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Courting Votes Of Hispanics A GOP Mistake
Investors Business Daily ^ | Patrick Buchanan

Posted on 07/14/2009 5:59:22 PM PDT by dr_who

Republicans have been given fair warning: Should GOP senators treat Sonia Sotomayor as contemptuously as Democrats treated Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito, they should expect Hispanic hostility for a generation.

The chutzpah of this Beltway crowd does not cease to amaze.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: buchanan; gop; hispanicvote; patbuchanan; sotomayor; sotomayorgop

1 posted on 07/14/2009 5:59:23 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: dr_who
In before irrational Pat Buchanan bashing.

Well that's obvious to everybody but McCain and Steele. The Democrats have already bought their vote.
2 posted on 07/14/2009 6:00:47 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: dr_who

Pat, how about Sonia’s CONTEMPT for whites? Especially white males?

And Pat, how about her CONTEMPT for the United States Constitution? Like the Second Amendment, for example?


3 posted on 07/14/2009 6:03:39 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: dr_who

Everytime some Republican opens his/her mouth that NOT supporting amnesty equals the Republican Party pushing away Hispanic voters, I want to scream, “We’re dissing every law-abiding citizen of Hispanic heritage by smearing them as criminals!”

Not everyone whose ancestors came from nations south of our border supports open borders and/or amnesty for illegal aliens.

Recent immigrants, almost to an individual, will tell you that what they value most from the U.S.A., is that our police are honest. How insightful, how refreshing, can you get with that kind of statement? Law and order are what are important, not a two-tier legal system, one for illegal aliens and another for our own citizens.

Our legislators and government officials need to get with it, and start enforcing our immigration laws, not the other way around!


4 posted on 07/14/2009 6:11:49 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: dr_who

There is no such thing as an “Hispanic” vote.

There is a Catholic Hispanic vote and a Protestant Hispanic vote, two totally different things.


5 posted on 07/14/2009 6:12:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12

Works for me. There’s a Hispanic seventh day adventist church within driving distance of where I’m at, so makes sense. Might be one of Pat’s blind spots.


6 posted on 07/14/2009 6:15:23 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: dr_who
Yet here is a judge who ruled that New York state, by denying felons the vote, violated their civil rights. How so? As there are disproportionately more blacks and Hispanics in prison, denying convicts the right to vote has a disparate impact on minorities.

Why hasn't this been made at least as big a deal as the Ricci case?

7 posted on 07/14/2009 6:38:32 PM PDT by Hugin (Sarah Palin: accept no substitutes!)
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To: ansel12

Hispanic Catholics tend to be rabid Dems. Hispanics who converted to Mormonism or Evangelicalism tend to vote like their white counterparts.


8 posted on 07/14/2009 6:41:32 PM PDT by yongin
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To: dr_who

If we want the hispanic vote, or the white vote or the hunters and fishers or farmers vote we get it by strict attention to American Family values, the constitution and rule of law, closing the borders, fiscal responsibility. Etc.

Pandering to a liberal, biased, predjudiced hispanic like Sotomayor will not get us anyones vote.


9 posted on 07/14/2009 6:46:32 PM PDT by larry hagedon (born and raised and retired in Iowa.)
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To: larry hagedon

I agree. The way to build the party is not by caving in to what certain groups support. It is convincing them that our way is better.


10 posted on 07/14/2009 6:47:59 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (The first amendment doesn't end with "...as long as nobody is offended.")
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To: dr_who
Try this interesting thread.
11 posted on 07/14/2009 6:52:02 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (All gray areas are fabrications.)
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To: yongin

I have never seen the numbers on the handful that might be Mormons but the protestants do vote in the 50/50 neighborhood.

In 2004 the republicans got 56% of the nonwhite/nonblack protestant vote and in 2008 the republicans got about 48% of that vote.


12 posted on 07/14/2009 6:55:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: yongin

“Hispanic Catholics tend to be rabid Dems.”

That’s pretty much true. I say “pretty much” because I know one hispanic Catholic who is not a Dim; all the others I know (and that number is more than simply anectdotal) are Dims, and loudly and brazenly so.


13 posted on 07/14/2009 6:55:36 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Rodebrecht

Pat’s off his meds! Jew-basher! < /S >


14 posted on 07/14/2009 6:57:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: dr_who

But Rio Grande Juan McCain’s campaign proved that Hispanics are the GOP’s future.


15 posted on 07/14/2009 6:59:56 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: dr_who
Works for me. There’s a Hispanic seventh day adventist church within driving distance of where I’m at, so makes sense. Might be one of Pat’s blind spots.

The key to winning conservative votes is to work through faith, protestants keep their churches faith based and start challenging black protestant church leaders to look at the the disconnect between Christianity and putting liberals in charge.

American Catholics need to lead an old style American revival within the American Catholic church, and all of us should be glad that we don't face the challenge that Orthodox Jews do in trying to convince the non Orthodox ones to vote for American social conservatism.

16 posted on 07/14/2009 7:04:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Why is Pat so worried about voters who don’t vote republican. Would a republican voter get upset about the GOP trying to keep a radical liberal off the Supreme Court? Her race isn’t the problem, it’s her racist opinions and liberal bias that disqualifies her.


17 posted on 07/14/2009 7:07:21 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore. Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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There is no such thing as an “Hispanic” vote.

Well maybe but there is The Hispanic Caucus, LaRaza, NALEO, MEChA, LULAC, MALDEF, PRLDEF and a whole bunch more of these "no such thing" political & lobbying Hispanic groups.

18 posted on 07/14/2009 7:07:24 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: dr_who

Pandering to Hispanics was the biggest factor in the downfall of the Republican party during the W years. More pandering is not only not the answer, but will only damage the party further.


19 posted on 07/14/2009 7:17:33 PM PDT by Will88
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To: dr_who
McCain soared a dozen points when he picked Palin, who seemed to Reagan Democrats to be "one of us." They came roaring back, but left for good when McCain declared the economy fundamentally sound and rushed to D.C. to persuade Republicans to vote for a huge bank bailout opposed by Americans 100 to 1.

Huge amounts of truth in that paragraph from Pat. And McCain, or any other presidential candidate, never looked more foolish than when Juan took off for DC and even talked for two or three days of postponing the first debate when the financial crisis broke into the news.

20 posted on 07/14/2009 7:25:27 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

For the sake of argument, what did Bush do that you would call “pandering”? I didn’t follow what Dubya was doing in that bit very closely myself.


21 posted on 07/14/2009 8:03:25 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: peeps36

Amen!


22 posted on 07/14/2009 8:05:36 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: TN4Liberty

I’m not sure about building a party, but I agree that we should not cave in to whatever gets votes.

The pundits have been telling us for years that we MUST sell certain slants in order to gain power.

They may be right. They may be wrong. My prayer (granted it may go unheard) is that there are still enough freedom loving Americans who will awaken enough of their slumbering neighbors to throw out the criminals of both parties who occupy our Nation’s highest elected offices at the first opportunity.

Our Nation’s founders believed in a guidance from above. My hope is that they were not wrong.


23 posted on 07/14/2009 8:26:07 PM PDT by hotshu (Keep the Faith, that might be the only thing 0bama doesn't take from us.)
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To: dr_who
For the sake of argument, what did Bush do that you would call “pandering”? I didn’t follow what Dubya was doing in that bit very closely myself.

One of the main strategies was to give amnesty and citizenship to 12 to 20 million illegals. He lied about his motives during a debate with Kerry, then spent three of four years of his second term trying to force amnesty on a nation, and especially a Republican party that did not want it.

He only gave up after he'd been defeated twice, and had succeeded in insulting most of the party many times. Bush and Rove and some others thought pandering to and trying to buy Hispanic votes with amnesty was a winning strategy. It was a disaster. Most of the party opposed, and most all the illegal new arrivals were natural Dems. anyway.

One of the dumbest and most damaging political gambits ever. And Bush also tried to out Dem. the Dems. on some of his spending programs. His approach was very similar to the Dems: use expensive new initiatives to try and win more voters.

24 posted on 07/15/2009 4:54:47 AM PDT by Will88
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