Posted on 07/17/2009 9:28:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
A set of fossilized Tyrannosaurus rex teeth was found in a rock layer that it had no business being in, according to evolutionary interpretations. Discovered in Hyogo, Japan, the teeth came from a 15-foot-tall dinosaur entombed in early Cretaceous rock, supposedly deposited 140 million years ago.
The problem is that T. rex dinosaurs of this large size are not supposed to have evolved until about 30 million years later. Thus, what is “known” about dinosaurs must undergo drastic revision.[1] Haruo Saegusa, a curator at the Museum of Nature and Human Activities, recently told JapanToday, ‘‘If the dinosaur belongs to the same era of the strata [early Cretaceous], the tyrannosaurus could have started to grow larger much earlier than previously thought.’’[2] The thought seems to be that merely adjusting evolutionary development backward will be enough to make the fossil fit the strata.
But the very concept of strata representing “eras” does not come from the strata themselves. That concept began with eighteenth-century French naturalist Georges Cuvier, and it has been in vogue ever since, despite the fact that it causes more problems for interpreting rock strata than it solves, and stands in stark contrast to scriptural history. Young-earth creation geologists have long held that most sedimentary strata—including the Cretaceous layer in which these teeth were found—resulted from waterborne deposits during Noah’s Flood that may harbor fossils from a particular local environment, but do not represent a particular “era.”
The assignment of a certain number of “millions of years” to a rock formation does not derive from the strata either. It is another assumption that is used to prescribe what constitutes “valid” interpretations.
Radioisotope dating is used to bolster the vast time spans ascribed to the geologic record. However, geologist John Woodmorappe cogently revealed that the radio dates are actually hand-picked to coincide with the dates already assigned from the geologic column diagram. ICR’s RATE research also conclusively demonstrated with independent lines of evidence that radioactive decay rates, widely used to bolster deep time, were dramatically accelerated in the past.[4]
Many other natural processes—like the recession rate of the moon, the decay of earth’s magnetic field, or the diffusion of helium from zircon crystals in granite—can be used, along with some basic assumptions, to measure the age of the earth, but these methods give maximum dates that are incompatible with evolutionary time spans.
Thus, the nineteenth-century strata/age/era correlation is in serious trouble. However, an oversized T. rex found in the “wrong age” and the “wrong time” doesn’t surprise creation scientists. If the rock that these T. rex fossil teeth was found in was indeed deposited during the year-long Noahic Flood, then it is easy to explain why a large dinosaur is found mixed in with smaller ones.
There never was an “era of smaller T-rex dinosaurs,” but there was an unimaginably massive Flood that wiped out whole environments, layering and sorting sediments and fossilizing the creatures buried therein.
References (for ref. links, go to original--GGG)
1. For recent examples of drastic evolutionary revisions, see Sherwin, F. The Devastating Issue of Dinosaur Tissue. ICR News. Posted on icr.org June 1, 2005, accessed June 25, 2009; Thomas, B. Data Derails Dinosaur Dominance Idea. ICR News. Posted on icr.org September 18, 2008, accessed June 25, 2009; Thomas, B. Dinosaur Fossil Erases 40 Million Years. ICR News. Posted on icr.org June 23, 2008, accessed June 25, 2009. 2. Teeth of tyrannosaurus ancestor dating back 140 mil years found in Hyogo. JapanToday. Posted on japantoday.com June 20, 2009, accessed June 24, 2009. 3. Woodmorappe, J. 1999. The Mythology of Modern Dating Methods. El Cajon, CA: Institute for Creation Research, 27-49. 4. Radioisotopes and the Age of the Earth (RATE). Posted on icr.org.
* Mr. Thomas is Science Writer at the Institute for Creation Research.
I think the story quotes “Haruo Saegusa, a curator at the Museum of Nature and Human Activities.” Maybe Haruo is wrong and it isn’t a T Rex tooth. But I think quoting an evolutionist and their conclusions is fair game. Haruo think its T Rex.
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The world is loaded with experts that know almost everything.
The problem is that inconvenient evidence constantly surfaces proving most of what they know is wrong.
From the article: "the teeth came from a 15-foot-tall dinosaur entombed in early Cretaceous rock, supposedly deposited 140 million years ago."
“If the rock that these T. rex fossil teeth was found in was indeed deposited during the year-long Noahic Flood, then it is easy to explain why a large dinosaur is found mixed in with smaller ones.”
Boy, you gotta love these hard-hitting scientific conclusions.
So on that apology.... he did say “if”, so it’s not an outright lie, but it is such an outrageous leap, and failure to utilize God-given faculties (assuming he has any) that I think you owe ME the apology.
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Carnivorous dinosaur's teeth discovered
Published: June 21, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Museum officials in Japan say fossilized teeth from an ancestor of the tyrannosaurus have been found in the Hyogo Prefecture.
Museum of Nature and Human Activities officials said the teeth found in Tamba were inside strata thought to be up to 140 million years old, Kyodo reported Sunday.
Curator Haruo Saegusa said the fossils indicate the carnivorous dinosaur they came from was likely nearly 16.5 feet long.
Saegusa added if the fossils' age was similar to that of the strata it was discovered in, the finding would represent an early ancestor of the tyrannosaurus, the Japanese news agency said.
"If the dinosaur belongs to the same era as the strata, the tyrannosaurus could have started to grow larger much earlier than thought," Saegusa said.
Kyodo reported the tens of millions of years thought to separate the fossilized dinosaur from the later tyrannosaurus age may indicate the earlier dinosaur may have been evolving.
Exactly. Atheism and evolution are belief systems, essentially, and stem from more from psychology than science.
One thing I saw in Australia put evolution in doubt for me: The redback spider.
It’s nearly identical to the Black Widow spider, except instead of a red hourglass on the belly, there’s an almost perfect red square.
My bias is that I was raised a Christian, and I have zero scientific basis for declaring evolution as a theory is not valid, but I asked myself what the chances of this evolving by accident.
Why an hourglass, and why on another continent, a square?
I believe the world was created by God, which is to say I take it on faith, but have selected empirical evidence which tends to reinforce that belief. I would suspect the same is true for evolutionists.
The thing is, that as time goes by, science seems to support the idea of the existence of God, and tends to erode the theory that it was an accident. It’s just my observation.
Here's a link to another article, since the Ministry waited until the article they referenced expired before publishing their "news."
So the consensus seems to be that this is not specifically T-Rex but likely an ancestor of T-Rex, and that this shows that larger dinosaurs may have developed much earlier than previously thought.
Makes sense to me. Real scientific knowledge has the ability to adjust to change when new evidence is found. Too bad Algore can’t figure this out.
Obviously.
It presents no conundrum. Science has no 100% reliable way of telling the age of fossils. To say otherwise is beyond risible at this point.
No, no, no. Don't you see?
If it does harm to the ToE, it can't be *real* evidence, or a *real* evolutionist.
Nope. We just have to take the amazing, elastic ToE and stretch and twist it to accommodate the evidence that someone claims would disprove then ToE if it were found.
There will never be found ANY evidence found to disprove the ToE because evos won't allow it. Either it will be explained away, disallowed, or just plain disposed of.
From UPI Science News
http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2009/06/21/Carnivorous-dinosaurs-teeth-discovered/UPI-32481245603064/
Museum officials in Japan say fossilized teeth from an ancestor of the tyrannosaurus have been found in the Hyogo Prefecture.
Museum of Nature and Human Activities officials said the teeth found in Tamba were inside strata thought to be up to 140 million years old, Kyodo reported Sunday.
Curator Haruo Saegusa said the fossils indicate the carnivorous dinosaur they came from was likely nearly 16.5 feet long.
Saegusa added if the fossils' age was similar to that of the strata it was discovered in, the finding would represent an early ancestor of the tyrannosaurus, the Japanese news agency said.
"If the dinosaur belongs to the same era as the strata, the tyrannosaurus could have started to grow larger much earlier than thought," Saegusa said.
Kyodo reported the tens of millions of years thought to separate the fossilized dinosaur from the later tyrannosaurus age may indicate the earlier dinosaur may have been evolving.
Isn't lying a sin? Or is it OK when you're doing the Lord's work?
GMTA
Don't tell me that GGG is promoting ignorance again.
GGG is doing far more damage to religion than he is to science.
Aparently to the creationist, lying is one of the 10 commandments.
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