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Maine gay marriage referendum push kicks into high gear (70,000 sigs gathered only 50,000 needed)
http://everydaychristian.com ^ | July 10, 2009 | By Peter Elliott

Posted on 07/11/2009 7:44:21 PM PDT by Maelstorm

The push to get a gay marriage referendum on the November 3 ballot in Maine kicked into high gear this week when petition-gathering opponents gathered well more than the required signatures in little more than a month.

Gay marriage opponents are required to have 55,087 validated voter signatures on petitions by Aug. 3 to prompt a “People’s Veto” and send the issue to Maine voters.

Earlier this week, about 70,000 signatures had been gathered, with more expected, according to Bob Emrich.

Emrich is a pastor and founder of The Jeremiah Project, a Christian-based public advocacy group. He is one of the leading organizers affiliated with the Stand for Marriage Maine coalition of religious leaders leading the charge against gay marriage, which was approved by the state legislature and signed Gov. John Baldacci in May.

In June, Emrich had said he and other organizers would like to get at least 70,000 signatures to account for any duplications or otherwise invalid petition signatures. It’s likely that number will be exceeded.

“Right now we know we have around 70,000 signatures and many more still out in the field collecting signatures,” he said Thursday.

Signatures have to be submitted to local town clerks to be validated against voter rolls and then submitted to the Secretary of State for further screening.

When the signature gathering began in late May and early June, whether or not enough signatures would be gathered in time to get the measure on the November ballot was in doubt. A longer period of time to gather signatures would have resulted in it heading to a June 2010 vote dovetailed with primary elections.

That, however, now is unlikely. As a result, marriage licenses which originally could have been granted to same-sex couples by Sept. 12 can no longer be issued.

“I am a little surprised, pleasantly so, that it has gone as well as it has so far,” he said. “The level of support throughout the state and the hard work of the folks circulating the petitions has been tremendous. Even today I’m still getting calls from people who want to circulate petitions even though our numbers are where they’re at. … There’s a groundswell of support out there that we’ve tapped into.”

Doing the petition drive over the summer, signatures can’t be gathered outside polling places as they might during a primary or general election, removing a key magnet for participation. That has required volunteers to go to places such as post offices and school board meetings in addition to the traditional door-to-door approach.

“Every place we’ve been, the reports are that we are that we’ve been getting a pretty good response,” Emrich said. “There are instances where people have refused to sign, but from what I’ve heard there hasn’t been a large amount of anger or animosity.”

Church groups have been central to gathering signatures, Emrich said, and many petition signatories have a Christian background. However, secular voters may be swayed by the argument that the legislature overreached as part of a power grab instead of directly putting gay marriage in front of voters in the first place.

“There are a number of issues on the ballot, including a tax reform issue,” Emrich said.

“Maybe we’re becoming a little bit like California,” he chuckled. “There is an opinion out there of, ‘Why do we have to vote on all these issues and referendums if the legislature can’t figure it out on their own the first time?’.”

Drawing an analogy to California is timely.

Last year, California voters approved Proposition 8, which negated a State Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage/. The court upheld Prop 8 in a lawsuit brought by gay marriage advocates. A lawsuit in federal court is challenging Prop 8 and may set the stage for an eventual U.S. Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage.

Whether or not the same protracted legal battle over the outcome of the Maine vote is unforeseeable right now, but it is clear arguments will need to be tailored to reach a secular audience and there will be significant sums of money spent on doing so.

“It’s hard to put a number on what the motivation is for people signing the petition along religious or secular lines, but I would say the majority of people from a Christian point of view feel that a very serious line has been crossed and that’s why we’ve seen churches be such a big part of gathering signatures,” Emrich said. “For the campaign I think the advertising will take a secular bent because most religious people don’t need to be persuaded on this issue. As with a lot of issues, undecideds tend to approach things from a more secular point of view.”

Issues such as the impact of how homosexuality might be addressed differently in public schools and the importance of traditional marriage as a social institution will likely come up in the campaign.

Stand for Marriage Maine communications director Scott Fish said there are numerous issues which are being brought out.

“From my experience and following this issue from its inception as a bill through the legislature and its signing by the governor, there are a lot of people that are looking forward to voting for many different reasons,” he said. “For example, there are people who really believe the bill should have gone out initially to referendum. There are others who feel it has really destroyed a defense of marriage law Maine passed not all that long ago. People who even support same-sex marriage otherwise could feel there should have been more debate and public hearings. There are plenty of issues which cut across religious and secular lines.”

Emrich confirmed that financial contributions are coming in and will be needed from outside of Maine to fund the campaign. He said he expects that will be brought up by gay marriage proponents as well, but argued that that the initial funding for bringing the gay marriage debate to Maine came, to some degree, from out-of-state funds as well.

Last week National Organization for Marriage executive director Brian Brown told Everyday Christian that NOM would help with campaign logistics, fundraising and advertising in Maine. NOM had done all three in the Prop 8 fight and has subsequently in other states where gay marriage has been an issue, most recently New York.

On Wednesday, NOM posted a blog on its site encouraging contributions to Stand for Marriage Maine.

Emirch said Brown has been “very helpful” in helping build a support base in Maine, as has Colorado-based Focus on the Family. Focus has contributed financially and helped with mailings, Emrich said, and will continue to do so heading into November.

“The interesting about this campaign is that you have to be succinct and get into it quickly to make your point,” Stand for Marriage Maine’s Fish added. “Soup to nuts, this is going to be a very concentrated effort.”

There is also a human element that helps opponents and proponents of gay marriage with a short four-month campaign instead of a more protracted battle languishing into next summer.

“There is a weariness factor with a long campaign, to be sure,” Emrich said. “People in the public get tired of hearing about it and listening to it. People working on the campaign can get burned out. For most us, this issue is not our livelihood. Most people are busy trying to make a living, I have a church to pastor, for example.

“The longer this goes on there can also be division within families and it can be divisive within locations, and we’ve already seen a little bit of that. The shorter the campaign, the better we can tamp down on some of those feelings for everyone.”

Yet as quickly as the signatures have been gathered, neither Fish nor Emrich feel that there will be any coasting to an easy victory.

“I don’t think anybody is taking anything for granted, and that is magnified by the short time we have to run the campaign,” Fish said. “To get the signatures in about a month’s time is good, but it absolutely is not cause to say, ‘Game over,’ not by any stretch of the imagination.”

Emrich added, “There is a whole lot left to be accomplished. However, when the dust all settles, I believe marriage in Maine between will be defined as between a man and a woman because that’s what Maine people believe.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; main; marriage; me2009; protectmarriage

1 posted on 07/11/2009 7:44:22 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Come on, Maine!


2 posted on 07/11/2009 7:53:08 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Maelstorm

Excellent...nice to see some enthusiasm for opposing the immoral gay-marriage foisted down the throats of the people.
This coming from the liberal state of Maine is encouraging!


3 posted on 07/11/2009 7:54:34 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Gay marriage opponents are required to have 55,087 validated voter signatures on petitions by Aug. 3 to prompt a "People's Veto" and send the issue to Maine voters. Earlier this week, about 70,000 signatures had been gathered, with more expected, according to Bob Emrich.

4 posted on 07/11/2009 7:56:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Marie2

I spoke to Bob only a couple of weeks ago when we signed the petition. At that time there were 50,000 so that’s 20k more in 2 weeks. There’s hope!


5 posted on 07/11/2009 7:57:17 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Marie2

Even raving Maineiacs are ready to say “enough.”


6 posted on 07/11/2009 7:59:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat Party: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I hope they get 100k sigs - the homo-libs are out in force signing this thing and will then protest that the petition is “misleading” or that their petition was forged, throwing as much doubt toward the drive’s legitimacy as possible. Kind of their version of “operation chaos.”

That said, I’m cheering for Maine voters to do the right thing and push back the homo tide. I hope this enthusiastic drive is an indicator of the level of support across Maine against perversion.


7 posted on 07/11/2009 8:11:38 PM PDT by fwdude (Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below.)
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To: Marie2

Maine is going to vote down Gay Marriage. The truth be known most of the North East if given the chance to vote would strike gay marriage down. Republicans could use this to their advantage but they won’t.


8 posted on 07/11/2009 8:14:02 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: Maelstorm
Gay marriage opponents are required to have 55,087 validated voter signatures on petitions by Aug. 3 to prompt a “People’s Veto” and send the issue to Maine voters.

I wonder if the other states that have been forced into this homo "marriage" fiasco can do the same thing.

9 posted on 07/11/2009 8:18:02 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Maelstorm

I hope the signatures are valid.


10 posted on 07/11/2009 8:18:39 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: tflabo

That is what gets me however I’m beginning to think that the conservative problem isn’t so much that people are so liberal in the North East but one of message and deed. Look at RI, it elected a rock ribbed conservative Governor Carcieri.


11 posted on 07/11/2009 8:22:04 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: Maelstorm
The Northeast has a lot of welfare free loaders. They'll come out in droves every time to vote themselves more of other peoples money.
The working class feels out numbered, so many of them don't vote. They don't realize they can make a difference, and the right wing candidates never bring it to their attention - because the right wing candidates assume the same thing!
12 posted on 07/11/2009 8:30:26 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Maelstorm

Great job by the folks in Maine. Get rid of RINO Snowe and the other one in a primary after this.


13 posted on 07/11/2009 8:31:03 PM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: Maelstorm

People don’t like having these social agendas forced on them by the courts. Trust me. I live in California.


14 posted on 07/11/2009 8:33:51 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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CONGRATULATIONS MAINE!!!!.... Here, I will share my "favorite" U.S. FLAG with the courageous state of MAINE.....TA-TA-TAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

YES WE CAN! :) ------------- (where did hear that? :)


15 posted on 07/11/2009 8:35:00 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war on family-values is *** DEAFENING ***)
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To: GVnana

And what gets me it is so unnecessary. The gay rights movement is built on a lie. There was never great harassment of most who identified themselves as homosexuals and lived their lives quietly and unobtrusively the problem with that is most don’t one only has to witness any gay pride parade.


16 posted on 07/11/2009 8:38:35 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: ElPatriota

Oh My! The new “belly girl”?


17 posted on 07/11/2009 8:44:32 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: GVnana
She was a fan cheering for the U.S Soccer team... Such a "patriot!"... brings a tear to my eye

:)

18 posted on 07/11/2009 8:47:01 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war on family-values is *** DEAFENING ***)
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To: Maelstorm
It's not even so much "quiet and unobtrusive". Americans have rights. If there is an injustice, it's appropriate -- and very American -- to change it.

But when gay marriage advocates take the mantel of civil rights issues, it's just too phoney, too contrived, to be believed.

19 posted on 07/11/2009 8:48:26 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: All
Congratulations... MAINE!... we CELEBRATE WITY YOU! :)


20 posted on 07/11/2009 8:55:31 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war on family-values is *** DEAFENING ***)
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To: GVnana

Then “quiet and unobtrusive” was a reference to the sexual activism not in general reference to politics. I agree where there is injustice let it be addressed.


21 posted on 07/11/2009 9:02:07 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Sarah Palin 2012 (Who else in the GOP is man enough?))
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To: tflabo
For the most part it is not the native people of Maine, people who's family have been there forever. Its the damned liberals from New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts who moved to the state who have ruined the place.

These libs live in Southern or coastal Maine, are active in politics, hold the native population in total contempt and force this crap down the throat of every good Mainer I have ever known.

The state is crawling with people who are not from Maine.

22 posted on 07/12/2009 12:42:11 AM PDT by warsaw44
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To: warsaw44
The state is crawling with people who are not from Maine.

I recently saw a post from a Mainer who thought voting on local/state issues should be limited to long-term Mainers only, with some longevity in the state - 20 or 30 years. Great idea, I think.

23 posted on 07/12/2009 11:33:56 AM PDT by fwdude (Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below.)
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To: Morgana

:)


26 posted on 07/12/2009 3:12:43 PM PDT by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war on family-values is *** DEAFENING ***)
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To: GVnana
Americans have rights. If there is an injustice, it's appropriate -- and very American -- to change it.

I might be stepping out on a limb here, but IMO Americans have already long attained all the rights (and more) they could possibly have as promised in the Constitution. All new "rights" are contrived and are really preferences meant to give a subculture Carte Blanche to engage in activity the law has deemed immoral. Sorry, but can you give me a possible "right" that some individual is currently being denied?

27 posted on 07/12/2009 4:45:01 PM PDT by fwdude (Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below.)
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To: fwdude

You misconstrued my meaning. But to explain, gays are entitled to the same rights as any other individual under the constitution — life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I agree with you regarding “new rights.”


28 posted on 07/12/2009 6:19:38 PM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: GVnana

Sure, I understand. Thanks for the clarification.


29 posted on 07/12/2009 8:39:06 PM PDT by fwdude (Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below.)
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