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Bombshell: Orders revoked for soldier challenging prez
Drudge Report, WorldNetDaily ^ | 7/15/09 | Chelsea Schilling and Joe Kovacs

Posted on 07/15/2009 5:37:44 AM PDT by buggy02

A U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida scheduled to report for deployment to Afghanistan within days has had his military orders revoked after arguing he should not be required to serve under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office. His attorney, Orly Taitz, confirmed to WND the military has rescinded his impending deployment orders. "We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!" She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. No reasons – just revoked."

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The Major says: "[Then] any order coming out of the presidency or his chain of command is illegal. Should I deploy, I would essentially be following an illegal [order]. If I happened to be captured by the enemy in a foreign land, I would not be privy to the Geneva Convention protections," he said.
1 posted on 07/15/2009 5:37:44 AM PDT by buggy02
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To: buggy02

Wow!!!! This is big


2 posted on 07/15/2009 5:41:57 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: buggy02

This story has become very interesting in the past 24 hours, yet is being completely ignored by the MSM.


4 posted on 07/15/2009 5:43:12 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Is this what they call a “smoking-gun”?


5 posted on 07/15/2009 5:43:14 AM PDT by Tin Man Tex
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To: buggy02
His next deployment will probably be Ft. Leavenworth.
6 posted on 07/15/2009 5:43:44 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

I was about to say, they’re probably revoking his orders because his next ones will be to report to his court martial.

}:-)4


7 posted on 07/15/2009 5:45:02 AM PDT by Moose4 (I took my car in for an alignment. Now my front end is chaotic evil.)
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To: Tin Man Tex
Is this what they call a “smoking-gun”?

It is more like that character in "The Princess Bride" who squared for a duel, then turned and ran away.

8 posted on 07/15/2009 5:46:14 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Hatred has found its host organism in liberals)
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To: Dixie Yooper

How dare he use proper legal channels to question legality. Who does this major think he is


9 posted on 07/15/2009 5:47:54 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Moose4

I hope this isn’t bad news for the Major, but I have a very bad feeling about this.


10 posted on 07/15/2009 5:48:49 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Dixie Yooper

or some weather station in Alaska, at the very least.


11 posted on 07/15/2009 5:48:55 AM PDT by fortunate sun (What's fat, ugly, lives in Alaska and makes Grendel's mother smell like roses? Linda Kellen Biegel)
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To: fortunate sun

Well, maybe he could visit Our Sarah!!!


12 posted on 07/15/2009 5:50:41 AM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Mexico-Beirut with tacos!"--Dr. Zoidberg)
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To: sam_paine; tcrlaf

Looks like another thread started.

What other of our brave military men and women will be seeking the same revoke of orders?

With the new engagement policies in Afghanistan, we might see a lot more of this.

Okay 0 what you going to do next to undermine our country and our military?


13 posted on 07/15/2009 5:50:41 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Correct, you are.


14 posted on 07/15/2009 5:51:16 AM PDT by stormer
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To: buggy02

What it means is that this guy’s career is ovuh.


15 posted on 07/15/2009 5:52:08 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: buggy02
HMMMMMMMMMMMM
Intersting to say the least.
16 posted on 07/15/2009 5:55:13 AM PDT by DeaconRed (BO STINKS)
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To: buggy02

Don’t be surprised if the government is getting ready for a court martial.......they will be compelled t o send a message.


17 posted on 07/15/2009 5:55:26 AM PDT by kenmcg (THE)
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To: Moose4; All
"I was about to say, they’re probably revoking his orders because his next ones will be to report to his court martial."

I'm afraid you're right. I very much doubt that this will end well for the Major and his career, if he ever had one, is, for all intents and purposes, over

18 posted on 07/15/2009 5:55:38 AM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental illness)
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To: buggy02
This is a stupid headline. What is so "shocking".

This officer's career is over and he'll either face multiple articles of UCMJ like #'s relating to

like article 88, 117, or conduct unbecoming...or just be allowed to resign his commission if they don't want a show "trial".

19 posted on 07/15/2009 5:56:05 AM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
I wonder how many more will follow? With obama’s hate for the military, I have to ask, is this a way to keep the heat off his birth certificate.
20 posted on 07/15/2009 5:57:20 AM PDT by odin2008 (Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
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To: buggy02
So what happens to Maj Cook now?

I'm glad he 'won'. Yet, I am a bit concerned that it was so easy...something's not right.

Or, did he actually do what everyone else was afraid to do and that's why it was so easy?

God Bless him and Protect him.

21 posted on 07/15/2009 5:57:29 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: VicVega

Causing chaos in the chain of command in the military could very well be a major step FORWARD in 0bama’s overall plan to destroy the country.


22 posted on 07/15/2009 5:58:06 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: odin2008

This is too obviously an admission that
0bama couldn’t stand the light of discovery
in a court challenge.

I think something else is afoot.


23 posted on 07/15/2009 5:59:36 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: buggy02

He now has no “Standing”


24 posted on 07/15/2009 6:00:13 AM PDT by drumr337 (I voted 4 Palin)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

“Yet, I am a bit concerned that it was so easy”

It seems they’re willing to do just about anything to avoid having to provide proof of the issue.


25 posted on 07/15/2009 6:00:37 AM PDT by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: VicVega
What other of our brave military men and women will be seeking the same revoke of orders?

One person is just a ripple, but if it turned into dozens or hundreds, it would become a disaster.

The military blinked on this one. It won't help morale one little bit if they continue to blink if more service people take this course.

All Obama needs to do is show his valid birth certificate and all this will go away.

26 posted on 07/15/2009 6:02:24 AM PDT by randita
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To: BornToBeAmerican

Nar-a-peep from State-Run-Media.


27 posted on 07/15/2009 6:02:25 AM PDT by opaque soul (Condensing gas to solid state, truth the soul does make opaque.)
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To: buggy02

More on this here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2292848/posts


28 posted on 07/15/2009 6:02:48 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: MrB

What I’m wondering is if someone higher up in the military can now claim that they need to know if Obama is legally eligible as it is now affecting the military. Seems to me that this case and subsequent revocation move would give someone in the military hierarchy the standing to ask the requisite questions. I mean, how can they make plans for any military actions if Obama’s presidency is in question?


29 posted on 07/15/2009 6:03:09 AM PDT by Marty
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To: buggy02

Therefore, EVERY member of the military should challenge Zero.


30 posted on 07/15/2009 6:03:15 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: buggy02

They revoked the order because that would make a legal challenge “moot” and therefore would not be heard by any court.


31 posted on 07/15/2009 6:03:42 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Moose4

Yeah. Dr. Taitz needs to go back to her dental practice and stop trying to play lawyer.

This announcement is not necessarily “a win.”


32 posted on 07/15/2009 6:04:36 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: erman
According to the claim, “Plaintiff submits that it is implicit though not expressly stated that an officer is and should be subject to court-martial, because he will be derelict in the performance of his duties, if he does not inquire as to the lawfulness, the legality, the legitimacy of the orders which he has received, whether those orders are specific or general.”

What is “shocking” is they found a Judge that will listen to the argument.

33 posted on 07/15/2009 6:05:45 AM PDT by buggy02 (Never take life seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway.)
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To: davisfh

You’re all being too narrow on this. If he is court marshalled - do you all not think there will be a backlash that has potential to snowball against the Zero Regime?

Also, he could not be court marshalled legally under a “Commander In Chief” who is not eligible for POTUS.

They did handle this wrong tho. They should have had a large number of soldiers doing this all at the same time under the same lawsuit. Power in numbers.

For this to have any effect - it will require at least hundreds to come together and proceed legally.


34 posted on 07/15/2009 6:05:58 AM PDT by 2Wheels
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To: davisfh

if I understand the legal theory correctly, in order to bring a case before the courts, you have to allege an actual or potential harm.

The Major’s case is based on him receiving orders to deploy and his claim they lack legal authority because President Obama is unqualified to hold office.

By cancelling his orders, the Army is removing the basis for his case. No orders, no case.

IMO, the major won’t receive any more orders. Issuing him orders would simply reopen the issue because all orders are issued through powers ultimately deriving from the President as Commander in Chief.

You are right that his career is over. But it was over the moment his lawyers filed the case and he knew it.


35 posted on 07/15/2009 6:06:19 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: kenmcg
Don’t be surprised if the government is getting ready for a court martial.......they will be compelled to send a message.

The problem with a court martial is that doing so gives tools for compulsion to the accused. It'd be interesting if he were to subpoena the documents in question.

36 posted on 07/15/2009 6:06:29 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: buggy02; All
The orders were revoked to moot the case and deprive Major Cook of standing to sue. However, there might be a way for him to keep the case going. Anybody who's ever been in the military knows that all personnel are at the mercy of orders that can send them anywhere, anytime. Those which are revoked can be reinstated and those which are reinstated can be revoked. The revocation of the orders itself gives no reason(s) for the action; full discovery is essential to see why it was done and what assurance Major Cook has, if any, that the orders won't be reinstated as soon as the suit is dismissed as allegedly moot. Thus, Major Cook could argue the case is not moot and he still has standing because his orders can be reinstated any time DOD decides to reinstate them unless there is further clarification of the reasons for their rescission and the circumstances of their possible reinstatement.

Another point is that this action by DOD opens the floodgates for every other military and naval person who wants not to serve in any location to raise the same objection and pressure DOD into rescinding his or her orders, an unacceptable situation that can only be resolved by allowing the case to go forward.

37 posted on 07/15/2009 6:06:38 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: VicVega; tcrlaf; Dixie Yooper; DieHard the Hunter; Moose4
they’re probably revoking his orders because his next ones will be to report to his court martial.

Yikes. Probably so.

Never attribute a pause in the military paperwork to victory, it's probably just changing the bureaucratic gears into low to crush you with more power.

38 posted on 07/15/2009 6:07:45 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: libstripper

I will bet this soldier is now going to be forced a conscientious objector discharge.


39 posted on 07/15/2009 6:07:51 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Captain Rhino

But...
Anyone else with a like mind can also challenge an order.

A military cannot function without orders being issued.

But, maybe this was 0bama’s goal anyway.


40 posted on 07/15/2009 6:09:01 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I'm glad he 'won'.

You're right to put 'win' parenthetically. He didn't win anything. The mildly good news is he didn't 'lose' .... yet.

I dearly love Dr. Lawyer Taitz, but her consistent record of procedural errors, combined with her penchant for hyperbole and questionable publicity does not make her the attorney of choice in this matter.

This has been building for a few months now, giving Team Obama ample time to craft, if not an ironclad legal defense, a campaign of harrassment and vilification that will cause Major Cook enough problems to last a lifetime.

I join you in praying that

God Bless him and Protect him.

41 posted on 07/15/2009 6:09:02 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Just unpatriotic.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; roaddog727
So what happens to Maj Cook now?

Why not just ask him?

42 posted on 07/15/2009 6:10:13 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: buggy02

It will take the U.S. military to save us here at home. Defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Well done.


43 posted on 07/15/2009 6:10:32 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: drumr337

Correct, now he has no standing, so the issue can be dropped again by the court.


44 posted on 07/15/2009 6:10:51 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Dixie Yooper

Or a single man Post on the Sahara Desert.


45 posted on 07/15/2009 6:10:51 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("When you strike one American, you strike us all" ( President George W. Bush))
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To: Nipfan

That makes sense. Thanks.


46 posted on 07/15/2009 6:11:40 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: buggy02; All

Interesting post/thread. Thanks.


47 posted on 07/15/2009 6:17:03 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: buggy02; DieHard the Hunter; BornToBeAmerican; WakeUpAndVote; Rational Thought; Tin Man Tex; ...
How do we reconcile this action with the objectors who refused their duty claiming that Bush was selected-not-elected, or that Iraq was an illegal war? Peter Brown, Ehren Watada, etc

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=3455

48 posted on 07/15/2009 6:17:06 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: erman
He probably is willing to live with whatever the consequences since his goal was undoubtedly to expose the illegitimacy of the Obama reign of power.
49 posted on 07/15/2009 6:17:06 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: buggy02

Or maybe the Army just doesn’t want this guy commanding troops in the field. I sure wouldn’t want him as my commanding officer under the circumstances.


50 posted on 07/15/2009 6:18:40 AM PDT by Hugin (Sarah Palin: accept no substitutes!)
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