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Runway rename as North Pole moves.... (Pole Shift & Pole Reversal in 2012)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/essex/8136307.stm ^ | July 6th, 2009

Posted on 07/12/2009 8:53:22 PM PDT by TaraP

Stansted Airport in Essex has renamed its 3,000m (9,750ft) runway because the position of the Earth's magnetic North Pole has moved. The runway was known by pilots and air traffic controllers as 23/05 because of its location and compass heading. The magnetic North Pole drifts naturally, and every 50 years its position alters significantly. Managers at Stansted decided they must call the runway 22/04 to reflect the new position and bearing. Trevor Waldock, head of airside operations, said: "We've had to make this change due to the Magnetic North Pole slowly drifting on the Earth's surface but our runway remains in a fixed position. "It'll roughly be another 56 years before we have to consider changing it again. "Redesignating the runway at a busy international airport, such as Stansted, presents a number of complex challenges, so we've had a programme of works specially organised to minimise any disruption to normal operations." The project, which took place at night, was completed on 5 July and included the replacement of all airfield signage and the repainting of the huge numbers at each end of the runway. The magnetic North Pole will continue to drift until it eventually switches with the magnetic South Pole. The Earth last went through this an estimated 780,000 years ago. With time, due to the Magnetic North Pole moving south, the Northern Lights will be more regularly visible in the UK.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arctic; nature; northpole; poleshift; science; scientific
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1 posted on 07/12/2009 8:53:22 PM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP

Cant you just hear some nimrod blaming the fact that the position of the Earth’s magnetic North Pole has moved on global warming?


2 posted on 07/12/2009 9:03:27 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: TaraP
and every 50 years its position alters significantly.

Not 49 or 52? How does the Earth know it was exactly 50 years?

3 posted on 07/12/2009 9:06:53 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: TaraP
There is some evidence of this. Its called the South Atlantic Anomaly.There is evidence that the geomagnetic field is weakening here.The SAA is produced by a "dip" in the Earth's magnetic field at that location, caused by the fact that the center of Earth's magnetic field is offset from its geographic center by 280 miles.
4 posted on 07/12/2009 9:10:55 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: TaraP
There is some evidence of this. Its called the South Atlantic Anomaly.There is evidence that the geomagnetic field is weakening here.The SAA is produced by a "dip" in the Earth's magnetic field at that location, caused by the fact that the center of Earth's magnetic field is offset from its geographic center by 280 miles.
5 posted on 07/12/2009 9:11:50 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: TaraP

It’s just Atlas shrugging!!!


6 posted on 07/12/2009 9:12:10 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The Earth will switch it’s poles completely, once the Sun does the same.

It happens all the time (geologic time).

The main effect is that compasses will have to be reversed.


7 posted on 07/12/2009 9:20:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

I agree with you. Its the Earth’s Dynamo


8 posted on 07/12/2009 9:22:02 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: UCANSEE2

The Sun has the Solar Dynamo


9 posted on 07/12/2009 9:22:54 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: SierraWasp

I’m still looking for the airport with a 0, 18 runway!


10 posted on 07/12/2009 9:23:20 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: TaraP

The problem is that the earth’s magnetic field will gradually weaken during the north to south switch. This will cause solar radiation to penetrate the atmosphere which could have a detriment effect to life on earth. This switch process may take hundreds of years.


11 posted on 07/12/2009 9:26:30 PM PDT by kenn5
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To: dalereed

Don’t follow me... I’m lost!!!


12 posted on 07/12/2009 9:28:33 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: TaraP

Don’t worry-—just buy magnetic offsets and you’ll be fine....


13 posted on 07/12/2009 9:34:24 PM PDT by TorahTrueJew
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To: TaraP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIdW-ngRZMs

Earth Magnetic Pole Reversals Simulation
14 posted on 07/12/2009 9:34:43 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: sonofstrangelove

The Sun gives, the Earth receives.


15 posted on 07/12/2009 9:37:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

Thats a good way to put it.Some of what the Sun gives is deadly.


16 posted on 07/12/2009 9:39:17 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: kenn5
This will cause solar radiation to penetrate the atmosphere which could have a detriment effect to life on earth. This switch process may take hundreds of years.

It could cause the heavens to pour out their water, and the underground water to burst forth, flooding the main land areas of the planet.

Nahhh.... nothing like that has ever happened.

17 posted on 07/12/2009 9:41:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: TaraP

Nonsense! this is man made global pole shift due to electrons / electrical emr pollution.

All electronic emission must be stopped at once or we will kill the planet!


18 posted on 07/12/2009 9:47:58 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Some of what the Sun gives is deadly.

Good thing we have a well thought out set of filtrating atmospheric layers around our planet.

19 posted on 07/12/2009 9:49:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: kenn5

Correct with out the magnetic field shield during the pole flip...we become solar wind slow cooked bbq


20 posted on 07/12/2009 9:52:38 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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To: TaraP

More irreversible climate change, when will humanity leave the planet in peace.


21 posted on 07/12/2009 9:55:21 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: UCANSEE2
It could cause the heavens to pour out their water

Assuming you refer to the "waters above the firmament", these are not OF the heavens, but ABOVE the heavens, conceived of as a dome, or "vault".

These conceptions are no longer possible for anyone, including you, to seriously entertain as a physical reality.

22 posted on 07/12/2009 9:55:37 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Comfortably ensconced within my corner of this grand, collective illusion all seems well in my world.


23 posted on 07/12/2009 9:59:21 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: TaraP

I thought runways were based on true north, not magnetic north? All that is changing is the magnetic declination, once that is corrected for, there should be no problem.

Or, I am confused......


24 posted on 07/12/2009 10:06:39 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Old Professer
In some remote corner of the universe, poured out and glittering in innumerable solar systems, there once was a star on which clever animals invented knowledge. That was the highest and most mendacious minute of "world history"—yet only a minute. After nature had drawn a few breaths the star grew cold, and the clever animals had to die.

One might invent such a fable and still not have illustrated sufficiently how wretched, how shadowy and flighty, how aimless and arbitrary, the human intellect appears in nature. There have been eternities when it did not exist; and when it is done for again, nothing will have happened.

... a lot of people like this one, check it.

25 posted on 07/12/2009 10:09:41 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: TaraP
Magnetic pole shifts in 2012, Mayan calender ends in 2012, idiots give obama a second term in 2012. WE'RE DOOMED!
26 posted on 07/12/2009 10:11:16 PM PDT by metalurgist (Want America back? It'll take guns and rope. We're too far gone.)
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To: HerrBlucher

There are three kinds of north: celestial north (axis of rotation, points at our current pole star, Polaris), magnetic north, and “map” north as determined by converging lines of longitude.


27 posted on 07/12/2009 10:12:22 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

In aviation, its true north and mag north, true north being the actual location of the north pole. Compasses are corrected for mag dec to get true north so there should be no problem if the mag dec is changed in accordance with the mag pole shift. Something just doesn’t seem right here.


28 posted on 07/12/2009 10:16:00 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: UCANSEE2

We still have not still protected ourselves from Solar EMP from a major storm on the Sun


29 posted on 07/12/2009 10:44:16 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: dr_lew
These conceptions are no longer possible for anyone, including you, to seriously entertain as a physical reality.

So, it's just my imagination that the atmosphere constantly retains a certain amount of H2O? And that the ability to retain it could be lost due to changes in the magnetic field and exposure to effects from the sun?

30 posted on 07/12/2009 10:47:11 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: sonofstrangelove
We still have not still protected ourselves from Solar EMP from a major storm on the Sun.

And just what could we do? It is also likely the EMP would be accompanied by other energies in the EM spectrum which would fry us to a crisp anyway.

31 posted on 07/12/2009 10:51:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

What can we do? Prepare for a society that will be thrown back to the stone age.


32 posted on 07/12/2009 10:52:39 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: UCANSEE2
So, it's just my imagination that the atmosphere constantly retains a certain amount of H2O? And that the ability to retain it could be lost due to changes in the magnetic field and exposure to effects from the sun?

To the first, no. To the second, yes.

But how could any of this relate to "the waters above the firmament" ?

33 posted on 07/12/2009 11:09:16 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: TaraP

This is supposed to cause major havoc with all of our electronics.


34 posted on 07/12/2009 11:12:58 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: SkyDancer

A heads up


35 posted on 07/12/2009 11:13:53 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

That looks chaotic


36 posted on 07/12/2009 11:22:35 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: HerrBlucher

I’m not a pilot, but the magnetic declination is different for every place on earth to find True North. However, your compass ALWAYS points to magnetic north no matter where you are. It would seem to me that pilots would have to refer to magnetic north, or they would be constantly having to correct for true north.

And so perhaps the runways are named with a reference to magnetic north. If they were named with reference to true north - that would never change. On an old survey map, true north is still the same true north. You would need to look up the mag. declination to figure out how to set your compass, but the true north line on the map is ALWAYS true north.


37 posted on 07/12/2009 11:34:48 PM PDT by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: wastedyears

The pole is actually shifting as we speak albeit to such a minor degree that we would never notice during our lifetimes.The North Magnetic Pole is slowly drifting across the Canadian Arctic.But it happens because we have the rocks to prove that has happened.Some speculate that a greatly diminished magnetic field during a reversal period will expose the surface of the earth to a substantial and potentially damaging increase in cosmic radiation.


38 posted on 07/12/2009 11:49:06 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: sonofstrangelove; TaraP
Add this one for your viewing enjoyment: Ask A Physicist - Pole Reversal - it's about ten minutes.       :^)
39 posted on 07/13/2009 12:17:14 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

I will check it out


40 posted on 07/13/2009 12:19:06 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: sonofstrangelove
The pole is actually shifting as we speak albeit to such a minor degree that we would never notice during our lifetimes.

You're not paying attention!


41 posted on 07/13/2009 12:34:07 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

It’s making a beeline for true north. What does it know?

On a related note, Mr. Waldock points out “our runway remains in a fixed position.” I’m glad he pointed that out. I was fearful that UK “shovel ready” jobs dug up a perfectly good runway and repaved it with a one degree correction. (Think I should pass that idea to Obama?)


42 posted on 07/13/2009 1:40:27 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 21twelve

Exactly. Pilots adjust their compasses to correct for mag dec as they travel long distances. They also have to adjust their altimeter to correct for changing atomospheric pressure.


43 posted on 07/13/2009 6:30:13 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: SirKit

Ping!


44 posted on 07/13/2009 11:32:44 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: dr_lew

Do you feel the poles moving?


45 posted on 07/13/2009 2:28:33 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: dr_lew

Do you feel the poles moving? I also did mention in post number#38 that he North Magnetic Pole is slowly drifting across the Canadian Arctic


46 posted on 07/13/2009 2:30:09 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: dr_lew

You are not paying attention.


47 posted on 07/13/2009 2:31:04 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: dr_lew

You are not paying attention.


48 posted on 07/13/2009 2:31:09 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld (A leader does not deserve the name unless he is willing occasionally to stand alone-Henry Kissinger)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Prepare for a society that will be thrown back to the stone age.

Obama will have achieved that way before the pole flips.

49 posted on 07/13/2009 6:12:31 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: dr_lew
"the waters above the firmament"

(depends on what you mean by firmament)

The relationship is this: Could a change in the magnetosphere influence in a drastic way the ability of the atmosphere to retain water?

Additionally, could it vary the amount of water that Earth gains from space.

50 posted on 07/13/2009 6:38:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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