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It looks like we won already and not just on any day, on Bastille day (0's Eligibility)
Orly Taiz Esq. ^ | 7/14/2009 | Orly Taiz Esq.

Posted on 07/14/2009 7:09:34 PM PDT by balls

The army has revoked Major Stefan Cox's orders to report to Afganistan.


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KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; certifigate; major; obama
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Jim,

The referenced article is very important news with important ramifications discussed at the link. By virtue of the fact that it is in regards to a legal matter in our open courts, the information contained at the public link is in the public domain. For some inexplicable reason the amdins keep pulling all discussion of this article. The only explanation I can think of is that they are playing amateur spooks and believe that they know what is best for national security. If this is the case, the first thing they should learn is that information is never secured through obscurity and once the information appears anywhere on the Internet, it has been compromised and they can do nothing to undo publication of the information.

1 posted on 07/14/2009 7:09:34 PM PDT by balls
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To: Jim Robinson

ping


2 posted on 07/14/2009 7:10:14 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: balls

media’s got it now

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2292757/posts


3 posted on 07/14/2009 7:14:30 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: balls

Maybe I’m missing something but it seems since BO can’t prove he is a natural born citizen then he doesn’t have the authority to rescind the Major’s order to deploy. BO has boxed himself into a corner if my understanding is correct.


4 posted on 07/14/2009 7:16:31 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: balls

I think they’re just trying to cover their asses just in case. We are a litigation happy society, after all.


5 posted on 07/14/2009 7:17:02 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: cycle of discernment

Sean Hannity reported it on his TV show tonight albeit briefly.


6 posted on 07/14/2009 7:17:39 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: balls

If Obama isn’t eligible to be Potus, he can’t issue any order either way. Is Ms Taitz going to fall for this? Or continue?


7 posted on 07/14/2009 7:17:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Man50D

I think it’s the Army that rescinded the order. But that still leaves the question of why - and whether the 0 admin. pressured them.


8 posted on 07/14/2009 7:18:12 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: cycle of discernment

That’s not the mainstream media, though. Hell will freeze over when ABCCBSNBCNPRPBS reports it.


9 posted on 07/14/2009 7:18:30 PM PDT by library user
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To: DJ MacWoW
If Obama turns out not to be eligible for POTUS, can you imagine the lawsuits he'd face from GM and Chrysler shareholders whose value was wiped out? What about Executive Orders? They'd be invalid. Cabinet appointments? Perhaps not, since the Senate confirms them. We'd have Joe Biden as President, and that frankly doesn't worry me compared to TOTUS.
10 posted on 07/14/2009 7:22:23 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: library user
If they're really as worried about Gorebal Warming as they pretend to be, this is their answer - report and Hell will freeze over, thus cooling the Earth from within.

:)

11 posted on 07/14/2009 7:23:08 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: GAB-1955

Would he (Biden) be President? - he was picked by 0.


12 posted on 07/14/2009 7:24:22 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: GAB-1955

Wouldn’t it be great!


13 posted on 07/14/2009 7:24:23 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: cycle of discernment

FOX, CBS too


14 posted on 07/14/2009 7:25:14 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: GAB-1955

He blinked. We know that he doesn’t want this to go to court. Interesting turn of events. Wonder what kind of pressure the judge is getting. The order came from the Army so Obeyme is “covered”. Does this make the suit null and void? Hmmmm.


15 posted on 07/14/2009 7:25:18 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: the anti-liberal
I think it’s the Army that rescinded the order.

They wouldn't rescind it without permission from their pseudo CIC considering the stay is about his eligibility.
16 posted on 07/14/2009 7:26:20 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D
They wouldn't rescind it without permission from their pseudo CIC considering the stay is about his eligibility.

Amen Man. Who the hell is going to tell a soldier, "don't worry son, we won't send you after all"?????

This obviously came from the top. Bookmark.

17 posted on 07/14/2009 7:27:47 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: balls

This will be very interesting to see unfold. Now that Major Cook challenged and appears to have won, I would imagine there will be a wave of similar challenges. The discipline of the military will be lost, 0bama will have to face the issue once and for all.

The scenarios get scarier and scarier with each passing day of the 0bama administration.


18 posted on 07/14/2009 7:27:50 PM PDT by Finatic ("you see kids were so much wiser after the wars")
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To: DJ MacWoW

0 doesn’t issue or revoke the orders. It the Department of the Army.


19 posted on 07/14/2009 7:28:31 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: Man50D
A fabricated catch 22. If Cook does not deploy he is following orders from the one whom he has challeneged as ineligible to order him to deploy, but without valid orders he cannot deploy. The suit needs to continue forward but may not have a standing now! The Soetoro affirmative action fraud is doing his best to avoid going to discovery in a trial.

Is it possible he has been reassigned because of his challenge needing him to be in the states during the challenge? This is all quite confusing!

20 posted on 07/14/2009 7:29:28 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: 2111USMC
"Wouldn’t it be great!"

Be careful - if obama is out, and biden also, since obama picked him, guess who the 3rd choice would be. Yup! nancy pelosi!

21 posted on 07/14/2009 7:30:44 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: balls

Do you really believe that Obeyme didn’t lean on them?


22 posted on 07/14/2009 7:30:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Man50D

Good point - and quite a quandary. The Army ought to ask for proof that 0 is even eligible to rescind the order!


23 posted on 07/14/2009 7:31:07 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: balls
And now for our musical interlude:

Bastille Day - Rush

24 posted on 07/14/2009 7:31:31 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: jackibutterfly

If I recall correctly, Obeyme and Biden being ineligible would render the election null and void. I believe that it reads that the VP would fill in until someone who is eligible can be picked. Pelosi would only become CiC in the event of a disaster and not because of a false election outcome..


25 posted on 07/14/2009 7:34:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: balls

I imagine the mods pulled the earlier articles because they included his social security number.


26 posted on 07/14/2009 7:36:28 PM PDT by Piranha (it must be comfortable over there on the wrong side of history since Obama has settled in so easily.)
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To: balls

Didn’t win anything. The military pulled the orders, so this issue will now simply disappear. The case is now moot.


27 posted on 07/14/2009 7:37:27 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: DJ MacWoW; All
According to post 29 on this thread:

Taitz said she will attend the hearing to amend the temporary restraining order to an injunction because more members of the military have joined the cause.

“We are going to be asking for release of Obama’s records because now this completely undermines the military. It revoked this order, but it can come up with another order tomorrow. It can come up with orders for other people,” she said. “Am I going to be flying around the country 1,000 times and paying the fees every time they issue an order?”

28 posted on 07/14/2009 7:37:50 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: the anti-liberal
Good point - and quite a quandary. The Army ought to ask for proof that 0 is even eligible to rescind the order!

I think what we are witnessing is one of the first telltale signs and implication of a Constitutional crisis extending beyond the military. Non military orders that normally come from the office of the President may also be challenged for the same underlying reason as this case.
29 posted on 07/14/2009 7:38:00 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Do you really believe that Obeyme didn’t lean on them?

Somebody in the chain obviously must have. Probably "in the interest of national security". /s

30 posted on 07/14/2009 7:38:48 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: the anti-liberal

Thanks!


31 posted on 07/14/2009 7:39:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: bigbob
Didn’t win anything. The military pulled the orders, so this issue will now simply disappear. The case is now moot.

On the contrary. This issue is going to fester and grow for the reason stated in post #29.
32 posted on 07/14/2009 7:39:49 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Ah yes, thanks for the reminder.

A relief, but can you imagine another election?

(maybe Fred Thompson could do a better job this time around...?)

33 posted on 07/14/2009 7:40:09 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: balls
Somebody in the chain obviously must have. Probably "in the interest of national security". /s

Yeah. That was my thought. The Army wouldn't just do this without an order, or a hint, or being leaned on. It's above their pay grade. ;-)

34 posted on 07/14/2009 7:41:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: balls; LucyT; Polarik
I forecast early in the day today that is what they would do in response. This is, again, as I said this morning, poor legal work on the part of our side.

An acting military officer is one of the best plaintiffs we could have. Forget the whine about why you don't want to follow the order--the prayer for relief should only have said we don't want to follow orders because this guy is not the President and can't issue them.

We have often and regularly had opportunities to effectively bring this to a legal head and because we don't get sufficient legal horsepower on the target, we lose.

35 posted on 07/14/2009 7:41:45 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: balls

And no, we didn’t win at all—this is a dead loss!


36 posted on 07/14/2009 7:42:36 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: the anti-liberal
A relief, but can you imagine another election?

It would be a circus but that's better than a nightmare.

37 posted on 07/14/2009 7:43:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: balls

Bump...


38 posted on 07/14/2009 7:45:25 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: David
And no, we didn’t win at all—this is a dead loss!

Not yet it's not. Others have joined the suit as per post 28. Are they going to excuse them all from duty? We'll see.

39 posted on 07/14/2009 7:46:39 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: jackibutterfly

Thanks. Now I’m gonna have nightmares.


40 posted on 07/14/2009 7:46:48 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: balls
Revoking orders to Afghanistan does not end this case. An order for his to cross the street and buy a pack of gum raises exactly the same legal issue.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Judge Sonia Sotomayor: Liar?"

41 posted on 07/14/2009 7:46:54 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: David

I don’t think you understand. Any serviceman can now challenge his orders if he doesn’t want to go to Afganistan.


42 posted on 07/14/2009 7:46:58 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It would be an incredible circus - maybe even enough to temporarily revive some ailing newspapers. They should jump on this bandwagon! ;)


43 posted on 07/14/2009 7:47:47 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: the anti-liberal
maybe even enough to temporarily revive some ailing newspapers. They should jump on this bandwagon! ;)

They won't. They're socialists and Obeyme's their prince.

44 posted on 07/14/2009 7:49:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You may be right (well, you’re right - they are socialist, and 0 is their prince) - but there are signs of discontent, especially over the economy. Cracks are starting to appear, and a big story like 0’s dethronement will be hard to ignore.


45 posted on 07/14/2009 7:53:55 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: balls

Just because they rescinded his orders, couldn’t he still be court-marshaled for refusing the first orders?


46 posted on 07/14/2009 7:57:37 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: the anti-liberal

They would spin it as he was driven from office, racism, blah blah.


47 posted on 07/14/2009 7:59:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: balls
I don’t think you understand. Any serviceman can now challenge his orders if he doesn’t want to go to Afganistan.

Probably true.

Not easy if you are professional military. But doable--maybe.

At present, I am inclined to bet they continue to play the game on this side of the table--that is, they will continue to let people off the deployment. We will see how long that lasts.

I will also say that I am personally a little concerned because this is the eighth or ninth time I write here what they will do next and they do it within twenty-four hours.

48 posted on 07/14/2009 8:01:48 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: David
I will also say that I am personally a little concerned because this is the eighth or ninth time I write here what they will do next and they do it within twenty-four hours.

Because they're reading your posts?

49 posted on 07/14/2009 8:03:44 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: murron

He didn’t refuse the orders, he simply inquired as to their legitimacy.


50 posted on 07/14/2009 8:05:40 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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