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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: Jim Robinson; All
It just HAS to be The "Million Man Armed March on Washington".We would be asserting our 2nd Amendment rights, and letting those in Washington know why we intend to assert that right.

The political establishment MUST fear the people.

101 posted on 07/18/2009 12:43:59 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: SERE_DOC

Eliminate the income tax and eliminate the entire host of ABC agency intrusion into our lives and commerce that feeds the lobby industry and you automatically remove a lot of graft, bribery the fights for favoritism, etc.

No federal disbursements of any kind shall be made to any state, city or local government, private company, organization or person not expressly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

The federal government is hereby relieved and prohibited of the business of collecting taxes or revenue and then doling it out to special interests or cities, states, corporations, companies, subsidized industries, persons, foreign governments, etc. No federal entitlement programs of any kind are allowed. The government contracts out for supplies expenses for the armed forces and to maintain its constitutionally authorized offices and courts, etc. That’s it.

The federal government’s budget requirement is reduced by 90% over night. Same with its overreaching power grabbing.


102 posted on 07/18/2009 12:44:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent idea. A peaceful million man and women march...

The very sad thing ( and Im sure the government (0bama) counts on this) ... is people are more worried about their jobs (or lack of one) or being cut down in hours and paying bills TO DRIVE AND PROTEST/MARCH.

The MSM downplayed the tea parties and didn’t even report them.


103 posted on 07/18/2009 12:44:53 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Jim Robinson

Wife and I will be in D.C. But we cannot be unspecific about what we want. The first thing we need is a limit on how much the Feds can spend. That in itself will starve the behemoth. But we need it written into law - we cannot depend on any party or person to watch for our best interests.

http://pushbackuntil.com


104 posted on 07/18/2009 12:44:59 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Winstons Julia

I meant “take the reins”...Freudian slip? “I won”...now THAT’S taking the “reign”.


105 posted on 07/18/2009 12:45:13 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: jessduntno

LOL


106 posted on 07/18/2009 12:45:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Michael.SF.

Yup. We can’t lose with Hillary on board. Certainly don’t want the Speaker of the House. Besides, Hillary is twice the man that Obama is.


107 posted on 07/18/2009 12:47:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

But .. my theory was that if you get enough of the “patriot” kind of people in congress .. then your outline would be easier to put into effect.

If the only goal is “power” - then it’s going to be a tough slog to get anything done.


108 posted on 07/18/2009 12:47:45 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: Jim Robinson
“Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.”

Would the sovereign state governments also take possession of all weapons of war including nuclear weapons?

I have a feeling the branches of our military are going to be, let's say, *on guard* during this transition especially without a CIC to give orders.

How will this be dealt with?

Also, regarding any monies the FedGov might possess, technically, there is none.

109 posted on 07/18/2009 12:48:16 PM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: manc

That story about deciding not to ban smoking truly made me angry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8153094.stm

You know, when you go to a base nowadays, where everything is burned, you’re breathing some questionable stuff.

It’s really bizarro world when we’re talking about legalizing marijuana and outlawing cigarettes.


110 posted on 07/18/2009 12:48:56 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: Flint

Yup. We want to reaffirm and reestablish all constitutional rights and limits.


111 posted on 07/18/2009 12:48:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: struggle
It's been done before!


112 posted on 07/18/2009 12:49:40 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Jim Robinson

Should we soon expect Jim Thompson’s endorsement of the Rodham Rodent? ... When will Thompson put Peggy Noonan’s name on the FreeRepublic spell checker? She’s waiting impatiently.


113 posted on 07/18/2009 12:49:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Make all government employee unions illegal!!

Abolish tenure at all colleges and universities.

Require the teaching of economics in all public schools and make it mandatory for graduation.

Investigate ALL congress critters and jail as needed.


114 posted on 07/18/2009 12:50:16 PM PDT by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: Glenn

Good point. Guess I’m just thinking it’s time to fire and replace them ALL!


115 posted on 07/18/2009 12:51:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Earthdweller
Revoke all our pledges of monies to other countries and the IMF

Great way to start off a new government !!!!

116 posted on 07/18/2009 12:53:25 PM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Yup, just like I said but not as elegant as you

and thanks again for spell check.

I meant what I said I need a week to get back from here

117 posted on 07/18/2009 12:54:05 PM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Yup. We want to reaffirm and reestablish all constitutional rights and limits.”

You didn’t just scribble this down on a cocktail napkin in a few minutes, didja? Diabolical.

Let’s get the million there and see what happens. Two would be perfect...shut that town right down and it would take a loooong time for them to recover...my boys and I stayed at Gettysburg from the 2-5th of July...a lot of inexpensive campgrounds (and BIG open fields, that might be owned by friendly farmers) right close in...the Metro is a good way in and out...Union Station dumps you out right at the Uppper Senate Park...I think we could do this...I really do.


118 posted on 07/18/2009 12:54:50 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ccruse456

Secession by all 50 states? Nah, just fire the government that failed us. Reestablish the limits and elect an all new cast of characters. This is our God-given unalienable right according to those who established and formed our nation.


119 posted on 07/18/2009 12:55:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: Jim Robinson

A couple of immediate changes I would make to the Constitution:

1) The President and Vice-President must have served in the U.S. Armed Forces for at least four years and received an Honorable discharge.

2) Any bill creating or modifying any law requires 75% affirming votes in the associated chamber to pass. Any vote to re-peal a law requires only a simple majority.


120 posted on 07/18/2009 12:55:58 PM PDT by voicereason (I Don't Need SEX...I Get Screwed By Democrats Everyday!!!)
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