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Sen Roberts: Obamacare Bill includes the end of Medicare and TRICARE
CSPAN | 7/16/09

Posted on 07/16/2009 12:49:05 PM PDT by pabianice

Senator Pat Roberts on CSPAN-Senate channel now. Claims the Obamacare Bill ends both Medicare and TRICARE by making reimbursements so low that no doctor or hospital will be able to afford to provide it through a bill no one has had the time to read. Claims Obamacare will end ALL other health care options by also purposefully and maliciously undercutting all private plans. Pure Stalinist medicine.

It's clear why Obama and Pelosi are freaking-out and trying to get this passed before the end of July. If congresspeople go home and get an earful of their constituents' anger they'd never come back and vote for it.

Roberts: "Wake-up, seniors! Wake up, AARP! Wake up, National Hospital Association! This is your medical care and Obama is taking it away from you!"


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: medicare; obamacare; screwed; tricare
"Change you can believe in!"
1 posted on 07/16/2009 12:49:05 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

We all knew this was the plan.


2 posted on 07/16/2009 12:56:09 PM PDT by KansasGirl (I still think Obama is just plain creepy.)
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To: pabianice
OMG. I have TriCare Prime now. I have to go on Medicare Sept. 1. I am scheduled for surgery the first week of Sept. and was told that Medicare would be my prime ins. and Tricare secondary to pick up the rest. If I have neither, I will not get the knee replacement probably because I have heard that under the new program I will probably be thought of as "too old" for the surgery and considering I have other health problems might not be "worthy" according to Obama's plan.

I have been fighting this bill, but who can fight as fast as Obama can push. It is sickening. I wish that man would get a real grip on what bad he is doing to our country, our seniors, our businesses and our children. He is totally evil.

3 posted on 07/16/2009 1:05:00 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: CitizenM
I wish that man would get a real grip on what bad he is doing to our country, our seniors, our businesses and our children.

He has a grip. His agenda is the destruction of the America he hates.
4 posted on 07/16/2009 1:08:21 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: pabianice
Roberts: "Wake-up, seniors! Wake up, AARP! Wake up, National Hospital Association!

I am not sure I want AARP to wake up. I think they are against seniors not supporters of them.

AARP is just a left leaning money making commercial enterprise these days.

5 posted on 07/16/2009 1:15:06 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: CitizenM

Obama knows what he is doing. He wants to destroy this country and fast.


6 posted on 07/16/2009 1:19:25 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: CitizenM

You need to go to the Planned Grandparenthood Clinic and just DIE. Sincerely, Obama


7 posted on 07/16/2009 1:29:49 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Health "care" - by the same folks who run Amtrak and the post office)
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To: pabianice

8 posted on 07/16/2009 1:35:37 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: bamahead

He has a grip. His agenda is the destruction of the America he hates.
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Amazingly some have yet to grasp this fact and I do mean fact. There is precisely zero chance that you are wrong about this.


9 posted on 07/16/2009 1:43:15 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: All

the Obamacare Bill ends both Medicare and TRICARE by making reimbursements so low that no doctor or hospital will be able to afford to provide it through a bill no one has had the time to read. Claims Obamacare will end ALL other health care options by also purposefully and maliciously undercutting all private plans. Pure Stalinist medicine.

Anyone ready for civil unrest yet? NO?
Then good , you;ll get Obama care and worse down the road. Lets just sit here and watch it happen..GOOD IDEA !


10 posted on 07/16/2009 1:45:31 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Semperfiwife
That is exactly how I am feeling now. I have a call into my docs office to see if we can move surgery up within the next two weeks. I guess this is selfish. I am thinking of my own position. But I imagine there are millions like me right now, and of course, will be in the future. I am almost ashamed to be so riled up because of how this affects me personally, since the voters who supported Obama (the welfare class, et al) were only thinking of themselves and not the country as a whole. But, first this bill will affect seniors dramatically, then it will take our tax money to fund abortions and that means my money is used to murder babies!!!

Truly, I think Obama literally wants to kill off as many conservatives as possible through this bill. Certainly those who remember the Glory of what America was.

And he has also fooled the liberals who are pro-abortion and who stupidly supported him. Making it easier for them to kill their babies results in the possibility of fewer to oppose him in the future. Since most of us are white, Christian, and love America, he is doing away with us one way or another. That will leave an America he can control. The Black dependants on govt. programs who he has hoodwinked, the Muslims who live here or will come here and who hate America and to whom he has bowed, and the anti-American terrorists like Bill Ayers who have backed him.

11 posted on 07/16/2009 1:50:24 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Semperfiwife
You need to go to the Planned Grandparenthood Clinic and just DIE. . . .

. . . and turn over all of your Social Security money to the government.

Sincerely, Obama

12 posted on 07/16/2009 1:57:02 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: CitizenM
"That will leave an America he can control. The Black dependants on govt. programs who he has hoodwinked, the Muslims who live here or will come here and who hate America and to whom he has bowed, and the anti-American terrorists like Bill Ayers who have backed him."

Well, sort of. What you have described will not be America. What we now recognize as these United States of America won't be in existence then and will not deserve to be known as the United States of America. I don't know what it should be called but it certainly won't be the America we know and love.

13 posted on 07/16/2009 1:59:09 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: StormEye

Obamastan?


14 posted on 07/16/2009 1:59:55 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: CitizenM

No legislation moves that fast. You have time. Calm down - then go get a few thousand of your best buds and hit the street loudly in front of the Capital.


15 posted on 07/16/2009 2:13:40 PM PDT by nicola_tesla (www.fedupusa.org)
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To: RipSawyer

I have never been more convinced of that fact than I am now.


16 posted on 07/16/2009 2:15:39 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: CitizenM

I doubt they could make any change that fast, or at least before the new FY begins on 1 October

But then, I always doubted that America would become a marxist collective in my lifetime


17 posted on 07/16/2009 2:39:22 PM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: pabianice
Roberts: "Wake-up, seniors! Wake up, AARP! Wake up, National Hospital Association! This is your medical care and Obama is taking it away from you!"

AARP, the National Hospital Association and the AMA have all been bought off -- their power and presence assured in "the new regime".

So, basically, it's up to the seniors. Obamacare will repeal Medicare.

Seniors need to understand that, from being the assured recipients of the finest medical care in the world, we'll go to being the ones who are denied care. Our care will be rationed so that the system can lavish its benefits on, e.g., illegal aliens.

18 posted on 07/16/2009 3:53:57 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: CitizenM
I wish that man [Obama] would get a real grip on what bad he is doing to our country, our seniors, our businesses and our children.

Obama knows exactly what he's doing. He is re-making the country into a penniless one-party utopia -- a fate it deserves, in his mind -- where he holds supreme power.

19 posted on 07/16/2009 3:58:06 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: silverleaf

Yes, and we all doubted we would have Obama as president. Good Lord what a mess this country is in now.


20 posted on 07/16/2009 4:21:15 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: pabianice

I think we will win this one. Constituents already pissed, and CBO says it is a disaster.


21 posted on 07/16/2009 7:01:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: pabianice

OMG What bastards


22 posted on 07/16/2009 8:02:23 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Rep. Shadegg now on Fox. Reports that Obamacare has been rammed through two more committees in past 12 hours. May be no way to stop it.


23 posted on 07/17/2009 7:40:10 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: CitizenM
And so the “Change” begins.

I'm a recent retiree and am enrolled in Tricare Prime since my Primary Care Manager is 70 miles away and the nearest base is 200 miles away.

I was just told Healthnet, the administrator of Tricare North just lost the contract in a closed bid from Aetena. Now Aetena, in an effort to cut costs, will eliminate most Prime users. However, they say Active Duty Prime members and wounded warriors will not be affected. So, that leaves 177,000 affected retirees.

Former Prime members will be converted to Standard in April 10. And to further align with the adminitration’s intentions, copayments, and deductibles will be raised. So, there's no reason to pass a law. Just use the closed bid process and demand “change”.

So this is what our warriors get for serving this country? Sacrifice and get shafted.

24 posted on 07/24/2009 6:42:29 PM PDT by wolves69 (Apr 2010 Tricare Prime Change.)
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To: wolves69
Ah ha...I smelled something sneaky was going to happen. I have TriCare Prime also for reasons similar to yours. But, I wonder what happens to us who go on TriCare for life at age 65 which I will be in a month. I know I have to pay the Medicare amount monthly, but I counted on TriCare for Life to be my secondary ins. I wonder if I now will have a higher TriCare for Life bill to pay or what. Or will we be converted to TriCare Standard? I just talked with TriCare last week and, of course, no one said a word about this coming. Now I will have to call them again.

Isn't it disgusting when all we have planned can be swept away so secretly by one man's ambitions and ego?

25 posted on 07/24/2009 7:12:31 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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