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What radio and TV talk show hosts are pushing the Obama Birth Certificate issue?
July 16, 2009

Posted on 07/16/2009 12:48:54 PM PDT by EveningStar

What radio and TV talk show hosts are pushing the Obama Birth Certificate issue?

I'm not aware of any.


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1 posted on 07/16/2009 12:48:54 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Bill Cunningham lets callers rant about it but he won't touch it himself. Hannity mentions it once in a while. That's all I can think of.
2 posted on 07/16/2009 12:51:05 PM PDT by exist
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To: EveningStar

Can someone explain to me why a Certificate of Live Birth stating his location of birth as Hawaii doesn’t prove he was born there?


3 posted on 07/16/2009 12:51:32 PM PDT by villagerjoel (1. Implement socialist policies 2. ??? 3. Heaven on earth)
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To: villagerjoel

I’m not a birther. I think the issue is ridiculous.


4 posted on 07/16/2009 12:53:21 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: exist

I read on FR that Lou Dobbs talked about it yesterday on his radio show and so did (beleive it or not) Lynn Samuels on her satellite show. I also read that Steve Malsberg was going to talk about it on his WOR radio program today.


5 posted on 07/16/2009 12:53:24 PM PDT by Batman11 (Chicago, Land of Lincoln who freed the slaves and Land of Obama who enslaved the free.)
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To: EveningStar

Rush mentioned it only to say he really doesn’t care to go down that road. Don’t know why they all look at it that way.


6 posted on 07/16/2009 12:53:36 PM PDT by In God I trust
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To: villagerjoel
Because it just means a baby was born there on that date.
7 posted on 07/16/2009 12:53:39 PM PDT by library user
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To: EveningStar
Steve Malzberg in NYC on radio station WOR has been talking about it for quite some time. Today he is scheduled to have Orly Taitz and Maj. Cook on his show. WOR streams the show so anyone can listen anywhere.

ML/NJ

8 posted on 07/16/2009 12:54:46 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: EveningStar

Are you lonely?


9 posted on 07/16/2009 12:55:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: villagerjoel

10 posted on 07/16/2009 12:56:14 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cripplecreek

I’m not a birther. Check my previous posts. I’ve long contended that no respected commentator is pushing this.

I’m giving people a chance to prove me wrong.


11 posted on 07/16/2009 12:59:51 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: In God I trust
Don’t know why they all look at it that way.

Because they don't want to be viewed as crackpots? :)

12 posted on 07/16/2009 1:01:43 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: villagerjoel
Can someone explain to me why a Certificate of Live Birth stating his location of birth as Hawaii doesn’t prove he was born there?

Besides the fact that anyone can apply, or could have applied, for such a document without having been born in Hawaii, there is some question about the authenticity of the document that has been circulated on the internet. Add to this the fact that no government agency that requires a birth certificate will accept a jpeg image of one in place of a physical document certified by some government agency.

ML/NJ

13 posted on 07/16/2009 1:02:01 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: EveningStar

“I’m not a birther. I think the issue is ridiculous.”

Ok, than why would someone spend reportedly hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to keep their BC sealed if they had nothing to hide, when they could provide one for $10?


14 posted on 07/16/2009 1:02:14 PM PDT by Batman11 (Chicago, Land of Lincoln who freed the slaves and Land of Obama who enslaved the free.)
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To: villagerjoel
A certificate of live birth pretty much only means that you exist. It says Hawaii because that is where they say he received it. A Birth Certificate shows where you were actually born, which hospital you were in, has the delivering doctors signature and has a raised seal on it. It's a very important issue if you care about our constitution being followed properly and if you care that the person trying to "Change" America is not legally allowed to be president.
15 posted on 07/16/2009 1:04:06 PM PDT by Mind Freed ("Every man has the right to be a fool 5 minutes a day. Wisdom is not exceeding the limit.")
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To: EveningStar

Actually, Mark Levin, hardly a crackpot, has made reference to it from time to time. Doesn’t harp on it, just a snide little crack from time to time.

Brian Sussman, on KSFO San Francisco, brings it up all the time.


16 posted on 07/16/2009 1:05:26 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: villagerjoel

You’re focusing too much attention on where he was born, rather than the conditions of his birth.
You could obtain a Certicate of Live Birth for some time after the date of birth, from the State.
The more important fact is that his father was a British Subject, and conferred that status on any children.
Also, his mother was too young to confer status to him, as she was not of the age of majority for the statutory period.
I don’t care if he was born in Hawaii, he is not a “Natural Born Citizen”.
Also the chances are he was not a citizen after his mother moved to Indonesia, as it would have been changed in accordance to their laws.


17 posted on 07/16/2009 1:06:52 PM PDT by gigster
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To: In God I trust

He also once made a joke about how the similarity between Obama and God is that neither has a birth certificate.


18 posted on 07/16/2009 1:07:27 PM PDT by Dan Middleton
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To: EveningStar

You know, FR sure has filled up with a bunch of name callers. Just because you don’t agree with us on this subject doesn’t mean we are a bunch of crack pots. I don’t think the BC thing will go anywhere but I am willing to keep an eye on it. You don’t want to be a part why get involved in these threads? Good day to you.


19 posted on 07/16/2009 1:08:01 PM PDT by In God I trust
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To: villagerjoel

In Barry’s day, a baby could be born in any country and registered for “certificate”.
We “birthers” want the vault copy which is much more detailed. Hawaii officials were very precise when they said they had his original and it was in order. They did not say and legally can’t say if obama is a citizen much less a natural born citizen.

Also, generally birthers want to see any other records that support obama’s elegibility for office.


20 posted on 07/16/2009 1:08:22 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: EveningStar

Not sure why you care if you’re so sure there’s nothing to it, but here you go. Fresh fodder from Lou Dobbs:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2293858/posts


21 posted on 07/16/2009 1:09:09 PM PDT by Faith
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To: EveningStar

Bud Hedinger in Orlando was on it hard on Monday. 540 AM. I was shocked, but it was that Major that got his deployment revoked that got him going. Before that he wouldn’t touch it.


22 posted on 07/16/2009 1:10:36 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: EveningStar

“I’m not a birther. I think the issue is ridiculous”

Yeah, the Army is know for giving wishy-washy orders for deployment then revoking them with the slightest provocation without retribution. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Oops there was retribution someone got fired. Nothing to see here. Move along.


23 posted on 07/16/2009 1:16:38 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: villagerjoel

A Certificate of Live Birth in the state of Hawaii is not a document that proves you were born in Hawaii.

It is a method for any other adult relative to go into the department of Health and record that a member of their family was born-—but only that.

It is not a record of your being born in the USA or in Hawaii.

Maya Soetero- Nobama’s half-sister was born in Indonesia, and SHE has a Certificate of Live Birth. She has admitted that she was born in Indonesia, I think in Jakarta. ( BTW- NObama has named his half-sister for a ‘commission’ and I don’t know know what that ‘commission’ is supposed to be all about.)

I am clueless as to why such a confusing document was EVER allowed in Hawaii in the first place, but I suspect that it’s origin goes back to before Hawaii was made a full-fledged state of the United States.
A COLB is NOT a birth certificate. What you and I have is a BIRTH CERTIFICATE.


24 posted on 07/16/2009 1:17:26 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Batman11

Because the father’s name *may* be something *other* than Barack Obama Sr.


25 posted on 07/16/2009 1:18:06 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: library user

Because it just means a baby was born there on that date.”

I don’t think so.

It just states that a person who might have been a family member in Hawaii had a child, and the birth of that child is being recorded.
The place, time, doctor, attending nurses, hospital, etc, are not on a COLB.


26 posted on 07/16/2009 1:19:12 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
Have checked out Polarik's latest info? ;)

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

27 posted on 07/16/2009 1:23:25 PM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: bassmaner

“Because the father’s name *may* be something *other* than Barack Obama Sr”

I understand that and there may be other information on President Transparency’s BC, aside from proving that he is not a natural born citizen, that would be embarassing to him. I was trying to make the point to the poster, who said that this issue is ridiculous, that noone would spend a significant amount of money to keep their BC under wraps unless they had something to hide.


28 posted on 07/16/2009 1:24:26 PM PDT by Batman11 (Chicago, Land of Lincoln who freed the slaves and Land of Obama who enslaved the free.)
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To: EveningStar

Crackpots generally have nothing to base their theories on. After witnessing all the abnormalities involved in this, especially the amount of money obama has spent fighting it, I have reached the belief there IS something to it. What that “it” is I don’t know yet, but it does deserve vigilance and investigation does it not?
As for Hannity and Rush etc. I guarantee you they have some operatives checking this out.
The fact is this person (obama) has been the most secretive and cloaked individual many of us have ever witnessed in the political spectrum. We know very little about him and we get all kinds of conflicting reports of his past from a wide variety of individuals. I as an investor in my country expect transparency NOT subterfuge.
I believe most people (even our own) so fear what the ramifications of an usurper mean that they stick their head in the sand.
Of course this could be about hiding something embarassing as well or he could just be a complete idiot that loves throwing money away on legal fees (sarc/)


29 posted on 07/16/2009 1:24:56 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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To: bassmaner

Because the father’s name *may* be something *other* than Barack Obama Sr’

Since Stanley Ann was apparently heavily involved in the 60’s free love anti-establishment activities, there could be any name on that COLB.

NObama was born into a totally screwed up family, with Communist influences all around them and him.

His father hated the British for their control of Kenya. Those kinds of vitriol just don’t get softened by time.

Pal Bill Ayers and his spouse and Rev Wright were no help. Nobama married a woman who has “never been pround of America”.

These people trash at every opportunity the country that gave them an education, and more status than they are showing that they deserve.


30 posted on 07/16/2009 1:25:25 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: EveningStar

The Maj. Cook win is the lead story on Mike Huckabee’s “Huckabee Report” radio feature this afternoon.


31 posted on 07/16/2009 1:35:35 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: library user; villagerjoel

Doesn’t even mean they were born in Hawaii and it is not a true birth certificate. RE: the COLB, it’s been proven to be a poor fake in spite of what they libs contend. It’s maddening how they rely on something that is false when the true document can so easily be produced. And, BTW, Hawaii is on record as not certify the document(?) in question.


32 posted on 07/16/2009 1:35:53 PM PDT by mcshot (My President will be honest, transparent, open and have a legitimate birth certificate.)
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To: EveningStar
Let me ask you this. If this was a Republican President these question were being asked of, do you think the people questioning would be referred to as loony? I'd wager to say it would be the lead story every night and Congress would be having hearings.

Instead, we have a President with almost no public paper trail.

33 posted on 07/16/2009 1:37:34 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: EveningStar
What else has Obama failed to provide to a public - and an electorate - that deserves to know everything possible about a presidential candidate?

No wonder Obama's critics have called him a Manuchurian Candidate, a Trojan Horse, and a stealth candidate! If he has nothing to hide, why on earth is he still refusing to come clean with the American people? Answer: he clearly has a lot to hide.

34 posted on 07/16/2009 1:38:32 PM PDT by obama-facts (www.obama-facts.org)
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Can someone explain to me why a Certificate of Live Birth stating his location of birth as Hawaii doesn’t prove he was born there?

Hawaii has four different types of birth certificates:

  1. One issued by a physician or midwife that attended to the birth.
  2. One issued by the state if the child is less than one year old and by word of mouth testimony from an adult.
  3. Same as 2 except the child is more than one year old and has an endorsement from the Lieutenant Governor.
  4. One issued by the state if the child is born outside of the state or country, but the parents can claim Hawaii as their legal residence for more than one year prior to the child's birth.

Which one of these four is his certificate of live birth based on?

If it was 1 then he would have no problem with authorizing it's release.

2 and 3 get a little fishy. Since he claimed he was born in a hospital in Hawaii then neither of these types should exist. If either one does then he was probably not born in Hawaii, or the US, at all.

4 is right out. It would tell where he was born and that would most likely be outside of the US.

So, it's very possible for him to have a Hawaiian birth certificate and still not be a natural born citizen.

35 posted on 07/16/2009 1:46:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: exist

And here:

“Sean Hannity Pushes Obama ‘Not A Citizen By Birth Story’(Video)”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2293744/posts


36 posted on 07/16/2009 1:53:15 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Sean Hannity

Snicker. Snort.

37 posted on 07/16/2009 2:10:59 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Obama

Snicker and snort.


38 posted on 07/16/2009 2:13:05 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

EveningStar

Snicker and snort.


39 posted on 07/16/2009 2:15:48 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Electric Graffiti

LoL! Snicker.


40 posted on 07/16/2009 2:23:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel; Electric Graffiti

41 posted on 07/16/2009 2:29:00 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: In God I trust

FCC?


42 posted on 07/16/2009 3:07:12 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Rational Thought
Let me ask you this. If this was a Republican President these question were being asked of, do you think the people questioning would be referred to as loony?

They would by me. :)

I'd wager to say it would be the lead story every night and Congress would be having hearings.

I wouldn't bet against you on that.

43 posted on 07/17/2009 9:01:40 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: ridesthemiles

“It is not a record of your being born in the USA or in Hawaii.”

“Maya Soetero- Nobama’s half-sister was born in Indonesia, and SHE has a Certificate of Live Birth. She has admitted that she was born in Indonesia, I think in Jakarta.”

Please cite an independent reference to Obama’s sister having a COLB stating she was born in Hawaii.

You keep saying that foreign-born babies are issued COLB’s which give Hawaii as place of birth, but you never bring forth any such persons. Until you do, all you have is an unsubstantiated allegation. If it were true, the birther lawyers would be moving heaven and earth to find such persons. Bringing them forward would impeach Obama’s COLB, by impeaching all the COLB’s.


44 posted on 07/17/2009 4:44:37 PM PDT by Redwood Bob
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To: Redwood Bob; ridesthemiles
You keep saying that foreign-born babies are issued COLB’s which give Hawaii as place of birth, but you never bring forth any such persons. Until you do, all you have is an unsubstantiated allegation.

"Unsubstantiated" - not by a long shot.

Here is the Hawaiian DOH, Janice Okubo, who likes to run her mouth:

“If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate.”

If you look you'll be able to find the law for this at the Hawaiian DOH website.

From the wacky lib/rino site Washington Independent.

http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam

It doesn't take a whole lot of effort to dummy one up like Obama had done...the short form COLB and pass it off as genuine Just replace the foreign born hometown with Honolulu and put a jpg image of it online.

45 posted on 07/18/2009 1:40:07 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Redwood Bob
You keep saying that foreign-born babies are issued COLB’s which give Hawaii as place of birth, but you never bring forth any such persons. Until you do, all you have is an unsubstantiated allegation. If it were true, the birther lawyers would be moving heaven and earth to find such persons. Bringing them forward would impeach Obama’s COLB, by impeaching all the COLB’s.

Were, not are. The former Emperor of China had a COLB:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii

46 posted on 07/18/2009 2:14:16 AM PDT by FTJM
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” Were, not are. The former Emperor of China had a COLB:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii";

*************

Sun Yat-Sen, the former president (not Emperor!) of China obtained by perjured testimony a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth from the Territory in 1904. (For those who like to parse words, it’s a “certificate”, not a “certification”.) What you are alleging is that the modern State of Hawaii, AS POLICY, has knowingly issued to foreign-born persons COLB’s (”certifications”, again for word-parsers) which give Hawaii as place of birth. Please bring forth such people.


47 posted on 07/18/2009 12:09:33 PM PDT by Redwood Bob
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To: Redwood Bob
Sun Yat-Sen, the former president (not Emperor!) of China obtained by perjured testimony a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth from the Territory in 1904. (For those who like to parse words, it’s a “certificate”, not a “certification”.) What you are alleging is that the modern State of Hawaii, AS POLICY, has knowingly issued to foreign-born persons COLB’s (”certifications”, again for word-parsers) which give Hawaii as place of birth. Please bring forth such people.

Ok, former President. Sun Yat Sen is a glaring example of someone who was able to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate as an adult. Seven years later, "The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era."

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/hawnbirth.html

The program was in place when Obama was "born" and allowed for foreign born persons to be registered as born in the state, albeit by fraudulent means.

The computer generated Certification of Live Birth is a modern form and does not reflect amendments and critical birth information. The Certificate is the ultimate source document which can be corroborated with permission or court order. Hiding behind privacy laws and blocking the release of the source document while demanding proof which relies on that source document is absurd.

48 posted on 07/18/2009 3:33:44 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Redwood Bob
See this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2139603/posts

49 posted on 07/18/2009 3:42:18 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: FTJM
The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era.

The program was in place when Obama was "born" and allowed for foreign born persons to be registered as born in the state, albeit by fraudulent means.

So? The COLB Obama has posted on the web is not a certificate of Hawaiian birth. Hence I fail to see why the above is relevant.

The computer generated Certification of Live Birth is a modern form and does not reflect amendments and critical birth information.

Are you seriously suggesting that the modern state of Hawaii would allow someone to just willy-nilly amend the place of birth on record without corroborating evidence?

50 posted on 07/22/2009 1:28:52 PM PDT by curiosity
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