Skip to comments.If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim RobinsonEdited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
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I would give my life for the constitution now or anytime.
There would have to be HUGE numbers of people who show up.
I would walk from Florida to D.C. and gather people along the way if I thought we could peacefully get rid of the thugs in charge.
5 million very angry men into DC When???????
Its pleasant to think about the IRS not being able to pay salaries...because several million taxpayers stiffed them
Have you seen the recent charts of taxes collected this year compared to last year? That is by no means because of unemployment. The difference is too great.
Rebellion? How can restoring legal constitutional government be called rebellion? It’s not an overthrow or a revolution or even violence. We’re simply talking about restoring our rightful government as our founding fathers intended and provided for us.
Do you really want Hillary to be the interim President?
If it gets Obama out of the White House...YES! At least she is an American. We can vote her out in 2012.
I would bring my entire family of 6 to a march on Washington!
The next "first shot heard round the world" shall be brought upon by our new King George III currently residing all throughout DC in various manifestations We The People have unfortunately allowed to evolve into an oppressive and unConstitutional Fedzilla!
>Absolutely bring your children, grandchildren anyone you can get to go along. They wouldnt dare use violence against children and families and if they did, the next step is obvious.<
I understand the importance of teaching our children, but I heartily disagree, and if I was financially able to attend, I would leave my children with an older relative who would be able to care for them if they should suddenly become orphans.
The people in DC are capable of anything. Haven’t they proven that beyond a reasonable doubt in the last six months alone?
They would not even hesitate to use violence if pushed too far in their eyes.
Anyone remember Ruby Ridge and Waco?
Flame away if you must, but I fear for the safety of our littlest Americans.
I’d rather go with Gates, SecDef, appointed by GWB. Hillary would only work if she knew what would happen if she failed us.
I would add to dismantle any and every form of federal control, taxation, regulation etc. of the educational system, which would encourage individual states in the freedom to enact educational choice, with the intention that the government school system would eventually be disbanded, and at the least that the federal government would have absolutely no stake or control in it.
Until we stop BRAINWASHING our kids into communism in government schools, the upcoming generations will keep electing these kinds of people. Until we get education competitive and privatized, it will continue to be controlled and subverted by the NEA and the Communists who have infiltrated that organization.
Jim, I hope you’re right. However, judging by some of the responses you’ve gotten, I don’t hold much hope for anything of this nature to remain nonviolent for more than a day.
But would we walk on the grass? Grin
WELL THERE IS GOING TO BE ONE, SO COME ON AND JOIN US!
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The problem with bullet points is that they are too restrictive. What about the 243,687 other ways the government oversteps their bounds that are not listed. I think Jim has nailed the, one catch-all lament by citing the fact that the FedGov has as a matter of course, overstepped their constitutional constraints. THAT is what we are protesting. If more examples need to be cited that is fine, but I believe it would be better to focus the complaint on a single big ticket grievance.
this a great idea in theory, but im afraid these commies know that the avg.middle class american family will not march, or cause disent. they know they worry to much about there families, and what problems this my cause to them, or there children....maybe a tax audit, or a possible threat from acorn....and these are the people who actually are involved with daily blogs and info from fox news...the rest of the middle class just go about there day to day lives, unaware of the coup taking place...so thats the why the o-a-hole and chief can be so arrogant, and confident....like i mentioned in a previous post, ths is the perfect presidental.leftist, marksist, one world goverment storm...lets face it folks, its gonna have to take a devine power to intervene in this...and that will only happen when this global system is in place......like king david has said...”he will make his enemies his foot stool” trust god..these devils will want boulders to crush them from fear, and shame for what they have done....i dont vknow about you people, but i for cant wait
I CANT BELIEVE I SPELLED MARXIST WITH A K...LOL...MAN, SENIOR MOMENTS SUCK
I just arrived on this site, but I know I’m in the right place. I will help any way I can. Writing, editing, researching whatever you need. I’m not called Teapot Tempest for nothing...oh, and I would love to visit DC with the bunch of you. I’ll be ready to pack.
We can discuss and argue and debate from now ‘till 9/12 about what we should or shouldn’t do or change.
I believe the first step in this journey is to ‘JUST SHOW UP’.
How many of us will be able to network with like-minded people after making contacts that weekend ?
How many people back home will be motivated to join us after we shut down DC ? ( a million people in DC can not be ignored)
JUST SHOW UP
We don’t need a permit.
We don’t need an aggenda.
We don’t need a spokesperson.
We don’t need the proper ratio of port-a-johns.
WE JUST NEED TO SHOW UP !!!
Don’t forget that all and every single vote must be recorded, with no option for voting “present.”
Up here we have quite a few 9/12 groups, you might look for one in your area.
I found this for SW FL
* United States Code
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE + PART I - CRIMES # CHAPTER 115 - TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES Section 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence;
or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof -
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
How will we know those organizations aren’t penetrated by the FBI, state and city police organizations?
“Give me Liberty or Give me Death” Patrick Henry
Fear of the left’s Hate Speech, and Alinsky tactics, of the KGBama, has got to stop! We are free only if we demand it of our leaders...Hold them accountable for their selling out!
I will march on Washington with you!.
I'm afraid my first impulse was to answer: Bring a whole lot of tar and feathers; enough for all the Congress critters and their lackey staff too!
Beyond that happy thought, I dunno. Meaningful change is highly unlikely.
We need to organize Buses and group discounts for our cause, as well as set up travel funds for those with modest means...some conservatives are not wealthy, or even middle class
Even Hitler knew the power of people.
It cannot start at the top...a million man march in DC (went nowhere didn't it?).
Like Iran, it must gain momentum locally and supporters must see the local movement and be heartened by it.
It is a bonfire that must start small and be fed by the passion of believers.
A million man/woman march on DC without an agenda or momentum will go absolutely nowhere.
This cause is right. People are willing to march locally at first and, as momentum builds, regionally...then nationally. They are willing to die for this cause.
It must be peaceful and they must be willing martyrs.
They must die so freedom can live...and so that Obama is exposed for what he is!
But to start nationally is naive. The movement must gain momentum first...it must ferment and mature before it bursts on the national scene.
that’s me for sure.
yes I agree too.
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What to do with a million people in Washington? You all could present the Congress with a the text of a bill that imposes real penalties on them whenever they introduce, vote for or pass unconstitutional legislation. Real penalties like fines that hurt and they have to pay, not their campaign chests, canceling of their health care, investment and pension plans paid for by the public, and named jail or prison times for the most egregious bills.
Then make them introduce that bill to Congress, vote for it and enact it.
We should also write a bill that authorizes a budget so that the new law is funded and can be exercised.
Finally bring sample legislation that revokes all the unconstitutional clearly Marxist government programs and executive branch appointees and bureaucrats. Make it a crime to appoint a ‘czar’ with a clear penalty for failing to obey.
That’s probably all you’ll have time for.
Well, it’s a damn good think I’m not advocating force, violence or an overthrow of the government then. Just stating my desire to see a return to constitutional government and discussing how that could be done within our first amendment rights to peaceable assembly and petition of grievances.
The day the government makes it illegal to print or to quote or refer to the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution or the founding of America is the day totalitarianism has completely arrived.
After my second pass, I was still excited about the concept and the possibilities but began to think about the details of implementing these actions and the possible consequences of such. (Yeah, yeah, we totally could do this. It could work if we did it peacefully and without violence. What about the half of the country that actually likes the government that is currently in place? Would they be willing to recognize as legitimate a new form of government? Given the chance to elect new government representatives would they elect representatives of the same character and mentality of those currently serving? Would we be right back where we started with an evenly divided set of government representatives?)
After my third pass, the excitement had worn off and reality began to sink in. Questions lingered. (Hey, wait a minute. What if the elected officials currently in place refused to go? What if half the country refused to recognize a new government and therefore refused to participate in electing new representation for themselves. Wouldn't they see the new government as not representative of their own rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Would they feel forced to take action as we did? Would they do so peacefully or violently?)
After my fourth pass, complete and utter dread set in. (Oh no, there is no chance at a peaceful reformation and resolution with half of the country. There would be terrible violence and bloodshed. The entire country would shut down upon itself.)
After my fifth pass, I began to negotiate with myself and offer compromises within the current system that didn't lead to total chaos and bloodshed the likes of which we've not seen and could not imagine. (If the problem is that two halves of the country have completely different mindsets, ideas, and values, would we be more successful integrating change within the current system so as not to alienate half the country and instigate violence on their part? How could we do that? Could we some mandate that the new session of Congress after the 2010 elections immediately address our primary concerns as their first order of business and forbid them to take any other actions, pass any other laws? How could we do that?)
After my sixth pass, I'm left feeling that the only avenue to successful (and peaceful) change, reformation, and reduction of the current system of government will only be possible within the framework of the system in place today.
I'm going to read it again. Did you consider any of these scenarios in your head? Did you ask yourself any of these questions? Did you come to the conclusion that peaceful, nonviolent change could be successfully implemented? If so, how did you reach that conclusion? I need to understand that thought process. (It's an honest, sincere question and is absolutely not intended to be sarcastic or antagonistic in any way.)
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I’m in. If this be treason, let us make the most of it.
Same with welfare.
A girl can dream.....
“A Constitution is a thing antecedent to a Government, and a Government is only the creature of a Constitution. The Constitution of a country is not the act of a Government, but of the people constituting a Government. It is the body of elements, to which you can refer, and quote article by article, and which contains the principles on which the Government shall be established. Then manner in which it shall be organized, the powers it shall have, the mode of elections, the duration of Parliments, or by what other name such bodies may be called, the powers which the executive part of the Government shall have, and in fine, everything that relates to the compled organization of a civil Government, and the principles on which it shall act, and by which it shall be bound. ...the Government is in like manner governed by the Constitution.” Rights of Man, by Thomas Paine
The Looters, who have seized the citadel of our nation, each pledge to honor and defend our constitution. They have failed to fulfill that pledge of office. Without a Constitution we have no law, no civil government, and no security in our inalienable rights to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
We should perhaps recall the words of Sam Adams, on the eve of the Minute Men gathering on the green at Lexington, “If ye be men, take up your arms and arrest the King’s officers.”
The question we must each answer, for ourselves, in the near future is, “Are we the men our forefathers were?”
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No flame here-
You show good sense my Liberty Loving friend. A cloud of tear gas and a panicked crowd is no place for a child or even a semi-invalid.
Please read through the comments... To DC we go....
No problem with that...which is why we need at least a million people in D.C. September 10-12. And those who cannot make it to D.C. need to march on their state capitol or the nearest major city. It needs to be countrywide so we make it very clear that we hate what these idiots are doing to our country.
We don’t want to overthrow our government, we want to get it back to it’s original state.
is this not endorsing the overthrow of the present administration ?
by whatever means possible ?
and is not the actual intent of the second amendment "right to keep and bear arms" written law in order to secure this ability to overthrow such a rogue government as the Obama Administration ?
because the founders knew this was bound to happen and that "peaceful means" would be futile ?
The system in place today is corrupt. Think ACORN. How will we ever have a valid vote again?
So what? Our spiritual forebears were called traitors and rabble by King George and his bullies.