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What the Other Obits Won't Tell You About Cronkite (He pushed a radical agenda)
wnd.com ^ | July 18, 2009 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 07/19/2009 5:59:39 AM PDT by kellynla

WASHINGTON – Walter Cronkite is dead at 92 – but most Americans, many of whom considered him "the most trusted man" in the country during his reign as CBS News anchor – still don't know what motivated him and how he secured such an influential and lofty position.

He was like a grandfatherly institution in the early days of TV. People believed him. Uncle Walter wouldn't lie, America believed.

Thus, when he gave his opinions, they had impact. One example was his report on the Tet offensive in Vietnam, which is credited with swinging the tide of opinion against the war.

Even in his death, however, nobody has addressed how and why an otherwise obscure figure at the time was elevated to become the most prominent anchorman on television.

The story was told publicly in the July 10, 2000, edition of the Nation, a Marxist-oriented journal, in a report on death of Blair Clark, who served as editor of the Nation from 1976 through 1978: "Whether it was calling on Philip Roth to recommend a Nation literary editor or persuading CBS News president Richard Salant to make Walter Cronkite anchor of CBS Evening News, Blair had a gift for the recognition and recruitment of excellence."

Clark was not only the editor of the Nation, he was also heir to the Clark thread fortune, a Harvard classmate and friend of John F. Kennedy, a buddy of Washington Post Editor Ben Bradlee and the manager of Eugene McCarthy's 1968 campaign for the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

He veered back and forth between politics and journalism seamlessly as an associate publisher of the New York Post, a reporter for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, vice president and general manager of CBS News and yet remained a fixture in Democratic Party politics throughout his career.

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"Thus, when he gave his opinions, they had impact. One example was his report on the Tet offensive in Vietnam, which is credited with swinging the tide of opinion against the war."

And Cronkite's claim that becuase we were losing during the Tet Offensive, the war was lost...nothing further from the truth could have been said!

In fact, for every Ameican lost during the Tet Offensive, 100 of the enemy were lost.

1 posted on 07/19/2009 5:59:39 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Agree but you know how the media likes to play with numbers when we are in a war.


2 posted on 07/19/2009 6:05:35 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: kellynla
I'm convinced that the only reason World War Two was considered a "good war" was because Hitler invaded the Left's hero-nation, the Soviet Union....otherwise, we'd have had the same sort of reporting from Cronkite, Murrow, et. al. that we got from the Vietnam War....

"Normandy exposed Eisenhower as an incompetent commander."

"Iwo Jima is a quagmire"

"Roosevelt the crippled Jew is fighting the war for his Wall Street buddies and the military-industrial complex so they can get rich and get the peoples' minds off the Depression."

3 posted on 07/19/2009 6:08:34 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: kellynla

His obit would have interested me 25 years ago. Now I know he was using our minds. I use my own mind now Walter.


4 posted on 07/19/2009 6:08:55 AM PDT by omega4179 (Anti)
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To: kellynla
kellynla said:
And Cronkite's claim that becuase we were losing during the Tet Offensive, the war was lost...nothing further from the truth could have been said! In fact, for every Ameican lost during the Tet Offensive, 100 of the enemy were lost.
At the Battle of the Ardennes Salient (The Battle of the Bulge), the Allies were losing for the first few days. By Walter's logic, we should have withdrawn all American forces and left Europe to the Germans.
5 posted on 07/19/2009 6:12:46 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: kellynla

When Farah has actual facts to reference, he’s a pretty good writer.


6 posted on 07/19/2009 6:13:01 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: kellynla
another elitist Marxist with the wherewithal to sail around Long Island in his huge sailing yacht....lifes a b!tch for the peasants, ain't it....
7 posted on 07/19/2009 6:16:15 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: kellynla
I can remember quite clearly the night that my father - a Democrat - watched Walter Cronkite and started to swear in anger over the clear anti-military agenda. After that evening, he'd still go to the local CBS affiliate for the local newscast, but went elsewhere for the national news, even though NBC was considered "second-string" at our house, and ABC was seen as almost hapless.

Cronkite was the sort of thing "up with which dad would not put."

Mr. niteowl77

8 posted on 07/19/2009 6:23:09 AM PDT by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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To: kellynla
Yeah, Uncle Walter is still dead. My father couldn't believe the evening news when he got back from Vietnam. He said it was like listening to somebody that hadn't even been in the same places that he'd been.

He hated Cronkite after Tet. I was young and couldn't really get worked up about a news reader. Since then I've seen the cr#p that Rather, Jennings and the rest of the MSM has pulled. Thank God they're so stupid that they don't realize that most people are getting their news edited by the internet and web sites like this.

9 posted on 07/19/2009 6:32:13 AM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: kellynla

I have been avoiding FR and the news over Cronkite stories. Every time I hear his name I have to wonder how my life would have been if it were not for Cronkite. I’m fully convinced one of the reasons we are in the middle east now is the liberal work of men like Cronkite, Carter and jerks just like them.


10 posted on 07/19/2009 6:33:10 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: kellynla

BTW. Coats and Clark thread stinks. Gutermann and Metrosene aren’t as fuzzy and will keep your machine cleaner.


11 posted on 07/19/2009 6:35:32 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: kellynla

Walter was always after ways to promote Walter, he had no real convictions and no common sense with no education. I have no respect for him and his Marxist, “hate America” agenda. I believe Walter had an arrogant tone of voice along with a speaking voice that resonated well on television and sounded believable. He was selected by leading Marxists to spread their lies and did so for many generations and much to the detriment of America. People like Cronkite are dangerous because they have the center stage and his arrogance and “know-it-all” tone sounds very much like our new President. It has worked for decades and now Barry has picked up the baton.
It is time for America to wake up and stop putting their faith in these phoney patriots, their way leads to the end of America.


12 posted on 07/19/2009 6:40:05 AM PDT by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent)
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To: kellynla

Walter was a world-government globalist traitor mole. Period.


13 posted on 07/19/2009 6:41:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: reg45; kellynla

“By Walter’s logic...”

Well said. I have noticed the left always talks about “exit strategies”. How about winning? They also always try to paint America and Americans in the worst possible light when we are at war. If I am fair, then I must truthfully admit America has made mistakes. Every nation has. But in the course of history, no nation has given as much of themselves for the benefit of all humankind as America. What kind of world would we now have if in 1941 our leaders asked about “exit strategy”? What if they spoke of our own racial problems, our financial problems and decided we didn’t have the funds or the “moral position” to go to war? No, we are not perfect. We never will be. But, take a good long look around the world. America is it’s last great hope. We have to fix ourselves - because as bad as things are in America, without a free America - the world looks pretty dark.-—JM


14 posted on 07/19/2009 6:43:27 AM PDT by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: kellynla

A mole upon America. Also he volunteered to be John Anderson’s VP running mate in 1980.


15 posted on 07/19/2009 6:43:45 AM PDT by junta (I am the son of Yacub, who for one welcomes my new overlord Obama.)
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To: kellynla

Didn’t good old Walter write a book called,”So What’s A Wrong With Liberalism”, or something like that? Case closed!


16 posted on 07/19/2009 6:46:20 AM PDT by Mier (We grow to soon old and to late smart!)
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To: kellynla
It's so normal, now,
to hate TV news readers
or to dismiss them

like Katie Couric
it must be strange for young kids
to try to look back

three generations
to when news readers were loved.
(I still remember

assassination
researchers being surprised
Dan Rather's account

of Zapruder's film
didn't match the film itself.)
It's been a big change.

17 posted on 07/19/2009 6:48:16 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: kellynla

Cronkite was an evil propagandist, the founding member of the modern corrupt mass media.

Good riddance to this monster.


18 posted on 07/19/2009 6:48:19 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: kellynla

Wow, John Anderson was really politically unsophisticated if he chose “Pat Lucey” over Uncle Walter. Cronkite could have put some states in play. People really believed he was the most trusted man in America and some of the older geezers still do!


19 posted on 07/19/2009 6:48:46 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Travis McGee
Walter was also a pretty serious drinker. I know some one in school with Kronkite's son. He came to campus sometimes. I have never cared for him, since i caught on (Vietnam era) to his bias.

vaudine

20 posted on 07/19/2009 6:49:44 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Rockiette

Yes, all true, but the American people aren’t up to the task. The Nathan Hales are of no more.


21 posted on 07/19/2009 6:50:27 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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Let me set the record straight.

Walter Cronkite and the Liberal Media were against the Viet Nam war since 1969.

When Cronkite “reported” on CBS in 1969 that because of the Tet Offensive in Viet Nam, “the war was lost”; he was not reporting the truth.

The truth is, we NEVER lost a major battle in the Viet Nam war including the Tet Offensive.

The truth is, that we handed the Viet Cong and the NVA some of their worst defeats during the Tet Offensive.

And Cronkite “jumped the shark” in 1969 and became complicit and instrumental in the antiwar movement which was orchestrated on colleges & universities by the Communist Party during the 1960’s.

The Communists KNEW they were losing the war in Viet Nam and they KNEW that the only way to prevent America from winning the war was to create antiwar sentiment in America.

While the media and politicians will be slobbering all kinds of praise on Walter Cronkite this weekend and beyond; I just want you to know the FACTS.

Yes, Cronkite was a very good reporter and I hope he made amends with his Maker before he died, but he was no American patriot during the Viet Nam war and he certainly wasn't honest in his "reporting.”

Many American Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen & Marines were maimed and killed needlessly because JFK, LBJ and Democrat Party put us in a war that we could not win because we fought that war with “one hand behind our back”. And Cronkite & many others in the American media were complicit in the loss of the Viet Nam war because of their disingenuous reporting.

The vast majority of the media today is inundated with students of the 60’s who were indoctrinated by anti-American, anti-military, antiwar Leftists/Socialists/Marxists Journalism professors who were against the Viet Nam war. And as a result, we live in a country that gets their “news” today on television networks like ABC, CBS, NBC and newspapers like the New York Times & the L.A. Times whose editorial boards and news staffs are loaded with Liberals who are blatantly anti-military, antiwar and many times anti-American to the point of editorializing not only on the op-ed pages but in their news “reporting.”

JFK put us in the Viet Nam war and LBJ increased our presence but refused to allow us to WIN the war.

On more occasions than I care to remember; I led patrols across rice paddies and up mountains chasing the VC and NVA only to be ordered to return to our base camp after we had reached the Laotian border. You can't win a war unless you are committed to beating your enemy into defeat and final surrender.
And the Viet Nam War was the Korean War redux.

Finally, My Lai was an aberration and I can tell you unequivocally that there were no “mass murders or mass tortures” occurring during the Viet Nam war as was “reported” by the media.

John Kerry “testi-lied” before a congressional committee when he returned from Viet Nam in 1971 after only serving three months of his one year tour of duty.
He received orders back to the States by lying about so-called combat injuries he received while in Viet Nam and was awarded three Purple Hearts for injuries he did not receive in combat.There was a rule in place at the time that allowed anyone who received three Purple Hearts could be sent back to the States before finishing their tour of duty. John Kerry couldn't get out of Viet Nam fast enough. And Kerry lied about wounds he claimed he received on days that he was not involved in any enemy contact. For the record, I challenged Kerry some years ago on his military combat record but he refused to respond. Figures...once a coward, always a coward!

The Liberals in the media will be reporting and writing articles & books contrary to the FACTS regarding the Viet Nam war.

So don't be fooled by the praise laid on Walter Cronkite who is the “Father of American Liberal Media.”

I just wanted to “set the record straight” and inform you of the FACTS because I WAS THERE. I was a Marine Corps S-2 Intelligence NCO who not only had access to Intelligence reports but I also personally wrote many of those reports and was awarded combat medals and promotions for my work. So I KNOW the FACTS.

The Viet Nam war was lost in America NOT Viet Nam!

Semper Fidelis,
Kelly

22 posted on 07/19/2009 6:57:20 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

bookmark


23 posted on 07/19/2009 6:59:53 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: kellynla
I came home form Viet Nam in the spring of 1968. I went to listen to the news and was so infuriated that I seldom could stomach TV let alone the news for years. The country that I had departed was totally different than what was being said. I still do not trust the media. Tet was a surprise attack that was a total victory for the Army. I have totally no respect for lying liberals. John Kerry you are a liar. I did not kill any babies or rape and pillage the landslide.
24 posted on 07/19/2009 7:00:02 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: kellynla

B T T T


25 posted on 07/19/2009 7:02:12 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Jubal Madison
We were losing the first few months of the Pacific Campaign in World War Two - Pearl Harbor, Philippines, Java Sea.

The Battle of the Coral Sea was a tie.

It wasn't until Midway that we started winning.

Would Walter have advised giving up in April of 1942 and abandoning the Pacific to the Japanese Empire?

In those days, our "exit strategy" was "unconditional surrender" by the enemy; as opposed to now when our "exit strategy" is "unconditional surrender" by us.

26 posted on 07/19/2009 7:05:05 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: kellynla

AMEN!

Cronkite was pond scum...even to the end.


27 posted on 07/19/2009 7:06:59 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: kellynla
“Save the besieged troops at Khe Sanh !!!! “ Screamed the images from Life magazine on down...... ”Besieged” my butt. The battle for Khe Sanh was your standard run of the mill mouse trap with the cheese being this little forward base seemingly cut off from support.The NVA thought they had this in the bag and committed thousands of little guys to win world wide bragging rights. While Cronkite and Life showed the base being rocketed , the bodies on the wire started to pile up.....and the pile kept growing as death fell from the skies and wiped out the attacking waves. Think of the movie “Zulu”........now multiply the enemy kia by about a zillion and you get the idea what was really going on over there during that time period. We had never been able to get enough of the little short guys together.....it was the “Khe Sanh cheese” that did it. I read that rats feeding off the bodies on the wire were returning deeper into N. Vietnam and spreading diseases...I remember bubonic plague was a term mentioned.....
No mother, father, brother, sister or child wants their loved one to be used as bait to draw the enemy out in large numbers, better to present the Alamo image to the public.......now you know the truth.....in my opinion :)
Khe Sanh was one of the truly great military victories....screw Cronkite and Life magazine. If we could have tweetered to the American Public........you get the idea.
28 posted on 07/19/2009 7:14:40 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: mountainlion
“Tet was a surprise attack that was a total victory for the Army?”

Lets not forget the allied forces of South Korea, Australia, New Zealand and South Viet Nam as well as the U.S.N., U.S.M.C. & U.S.A.F.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

29 posted on 07/19/2009 7:15:57 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

“I’m glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan.” And there he sits.


30 posted on 07/19/2009 7:18:30 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: kellynla
The problem with Kronkite is that he did not have the military background to interpret what he saw. What I tell younger people about this is that, unlike Korea and earlier campaigns, this war was suddenly brought home to everyone by TV by the way events in Tet were reported. Before Tet, there was footage of war, but nothing particlularly gory , maybe explosions and smoke in the distance. Even Cronkite was more or less pro-American up that point, as I remember. But suddenly during the Tet era we saw up-close street fighting, the famous Loan street execution (which is militarily legal, by the way), the Kim Phuc photo of her running from (alleged) American napalm, another distortion in the myriad distortions that would follow. The social pressure of campus liberals and Alinsky-style campus faculty, who were in the minority but just louder and more obnoxious than other voices, provided a back-drop for the discouragement in what I call Cronkite's famous "quagmire" broadcast in 1968. It also, of course, influenced Johnson's spineless desertion of South Vietnam. Nowdays (e.g. Desert Storm), during military engagements, we have talking heads, retired generals etc., to give us their opinions. Their may differ, but at least they have had a military background. We did not have such commentary in 1968; and Cronkite certainly had none. He allowed what was (as he himself admitted in his infamous February 1968 broadcast) an emotional response to the carnage of Tet to color his opinion. As someone else has accurately implied, this was like someone returning from the Battle for the Bulge in WWII and saying, "On, no, the terrible carnage, the tragic loss of life... we are never going to win this thing, so let's sue for peace" (as if war were some sort of tea party) The fatality ratio for the entire Tet campaign was 45:1 for North:South combatants (some estimates are even higher). Yes, we were suprised by the attack, but the outcome so weakened the North (according to the diaries we can now read of Giap and some of the other generals) that the North was ready to sue for peace, and probably would have if events in this country, especially on the campuses, had transpired differently. Old war dogs and patriots who have followed this issue for 40 years know all this already, of course, but now there is some good literature on it to give your grandchildren, sources not everyone knows about. (Indeed, give it to anyone too old to remember what really happened!) This literature is especially good for those who work with or around young people. For a good, short monograph on misconceptions about how the Vietnam "war" has been remembered, I heartily recommend the (paperback) booklet "White/Blackwash: Myths of the Vietnam War," by Bill Laurie and R. J. del Vecchio. This is the best reference I have seen to give to people who won't likely read a longer book. The extensive list of references (including websites) at the end is itself worth the modest price ($5), and proceeds go to disabled South Vietnam vets whose descendants still suffer in Vietnam from gross heartless discrimination. This is something to put in the hands of your children and grandchildren. For a more scholarly reference I recommend Mark Moyar's Triumph Forsaken. Moyar was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize by Cambridge University. Check him out at . Mark, despite being a cum laude Cambridge graduate, and a Harvard Ph. D. who published his graduate thesis as a book, (and now has another on on the way) has had a hard time finding a teaching position. I wonder why? Finally, an excellent DVD that shows how Tet was misrepresented to the public is Television's Vietnam. It is narrated by Charlton Heston, who is much more than just an NRA spokesman.
31 posted on 07/19/2009 7:20:56 AM PDT by Phantom4
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To: kellynla

Walter Cronkeit = Minister of Propaganda.. Czar of Hooey.. Commisar of BullSqueeze..


32 posted on 07/19/2009 7:21:43 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Theodore R.
The Nathan Hales are of no more.

And, if one showed up, the enemedia would bury the story anyway, or make him out to be a criminal.

33 posted on 07/19/2009 7:21:59 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: reg45

I don’t think Americans have ever really been fond of war. But, it used to be when we committed to it - we were in it to win. I don’t want to sound to corny - but in a very real way the best thing we can give to our young warriors is the knowledge that we as a nation are committed to their victory. I am ashamed that as a nation, we seem more concerned with Michael Jackson’s death than with those young souls who gave all for us in Afghanistan. We all need to remember that our I Pods, McMansions, boats and our freedoms all have one common element. Our freedom and prosperity were paid for in blood.-—JM


34 posted on 07/19/2009 7:27:56 AM PDT by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: kellynla
Walter Cronkite is one of the things that makes the John Birch Society's theory that the Left is secretly run by the Old American Establishment look like there might be something to it (the Ivy League universities is another). Here we have a radical who performed as the "owl" at the Bohemian Grove (whose membership is mostly rich Republicans) who was promoted to his position after agitation by a socialist activist--and East Coast socialist activist.

As perhaps FR's most unabashed, unapologetic Hamiltonian, I have long been embarrassed by the way the coasts and the heartland have switched political positions over the past century or so. Do you suppose William McKinley was gay?

35 posted on 07/19/2009 7:41:22 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Be`ever haYarden be'Eretz Mo'av; ho'iyl Mosheh be'er 'et-haTorah hazo't le'mor.)
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To: kellynla
Spot on Sir!
Semper Fi!
36 posted on 07/19/2009 7:43:42 AM PDT by blaveda (D)
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To: TET1968

I hope you don’t mind. BIG SMILE

“Save the besieged troops at Khe Sanh !!!! “ Screamed the images from Life magazine on down...... ”Besieged” my butt.

The battle for Khe Sanh was your standard run of the mill mouse trap with the cheese being this little forward base seemingly cut off from support.

The NVA thought they had this in the bag and committed thousands of little guys to win world wide bragging rights.

While Cronkite and Life showed the base being rocketed , the bodies on the wire started to pile up.....and the pile kept growing as death fell from the skies and wiped out the attacking waves.

Think of the movie “Zulu”........now multiply the enemy kia by about a zillion and you get the idea what was really going on over there during that time period.

We had never been able to get enough of the little short guys together.....it was the “Khe Sanh cheese” that did it.

I read that rats feeding off the bodies on the wire were returning deeper into N. Vietnam and spreading diseases...I remember bubonic plague was a term mentioned.....

No mother, father, brother, sister or child wants their loved one to be used as bait to draw the enemy out in large numbers, better to present the Alamo image to the public.......now you know the truth.....in my opinion :)

Khe Sanh was one of the truly great military victories....screw Cronkite and Life magazine. If we could have tweetered to the American Public........you get the idea.”


37 posted on 07/19/2009 7:44:33 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

You are right of course. I did not say US Army. I guess I should have said Tet was a military victory.


38 posted on 07/19/2009 7:55:42 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
I'm convinced that the only reason World War Two was considered a "good war" was because Hitler invaded the Left's hero-nation, the Soviet Union....

You're probably correct. In fact, the Hollywood commies, who got their marching orders from Stalin, were ordered to not write any scripts critical of Hitler during the Soviet/Nazi non-aggression pact. Much pressure was put on Lillian Hellman (big-time commie) to keep her play Watch on the Rhine from being filmed. When she wrote it, the Russians and Nazis were at each other throats. Once the two countries made nice, the play became an embarrassment.

After Hitler invaded Russia, it became cool again to dis the Nazis.

39 posted on 07/19/2009 7:58:42 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: kellynla

My dad always maintained the two worst things America did was:

1. Go off the gold standard.
2. Listen to Walter Cronkite.


40 posted on 07/19/2009 7:59:11 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: kellynla
Great story and in-site, never knew the details, but now make a lot of sense.

Great tag line.

41 posted on 07/19/2009 8:00:42 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: kellynla
I had 2 brothers, a sister and 2 BiL serve in WWII and was a proud American then I came home from a bad day at work sat down with my bottle of beer in hand when Cranktite panned the Vietnam war. I went into a rage and threw that nearly full bottle at the TV and missed but it went through 2 layers of sheetrock into the garage. I had a friend patch the inside hole and panel that wall but left the one in the garage as a reminder...
42 posted on 07/19/2009 8:18:09 AM PDT by tubebender (Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected?)
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To: kellynla

The day that Cronkite stepped over the line and criticized the Viet Nam war was a watershed moment for which mainstream journalism has yet to recover.

His declaration that the Tet Offensive was a draw when it really was a decisive US victory is as egregious as Dan Rather’s trying to bring down a president with forged documents. The difference is, we didn’t have the conservative blogosphere back then.

I wouldn’t trust Cronkite as far as I could throw him, which is not very far.


43 posted on 07/19/2009 8:21:22 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Rockiette

Give each of them a few pieces of silver and a few trinkets, and they sell their own Mothers into Slavery!
Cronkite was trilled with the few pieces of silver, and the praise he got from his Bosses:-) Meanwhile, AMERICA got Sold down the River by the likes of him, John Francois Kerry, and the Hanoi Cheerleaders:-(
And they almost did it to AMERICA with IRAQ, except for Our Great President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney with a Great Military and the backing of The Real AMERICANS!


44 posted on 07/19/2009 8:25:25 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: kellynla

AMEN! ANDAll Real AMERICANS AREGRATFUL AND THANKFUL TO YOU AND ALL IN THE MILITARY WHO SERVED AND GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR DEMOCRAY AND AMERICA IN VIET NAM AND EVERYWHERE! :-)


45 posted on 07/19/2009 8:30:51 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: kellynla
Finally, My Lai was an aberration and I can tell you unequivocally that there were no “mass murders or mass tortures” occurring during the Viet Nam war as was “reported” by the media.

Actually, there were. In Hue, during Tet, when the VC, riding the arm of the NVA and armed with lists of names, rushed through the city rounding up 3000 GVN schoolteachers, administrators, and military personnel and their families and led them out to the sand dunes and shot them with their hands tied behind their backs with barbed wire.

Vindictive, nasty little VC bastards didn't get the press, though. Rusty Calley and Capt. Medina did.

After the war, the NVA and their buddies in Laos hosed the Meo and Hmong indiscriminately with Russian-made mycotoxins and other chemical weapons. The press? <yawn> -- all in a day's work for the Left.

46 posted on 07/19/2009 8:33:22 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: mountainlion
No problem...I just wanted to give credit to ALL those who contributed.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

47 posted on 07/19/2009 8:34:21 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Vaduz
you know how the media likes to play with numbers when we are in a war.

Oddly enough, the body count hasn't been emphasized as much lately. I have no idea why. /sarc

48 posted on 07/19/2009 8:39:23 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (I long for the days when advertisers didn't constantly ask about the health of my genital organs.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I know you know I was referring to “mass murders or mass tortures” by the USA.

shezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

49 posted on 07/19/2009 8:41:46 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Phantom4
But suddenly during the Tet era we saw up-close street fighting, the famous Loan street execution (which is militarily legal, by the way)....

Absolutely correct. Police Gen. Loan dispensed summary justice to that VC captain who'd been running around two hours before with his company, no uniforms, sniping the families of Gen. Loan's men in the neighborhood where most of them lived.

The little VC rat-bastard had it coming, and Gen. Loan, in the full discharge of his loyalty to his men whose families had just been terrorized, gave it to him with a hammerless Smith.

50 posted on 07/19/2009 8:42:54 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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