what she wants to accomplish in a ‘Contract with America’ would move the pile in her direction.
>> To get anything done, at all, we need to work within the Republican Party structure!
What you mean, “we”, kimosabe?
Screw the Republican Party. They are nothing but money-grubbing power-drunk jerkoffs. Just like the ‘Rats.
She will probably wind up running 3rd Party in 2012, and gain all the conservative votes (plus a lot of women's votes), but in the end, it would assure The Messiah a second term, as it would be Ross Perot-like all over again, which left us with Klintoon. Romney is the candidate the money will follow, and the RINO will carry MittWit votes, and some die-hard-won't-admit-the-Party-is-doomed-Republicans.
Once the media props up their boy, with nothing but drooling and 24/7 promotion, it's VERY hard to counter with NO MEDIA COVERAGE IN A POSITIVE light for anything other than a Liberal/Socialist/Hollywood-type candidate.
Her best bet would not be to create a new party, put to create a cohesive faction in the Republican party that is *exclusive* to conservatives. That is, to belong to that faction, an individual must formally agree with its core beliefs, as well as ways and means to achieve those beliefs.
If they refuse, *or* if their actions run contrary to what they say, then they cannot carry that faction’s label.
To make things even clearer, the faction should have a concise statement of its beliefs, much like the Contract With America. And it should be *very* clear that they will not support liberals just because they are Republicans.
I’ve given up on the GOP. I’ll never vote for them on the national level again.
LOL. I haven't heard anyone use that line in quite a while. I use it once in a while.
No, what Palin is doing is rebuilding the old Reagan coalition, and putting both RINOs and leftists in the Democrats on notice - by telling them to support her goals, or risk losing your voters to more conservative candidates.
Yippe Yahoo it is about doggone time.
If you think the GOP is scared of her now, wait until she goes third party. It might force their hand and make them stop being so critical of her.
Do we really need a 3rd party? Is there any other country on earth that has more than 2 competitive parties?
I was with her up to this point. The moment she tries to start an “independent” conservative movement instead of uniting conservatives to retake the GOP and use it as a vehicle for conservatives to return to power, she loses my support completely. Splitters - no matter how popular - are nothing more than useful idiots for the Left.
Bump!
There is no 3rd party whatsoever.
Palin is forging a coalition of conservatives in both parties within the Republican Party. She is not "reaching out" to Democrats, but will ask Democrats to join her.
Once voters see the contrast they'll flock to her in droves.
>> I haven’t heard anyone use that line in quite a while.
Do you by chance recall where it originated?
Not even if they get it together and run another Ronald Reagan style conservative? Sorry, but you're jumped the shark.
[In my humble opinion, it’s clear the GOP, unfortunately, is lost beyond the point of return.] — snip.
Is that the quote? Is that what Palin said? Or is that someone else saying it? Are there any other quotes?
I agree. Besides, pretty much everyone in the GOP is conservative in one way or another. The conflict is with people who are fiscal or defense conservatives but not socially conservative.
We need a solution that will put a stop to the RATS destroying our country.
Only one third party has ever been successful in taking the Presidency.
The Republican Party
Other than that every time a third party has had an impact on an election it has been to the detriment of the ideals that the third party has espoused. (Perot’s desire to reign in spending and stop NAFTA got Clinton elected).
will split the vote on the right.....4 more years of Obama....change the Republican party, fight for the soul of the Republican party!
>> Is there any other country on earth that has more than 2 competitive parties?
Define “competitive”.
I think there is a difference. Republicans want to establish cartels and sit around with brandy sniffers sneering at the low class conservatives.
Democrats are revolutionaries. They will use the underclass to burn out the opposition and murder them.
And, if she did, it would destroy Palin.
Problem is, there are a whole lot of the "I'm never gonna vote Republican agin!" type yahoos out there who, regardless of what *she* means by it, are going to jump on that bandwagon and run it right into a second Obama term.
If third partyism is what Palin means, then she will get no support from me whatsoever. If she wants an umbrella group which will not be limited to, but which will include GOP conservatives, then I'm with her.
Too late. That should have been happening when Bush and the republicans started showing us what cowards they were.
Just as much effort is needed to launch as new party as is needed to change every Republican representative in the old party.
Those RINO's have a complete control of the GOP, and aren't about to let go.
Meghan McCain is going to lead the republican party into near obliteration next election, except for maybe 4-5 sates. just watch and see.
So either way, we are faced with about 12 years of near complete Democrat control just like Canada was faced with 12 years of Liberal control after Brian Mulroney, and his successor, Kim Campbell (who lost all but 4 seats in the Canadian parliament) did to the conservative party in Canada.
You are kidding yourself if you think we can rebuild the republican party when we have the likes of Meghan McCain and all the rest of those RINO's in control of the party.
How to you propose to make sure than any elected Representatives or politicians, in any “third party” ALWAYS do what YOU want them to do?
That is not possible!
Third Parties don't solve a darn thing.
And I thought I was cynical. Clearly, I’m just a piker! I’m taking notes so I can improve. :-)
I’m with you Titus. I will never vote for 3rd party.
I hear the indy radio shows who can’t even come up with a decent name for their third party. It’s like the twelve year olds on message boards who think their team will win the World Series if only everybody else will trade them their best players.
The third party thing is idealism. It helps the Dems and divides us again, making the libs stronger. We have enough trouble already.
Swallow your pride and get to work.
The work is in the Republican Party, any other activity is for those who care more about their ego and their pride than they care about RESULTS!
I say go for it Sarah!
Neither will defeatism.
Again, look at how Steven Harper rebuild conservative movement in Canada.
The only way to force the old executive out is to dissolve the old republican party and it's constitution. You do this by making a new party with a new constitution, raiding the membership of the old and literally destroying the old party.
Much like one union raiding another.
Good for her, count me in, the republican party can go self-copulate for the rest of time.
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