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Obama's 'noble truth' is a lie (Certifigate)
WND ^ | 7/16/09 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 07/16/2009 10:59:40 PM PDT by pissant

"Could we," I said, "somehow contrive one of those lies that come into being in case of need, of which we were just now speaking, some one noble lie to persuade, in the best case, even the rulers, but if not them, the rest of the city? ... I'll attempt to persuade first the rulers and the soldiers, then the rest of the city, that the rearing and education we gave them were like dreams, they only thought they were undergoing all that was happening to them, while, in truth, at that time, they were under the earth within, being fashioned and reared themselves, and their arms and other tools being crafted. When the job had been completely finished, then the earth which is their mother, sent them up. And now, as though the land they are in were a mother and nurse, they must plan for and defend it, if anyone attacks, and they must think of the other citizens as brothers and born of the earth." (Plato's "Republic," Allan Bloom's translation, III/414b-e.)

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"Lester, let's finish this one. Do all of your listeners and the listeners throughout this country the service to which any journalist owes those listeners, and that is the pursuit of the noble truth. And the noble truth is that the president was born in Hawaii, a state of the United States of America."(White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, as reported in WND's article, "Now White House joins 'birth hospital' cover-up.")

There was a time when good journalism had a standard consistent with Joe Friday's terse instruction, "All we want are the facts, ma'am." That was the pursuit of the simple truth. When I read the phrase "the noble truth" in Robert Gibbs' smugly evasive riposte

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; article2section1; birthcertificate; certifigate; citizenship; eligibility; ineligible; keyes; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; nobletruth; obama; obroma; plato; robertgibbs; usurper; wolverines
We will rip the BC from his cold, marxist fingers
1 posted on 07/16/2009 10:59:40 PM PDT by pissant
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To: EternalVigilance

Your guy PING


2 posted on 07/16/2009 11:00:03 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

save


3 posted on 07/16/2009 11:08:28 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: pissant
The difference between the simple truth and the noble truth is that the noble truth is actually a lie.

Perfectly accurate and appropriate.

4 posted on 07/16/2009 11:13:59 PM PDT by TChad
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To: pissant

BTTT


5 posted on 07/16/2009 11:14:35 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: pissant

Obama is a big con artist.


6 posted on 07/16/2009 11:23:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: TChad

Yup, just want the simple, humble ACCURATE Truth; interesting that GIbbs chose word NOBLE.


7 posted on 07/16/2009 11:26:47 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: null and void

higher truth ping


8 posted on 07/16/2009 11:40:47 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Navy blue)
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When the lame-brain Gibbs uses ANY term, like "Noble Truth," it is because he has been programmed by Rahm and the Teleprompter to say "just and ONLY that."

What it means is that the Obama realizes this issue is a "Global Killer" for him, that must be diffused at all cost.

That is why he has spent over a million $ on lawyers, instead of simply producing his COLB.

9 posted on 07/16/2009 11:41:52 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: TChad

Cansidering the subject is B. HUSSEIN Obama, anti-American Muslim President,
I actualy think HUSSEIN told a Noble Truth/lie just to destroy America.
Remember, he came out of the political sewer of Illinois.
They are taught at an early age how to lie with a straight face and look you in the eye while doing they are lying.

Political people from Illinois are liars.


10 posted on 07/16/2009 11:44:11 PM PDT by joydocsusie (ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE NO RIGHT TO OUR SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE USA.b. h)
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To: pissant

Alan Keyes bump


11 posted on 07/17/2009 12:11:19 AM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: pissant

Obama lies about everything....Cap and tax, Health welfare, where he met his wife....on and on and on and on and on. No surprise.


12 posted on 07/17/2009 12:24:31 AM PDT by Xeroes80 ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools."- EH)
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To: Xeroes80

And don’t forget about Sotomya$$


13 posted on 07/17/2009 12:35:14 AM PDT by Xeroes80 ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools."- EH)
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To: Xeroes80

SOTOMYA$$- A liar for all occasions.


14 posted on 07/17/2009 12:39:32 AM PDT by Xeroes80 ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools."- EH)
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To: pissant
Hey!

Obama posted his birth certificate on “Fight the Smears”. It's there for the WHOLE world to see:

http://fightthesmears.com

Hint: the website was deleted from the internet a couple of weeks ago. So was its backup: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fightthesmears.com

15 posted on 07/17/2009 12:44:50 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: TChad

Zer0’s posting of the phony birth certificate on the Internet was a sign of the lies and deception we will get from this mob.


16 posted on 07/17/2009 12:47:50 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: BP2

“Hey!

Obama posted his birth certificate on “Fight the Smears”. It’s there for the WHOLE world to see:

http://fightthesmears.com
Hint: the website was deleted from the internet a couple of weeks ago. So was its backup: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fightthesmears.com";

I find this the most interesting of all. The Ministry of Truth at work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 07/17/2009 2:30:31 AM PDT by vanilla swirl
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To: pissant

“We will rip the BC from his cold, marxist fingers “

Winston Smith has been working on this for months and will soon reveal it for all to see then we can go on with our miserable lives.
The Ministry of Truth will give us all the information we need.

This will only lead to our embarrassment, our Dear Leader would never allow a piece of paper to stand between him and the monarchy. A very, very, very good fake will be presented soon and we will be left empty handed. What then?


18 posted on 07/17/2009 2:42:57 AM PDT by vanilla swirl
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To: pissant
And the noble truth is that the president was born in Hawaii, a state of the United States of America."(White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, as reported in WND's article, "Now White House joins 'birth hospital' cover-up.")

Hey Gibbs, we don't care about your "Noble Truth." We are looking for the NoBULL Truth, have your boss release his alleged original hospital birth certificate!!

19 posted on 07/17/2009 3:37:00 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Shimmer1

Yep. Pretty much exactly the eeeeeeeevil slime mom’s concept of TRUTH.

You could hear the all caps whenever she said it...


20 posted on 07/17/2009 9:18:09 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 178 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: All
Image and video hosting by TinyPic This brave little Russian refugee lady has put her life on hold- and in danger (receives death threats) to try to save YOUR country. She flies all over the U.S. serving papers, giving speeches, meeting with various officials and giving interviews. This involves great expense, and it is reported that Dr. Orly is over $8,000 in debt from using her own funds in her fight to prove Obama's ineligibility. She needs researchers, lawyers and other volunteers. Please do what you can to help her. http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ ,
21 posted on 07/17/2009 10:00:04 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: All; pissant

Related thread:

Is Obama’s presidency threatened? [Birth Certificate]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2295398/posts


22 posted on 07/18/2009 2:59:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I am Jim Thompson!!)
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Did anyone notice that Gibbs uses the same tactic taught in Managerial Training 101? The idea that you should flatter the object of your scorn just before you shoot them down? Gibbs did exact that. He calls Lee an intelligent man and then proceeds to do his little laughing dance act. It was quite noticeable.

Next time Gibbs, don’t be so obvious in your attempts to cover up the truth. There’s nothing “noble” about it and you know it.


23 posted on 07/20/2009 7:43:32 PM PDT by Bronwynn
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To: Bronwynn

I still say you guys are missing the boat by harping on his BC. He may have one, he may not. The REAL “noble truth” here is that Obama admits he’s a dual citizen, at birth, and history guarantees that this wasn’t allowed at the time the Constitution was signed.

In fact, there has been no amendment anywhere saying that dual-citizen can run for President. They owe allegiance to both countries, at best. According to the early Supreme Court cases, he would have been deemed ONLY a British subject since they followed the patrem rule, taking the FATHER’s nationality, not the mother. Even if he decided later to owe allegiance to America, he’d be naturalized, not natural born.

Technically, it’s not about the BC, although I’d still love to see it. This jerk isn’t even supposed to be in that office, AT ALL.


24 posted on 07/20/2009 7:51:33 PM PDT by Bronwynn
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To: pissant

Keyes:"The brainwashed American elites buying into the Obama faction's pseudo-Platonic intellectual poison appear to have forgotten the wisdom of the American founders. The founders' approach to government was based on truths derived from observing human experience, rather than "noble" lies forcefully imposed by dictatorial elites. Such experience warned that unchecked power would lead to brutal oppression, no matter the lofty goals and promising rhetoric of those to whom it is entrusted. Plato tacitly acknowledges this severity when he conjures up the ultimate requirement of his Republic's "ideal" regime: the removal from society of everyone over 10 years old (i.e., anyone who refuses to submit to superior power the way very young children must). Given the massive atrocities perpetrated by the totalitarian ideologues of the 20th century, the idea of such large-scale purges is no longer a Platonic one."

Frightening thought. Maybe that's what the "end of life" counseling in Obamacare is for.

25 posted on 07/27/2009 8:26:11 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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