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Houston Company Makes Gasoline out of Lawn Waste (We may have a true winner here)
DailyTech ^ | July 14, 2009 10:56 AM | Jason Mick

Posted on 07/15/2009 7:14:27 AM PDT by Freeport

Biofuels are a controversial topic. Some support switching to using natural gas (primarily methane), a substance that is in great abundance in America. Others, particularly corn farmers and the U.S. Department of Agriculture suggest switching to an ethanol-based economy. Still others advocate using sugar cane in more limited ethanol or biodiesel deployments.

All of these approaches, though, share fundamental inefficiencies -- they require a car engine redesign to full take advantage of them. Modern dual mode vehicles can lose 15 percent or more efficiency.

Houston, Texas-based Terrabon believes they have the answer. They have refined and improved on a Texas A&M University acid fermentation called MixAlco, which can convert "anything that rots" (including lawn waste) into a gasoline-like substance. The company has built a $3.5M USD Energy Independence I facility to test the process. Malcolm McNeill, Terrabon’s chief financial officer states, "One of the reasons we built this was to find out what we didn’t know."

By the end of the summer the facility will be using chopped sorghum (a fast growing plant), to produce 300 gallons per day (7.14 barrels of gas). While that might not seem like much, that's over 2,500 barrels of gasoline over the next year.

Terrabon plans to soon open a larger plant in Port Arthur, Texas, with the help of San Antonio’s Valero Energy Corp. The company believes it can produce $1.75/gallon gas at the facility.

The company's plans are boosted by the 2007 Energy Law, signed by President Bush, which promises 36 billion gallons of biofuels to be used by 2022. Oil from algae and processes like Terrabon's seems the most promising mid-term solution (along with cellulosic ethanol). However, the company still faces tough challenges ahead as the ethanol industry is the favorite child of the biofuels world...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytech.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: biofuel; gasoline; price
So here's a possible process that we can directly generate an heptane / isooctane (gasoline) mixture directly from a vat of cellulosic...

Bring on the crab grass!

1 posted on 07/15/2009 7:14:27 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: Freeport

Too much potential. Zero will shut it down.


2 posted on 07/15/2009 7:18:13 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Freeport

Put some kudzu in your tank! (talk about your “renewable resources”...)


3 posted on 07/15/2009 7:19:13 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Freeport

Do they have a comparison of the fuel created to fuel used (transporting the lawn waste)?

Note: I’m not being a stick in the mud, but rather trying to be reasonably sceptical.


4 posted on 07/15/2009 7:21:38 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: Freeport
Someone else made the same claim about turkey guts six years ago.

Anything Into Oil.

Appears to have gone nowhere.

5 posted on 07/15/2009 7:22:14 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Freeport

Gig’em Ags! ...


6 posted on 07/15/2009 7:22:56 AM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Freeport

Unless they grow their vegetation on site, it is too expensive to drive people’s yards clippings to their refinery and make a profit.


7 posted on 07/15/2009 7:23:52 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Freeport

Remember, when something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

Remember, ethanol was going to save the world...


8 posted on 07/15/2009 7:24:11 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: MortMan

Good point.

But think of it the other way around. Instead of trucking the current gasoline process anywhere from 10 - several hundred miles by truck, The local converter plant is 5 - 10 miles away.

Which just happens to be the typical range between most towns east of the Mississippi...


9 posted on 07/15/2009 7:25:44 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: Freeport

I understand that cow manure can be used to produce methane. Does that apply to the bull variety too? if so, all we have to do is stand by the doors of both houses of congress and the White House with shovels and our energy problem is solved.


10 posted on 07/15/2009 7:25:55 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Freeport
Bring on the crab grass!

I could make a fortune as a crab grass supplier.

11 posted on 07/15/2009 7:26:57 AM PDT by A message (3 years 6 months 5 days until Jim Thompson is President)
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To: Freeport

Crab grass? Sorghum? Use the Kudzu, please!!


12 posted on 07/15/2009 7:27:46 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: Charles Martel

LOL just saw your post, GMTA!


13 posted on 07/15/2009 7:28:42 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: Freeport

Forget about it - if there’s any emission out of the tailpipe other than distilled water, the environuts will kill it before it even gets off the ground.


14 posted on 07/15/2009 7:29:43 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (When you put Democrats in charge, stupid things happen)
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To: Freeport

The comments at the site are a must-read LOL


15 posted on 07/15/2009 7:30:49 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: Freeport
A follow up: Terrabon MixAlco

From the site:

Through an advanced bio-refining technology, MixAlco converts materials such as municipal solid waste, sewage sludge, forest product residues and non-edible energy crops into a wide array of chemicals and secondary alcohols that can be further refined through separate, well-established processes to produce renewable gasoline, jet fuel or diesel. The gasoline produced through the MixAlco technology is not ethanol. In fact, it has a higher energy value than ethanol and can be blended directly with gasoline produced from hydrocarbons.

16 posted on 07/15/2009 7:32:02 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: crusty old prospector

At least in the cities, lawn wastes are already being transported as so many people don’t compost.


17 posted on 07/15/2009 7:34:56 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Freeport

“Lawn waste” ?

Why would you not be mulching to replenish your soil?
Everything should already be going back.


18 posted on 07/15/2009 7:34:56 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Freeport

Historically speaking, NIMBY will prevent having such a distributed network of plants.

I hope I’m wrong, but that’s the precedent.


19 posted on 07/15/2009 7:36:44 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: Freeport

Back to burning trees for fuel! Brilliant!


20 posted on 07/15/2009 7:38:11 AM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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To: crusty old prospector

“Unless they grow their vegetation on site, it is too expensive to drive people’s yards clippings to their refinery and make a profit.”

This looks to me like the critical hole in this type of fuel source.
Here in the Midwest, there are a lot of cornstalks available in the fall. But they have to be baled and hauled to a plant somewhere.
Then you have to dispose of the spent corn stalks after they have been processed and fermented.


21 posted on 07/15/2009 7:38:53 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: DuncanWaring

No, it works. People just complained about the smell and local regulators keep preventing expansion.

The most creative use of that technology would be to rid a city of solid waste in order to produce oil, minerals and distilled water. Get rid of sewage and produce power? A win on both accounts.

But it will take more time to get it working. This company is a big red flag for all of those “green” companies who have an idea which works, but not at a commercial level yet.

Even with a working, profitable site, Changing World Technologies still hasn’t been able to get a second site approved and built in the U.S.


22 posted on 07/15/2009 7:44:23 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: crusty old prospector
"Unless they grow their vegetation on site, it is too expensive to drive people’s yards clippings to their refinery and make a profit."

You've got it backwards. You put the refinery where the city landfill is. I've often wondered why big cities with major garbage disposal problems weren't gasifying the waste. There is a LOT of fuel value in "trash".

23 posted on 07/15/2009 7:49:10 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Freeport

So, now instead of paying my lawn guy to mow my lawn, he will pay me for the grass and sell it to Valero.


24 posted on 07/15/2009 7:49:37 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( I hate all politicians. Including republicans.)
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To: Freeport

How about let’s not burn up a world food source anymore.

“Can’t you just picture God in heaven, looking down on us? He must be saying, “Listen, you losers. I put your energy IN the ground, so it doesn’t bother anyone. I put it UNDER the coasts, so it’s out of the way. I hid some of it BENEATH the ice, so I’d know Sarah would keep an eye on it. I also put it INSIDE your rocks, so even if you missed My first 9302 clues, at least you would break your neck on it, while walking through the parks. I figured a few broken bones might get your attention. But no...........And then (as a last resort) I gave you the recipe for nuclear power, and provided the ingredients to MAKE it! You people are hopeless. Lots of luck.”

Any of these turkeys ever heard of switchgrass?


25 posted on 07/15/2009 7:49:58 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: crusty old prospector

They’ll just mandate everyone must bag their clippings and set them out for pick up on garbage day. The expense doesn’t matter, they’ll just pass it along to the taxpayer.


26 posted on 07/15/2009 7:52:37 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: visualops
GMTA!

Yep, but you must admit that it *does* seem kinda obvious. Hell, the stuff is covering huge portions of the southern states. Barns, billboards, fences, slow-moving cows - all tangled in that green mess.

If they won't process it into fuel, there's an alternative. According to Alton Brown, the leaves are edible. Just don't pick them from near a roadway where herbicide may have been sprayed (as if anything short of Agent Orange would make kudzu flinch). Something to keep in mind, if times turn really tough.

27 posted on 07/15/2009 7:57:36 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Freeport

Hey, can I get a home distillery so that I can make my own gas? I know we can’t but wouldn’t that just pi** a whole bunch of liberals off if someone came up with a way to make gas at home out of lawn clippings? I bet inside of two weeks we would see a bill making growing a lawn illegal!


28 posted on 07/15/2009 8:15:07 AM PDT by calex59
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To: TexGuy
Gig’em Ags! ...

Whoop!

29 posted on 07/15/2009 8:20:14 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: Charles Martel

Actually, a few years ago someone produced a cook book for Kudzu. It had jams, jellies, sauces, salads, etc. It might could still be found online.


30 posted on 07/15/2009 8:23:17 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (2nd Tim. 2:15, Eph. 2:8,9, 1st Cor. 15:1-4)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I had heard that CWT’s problem was in turning a profit, even at the high prices for petroleum over the last few years.

Apparently those who produced the waste that became CWT’s feedstock jacked up their price once they saw something useful could be done with it.

Made no sense; there’s lots of waste that currently has to be thrown away - salmonella-contaminated recalled food, plastic water bottles, pine-beetle-killed trees, CAFO manure, and so on.


31 posted on 07/15/2009 8:24:44 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Freeport

Yeah right! Just like the processes that promised to make diesel out of turkey crap, saw grass, and other bio-wastes, this one will not pan out either. These are all net energy losers and therefore will always be nore expensive to oil based products. If they truly lived up to their promises, we’d be independent of foreign oil


32 posted on 07/15/2009 8:36:53 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: nuke rocketeer
Yeah right! Just like the processes that promised to make diesel out of turkey crap, saw grass, and other bio-wastes, this one will not pan out either. These are all net energy losers and therefore will always be nore expensive to oil based products. If they truly lived up to their promises, we’d be independent of foreign oil...

Heheh, pretty soon we'll be hearing about robots that find and process biowastes. In fact, they will probably be military robots that operate on the battlefield. And, BTW, since they are battlefield robots, they will probably "utilize" animal and human corpses, since there will be so much of that on the battlefield..

Yuck!

Who would ever have dreamed about that? I mean, unless you were a Sci-Fi movie writer or producer or something. Now THAT is so unrealistic....(shudder) Imagine if THOSE robots went wacky.....Wow!!

33 posted on 07/15/2009 8:55:17 AM PDT by China Clipper (My favorite animals usually are found next to the rice on my plate.)
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To: Rebelbase; Wonder Warthog; HereInTheHeartland; Elderberry

But what about all of the evil fertilizer and pesticide residues in the clippings? We will all have to have “organic” yards. Because of fire ants, my yard would be classified as a Superfund site.


34 posted on 07/15/2009 8:58:59 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

Nah,the ants in grass clippings provide higher octane.


35 posted on 07/15/2009 9:15:26 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: Freeport

This is a development of the MixAlco process of anaerobic fermentation to generate mixed primary and secondary alcohols. Further processing apparently converts them to something similar to conventional gasoline.


36 posted on 07/15/2009 9:16:43 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rebelbase

No, I am talking about all of the pesticides and Round-up to kill crab grass, etc.....


37 posted on 07/15/2009 9:17:17 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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"But what about all of the evil fertilizer and pesticide residues in the clippings?"

Fertilizer is just another oxidant, and pesticide residues are just more carbon in a gasifier. Zero problem from either.

38 posted on 07/15/2009 9:19:28 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: DuncanWaring
Someone else made the same claim about turkey guts six years ago. Anything Into Oil. Appears to have gone nowhere.

Actually, the process works. The issues they ran into were:

1) Environmental -- right or wrong, local residents complained about foul (no pun intedned) odors coming from the plant, and

2) Cost -- they had expected in the wake of "mad cow" issues that the feedstock would essentially be waste that would not cost them anything, but restrictions on feeding animal parts back to animals never happened. Additionally, they were never able to get the language changed that would have allowed them to claim biofuel tax credits.

39 posted on 07/15/2009 9:19:52 AM PDT by kevkrom
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The company believes it can produce $1.75/gallon gas at the facility.,

Is that with or without taxes ???

40 posted on 07/15/2009 9:23:15 AM PDT by Mopp4
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To: Mopp4

bttt


41 posted on 07/15/2009 9:25:19 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Charles Martel

That’s how the crap got here.
The Japanese cultivate and eat it like spinach.
When you see it climbing every telephone pole and swarming over fields like a jungle, it’s kinda hard to work up an appetite though.


42 posted on 07/15/2009 10:08:35 AM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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To: Freeport

We got a guy in Webster, TX makin fuel out of cooking oil from fast food joints.

Only prolem is that dogs keep chasing the cars because of the smell of hamburgers that wafts behind them.

He’ was hoping that changing to old oil from fish joints like Long John Silvers would take care of the problem, but now its cats on the fast track.


43 posted on 07/15/2009 10:08:38 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: Freeport
'Houston Company Makes Gasoline out of Lawn Waste'

Whoop-dee-do. No Big deal.

I made a Cold Fusion Reactor out of an old Bookcase, some Bicycle parts, an Alternator from a '77 Chevy Monza Mirage (305 V8), a Starter Solenoid from a '68 Buick, and a lot of Electrical Tape.

The Cold Fusion Reactor was the only solution to generating the 1.21 gigawatts of power required for the Flux Capacitor I made so I can Time Travel. (who says Necessity isn't the Mother of Invention?)

Another upside of having the Reactor is I won't have to worry about recharging the new Gubmint Motors Electric Clown Cars that'll be mandatory in a couple years.

44 posted on 07/15/2009 10:30:38 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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