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Washington Post Poll: Growing Numbers See Obama as Old Style, Tax and Spend Democrat
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Posted on 07/20/2009 10:11:28 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Washington Post Poll: Growing Numbers See Obama as Old Style, Tax and Spend Democrat

Lots of interesting data from the ABC News/Washington Post poll today. Read a summary of the top line findings here.

The four-month trend in the question below is probably producing a Rolaids moment for Obama. The overall results are troubling enough. But I suspect the numbers are even worse among swing voters. Unfortunately the poll doesn’t report results among independents. However, support for Obama dropped off almost immediately after inauguration day among Republicans. Democrats still strongly support the president. So lots of the movement in the chart below probably comes from independents growing disenchanted with Obama, a trend evident in a number of other polls like this and this.

These Americans are growing increasingly frustrated with the gap between the president’s moderate rhetoric and the liberal policies produced by Congress. Their concerns are manifested in results like this:

Which of these statements comes closer to your view: (Beneath it all, Obama is an old-style, tax-and-spend Democrat) OR (Obama is a new-style Democrat who will be careful with the public's money).


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; bhofascism; communism; democratcongress; democrats; economy; hopeychangemas; hopeychangey; liberalfascism; obama; socialism; taxes
see the chart..........
1 posted on 07/20/2009 10:11:29 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

WOW!!

This is a real revelation....... /sarc


2 posted on 07/20/2009 10:13:21 AM PDT by Howie66 (The one redeeming thing about liberals: their tendency to kill their own.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Growing Numbers See Obama as Old Style, Tax and Spend Democrat "

Gee. Such astute, on-the-ball people.

3 posted on 07/20/2009 10:13:23 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: Sub-Driver

hope and change!


4 posted on 07/20/2009 10:13:31 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Sub-Driver

“gap between the president’s moderate rhetoric and the liberal policies produced by Congress”

Washington Post doesn’t have a clue that the very liberal agenda is ZERO’s along with Pelosi and Reid. ZERO is by far the most left person to occupy the WH and his campaigning was all a lie! He was no moderate and never was but the new media bought into him hook, line, and sinker and covered up for ZERO to scam the American voters.

One little problem for the drive-by media, the American voters are catching on rapidly that ZERO is a fraud.


5 posted on 07/20/2009 10:15:08 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Sub-Driver
"The four-month trend in the question below is probably producing a Rolaids moment for Obama. "That response would indicate he was in touch with reality, which is evidently about as much the case as it was with Michael Jackson--insulated by sycophants, yes-men and an adoring media.
6 posted on 07/20/2009 10:15:46 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: Sub-Driver

Old Style? Try Old Syle-Supersized in record time.


7 posted on 07/20/2009 10:15:57 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Sarah Palin: Conservative Point Guard-2009/10 Conservative Captain-2011/12)
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To: Sub-Driver
This chart still is in Obama's favor though :-(


8 posted on 07/20/2009 10:16:14 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is another poll of “adults” not voters. I figure the results are biased in favor of RATS by roughly five percentage points just based on the deliberate choice of a more left-leaning sample.

Ras’ numbers show likely voters trusting Republicans more than RATS on eight of 10 key issues. This is what happens when you use a legitimate sample.


9 posted on 07/20/2009 10:17:40 AM PDT by freespirited (Honk if you miss Licorice.)
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To: for-q-clinton

Only because of the gerrymandered sample. See my post above.


10 posted on 07/20/2009 10:18:07 AM PDT by freespirited (Honk if you miss Licorice.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Polls seem to be able to track all sorts of voting groups.

I would like them to add one more group: Voters who actually pay income tax.

No representation without taxation!

“Part of the president’s tax proposal provides euphemistically-dubbed “tax credits” to the roughly 60% of the populace that does not actually pay income taxes. This would create the perverse situation in which having no obligation to pay anything under the tax code becomes a profitable enterprise, leaving the non-payer with a net gain.” — Stevn M. Cohen


11 posted on 07/20/2009 10:19:30 AM PDT by RazzPutin ("You have told us more than you can possibly know." -- Niels Bohr)
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To: PhiKapMom

He’s an old style “Marxist”......more and more people are starting to voice this fact.


12 posted on 07/20/2009 10:19:58 AM PDT by RC2
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To: freespirited

It is clear that Hussein Is A Communist Dictator.


13 posted on 07/20/2009 10:21:19 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: freespirited
to post #9..... the article said that they didn't poll the independents..... so how valuable is this anyway? When you poll selected few (like obamanation chooses his reporters to respond to in townhall meetings), the results are surely skewed.
14 posted on 07/20/2009 10:22:33 AM PDT by bareford101
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To: Sub-Driver

“But I suspect the numbers are even worse among swing voters”

Voters not affiliated with either party like GOP candidates by a 39% to 19% margin.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot


15 posted on 07/20/2009 10:22:41 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Slapshot68
"hope and change!

I would like to wish all the Zero voters a heartfelt "Hopey Changemas"

Not my quote but I picked it up on FR this morning and thought it appropriate for the thread.

Sniper63

16 posted on 07/20/2009 10:26:55 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: Sub-Driver; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


17 posted on 07/20/2009 10:30:24 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

It just goes to show that people will buy any sort of crap if you package it right.


18 posted on 07/20/2009 10:30:26 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Howie66
WOW!! This is a real revelation....... /sarc

exactly... why did they think he was any different?

19 posted on 07/20/2009 10:31:55 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: PhiKapMom
Zero lied to the voters claiming to be a tax-cutting moderate and the disconnect between his rhetoric and his policies is becoming increasingly apparent.
20 posted on 07/20/2009 10:32:14 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: Sub-Driver

“Growing Numbers See Obama as Old Style, Tax and Spend Democrat “

. . . on steroids!!!!


21 posted on 07/20/2009 10:57:21 AM PDT by RatRipper (I HATE tax & spend politicians)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Growing Numbers See Obama as Old Style, Tax and Spend Democrat “

. . . on steroids!!!!


22 posted on 07/20/2009 10:57:31 AM PDT by RatRipper (I HATE tax & spend politicians)
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To: latina4dubya

“exactly... why did they think he was any different?”

Honestly, I seriously doubt that there was any thought put into him at all. I pray that those who voted for him choke on that “hope-n-change” crap.


23 posted on 07/20/2009 11:02:50 AM PDT by Howie66 (The one redeeming thing about liberals: their tendency to kill their own.)
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To: colorado tanker

0bama has lied about everything so far. The independents disapprove of him now and people are getting veeery suspicous!


24 posted on 07/20/2009 11:02:56 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Sub-Driver

And 0bama will get on the TV Wed. night and (hopefully break into dancing with the stars and piss people off even further) to sell his atrocities and threaten that; we all don’t support nurses if we don’t support ObamaCare.

NEWSFLASH to RAHM: it ain’t workin no more.


25 posted on 07/20/2009 11:04:58 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: RC2

Exactly! Even Democrats here are calling him a Marxist but it is Oklahoma. He only got 34% of votes in Oklahoma in 2008, and I would bet he wouldn’t even get 25% today here. Doubt if they poll Oklahomans.


26 posted on 07/20/2009 11:13:54 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Boardwalk

Wanna bet on whether 0bama on Wed. night when he cuts in on prime time AGAIN says again-don’t listen to the naysayers?

He thinks it will work.


27 posted on 07/20/2009 11:14:24 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: colorado tanker

It is like two different people. I don’t think I have ever seen such a disconnect between a campaign and someone who was elected and how they govern. His way of governing with all the Czars at $182,000 a Czar plus 10 employees each should be a red flag for everyone that he wants no accountability. He wants to be a dictator but even the Dems are starting to wake up a little.

No one spends over $1M to keep their records of birth, schooling, and passport secret. What a waste of money and what is he hiding?


28 posted on 07/20/2009 11:18:09 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

0bama has us on notice! Don’t bet against him! Ever notice how he talks down to the American people but talks up to the Terrorists!


29 posted on 07/20/2009 11:19:05 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: PhiKapMom
I don’t think I have ever seen such a disconnect between a campaign and someone who was elected and how they govern.

I haven't either.

The blessing in disguise may be how he overplayed Porkulus, which ain't "stimulating" anything but state and local government. It's so bad the public is getting skeptical about his health care plans.

30 posted on 07/20/2009 11:21:58 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: Sub-Driver
Perhaps the dumbbells are finally coming out of their comas.
My, My. The most liberal member of the Senate blew smoke up their arses during the campaign, they voted for him and now after a mere 6 months they are having buyers remorse.

I've been around a long time and there are some things that NEVER change with most Democrats:
-Soft on crime
-Expect no personal responsibility from their constituents
-Weak on national defense
-Loathe the U.S. miliary
-Lack of Statesmenship/Strong on street politics

31 posted on 07/20/2009 11:27:23 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: colorado tanker

Fox is all over the dropping poll numbers and is questioning the urgency factor of the health care reform big time!


32 posted on 07/20/2009 11:28:39 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Sub-Driver

“Growing Numbers See Obama as Old Style, Tax and Spend Democrat”....

What a bunch of idiots!....Obama is way beyond this label. He’s a whack left radical for God’s sake!....


33 posted on 07/20/2009 11:29:06 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: colorado tanker

I think you are correct that he has overplayed his hand and he did it a lot quicker then I thought he would.


34 posted on 07/20/2009 11:40:17 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Boardwalk; Richard Kimball

I’m increasingly thinking his health care disaster isn’t going to happen before the Summer recess. Still, he might be able to Rahm it through the House this Fall using his bare-knuckle Chicago style, but I see real trouble in the Senate. It’s just gonna get tougher as his numbers fall. We may yet win this one!


35 posted on 07/20/2009 11:44:35 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: Sub-Driver

This explains his snarling update today on ObamaCare.


36 posted on 07/20/2009 12:14:38 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Sub-Driver

One must also remember that Obama stole his Senate seat in the first place. Illegally accessed the divorce court records of his opponent (Ryan) who was way ahead in the Senate race and gave to all his drooling press whores.


37 posted on 07/20/2009 12:17:04 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Sub-Driver
I do not believe any poll that comes from the MSM. Rasmussen is the only poll I put any trust in.
38 posted on 07/20/2009 12:22:55 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Sub-Driver

Buyers Remorse has found the swing voter, who was so disgusted with many of the Bush administrations moves they were willing to buy into the “anyone is better than Bush” stuff.. now they have realized they were wrong and this guys a dud, and are and will be deserting this schlub in droves.

This guy will be lame duck by the end of the year.


39 posted on 07/20/2009 12:26:03 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Sub-Driver
Washington Post Poll: Growing Numbers See Obama as Old Style, Tax and Spend Democrat

Wash Post is sugar-coating the bad news, as usual.

The true headline, if told: "Growing Numbers See Obama as Extreme anti-American Communist, Marxist, Islamist, Terrorist, Usurper, Pretender, Fraudulent POS"

Obama, looking like an aging gay pimp, declined to comment.

40 posted on 07/20/2009 12:31:43 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: pabianice
One must also remember that Obama stole his Senate seat in the first place. Illegally accessed the divorce court records of his opponent (Ryan) who was way ahead in the Senate race and gave to all his drooling press whores.

Methinks you giveth the poseur too much credit for digging that up.

Skulduggery is usually left to the more skilled talents of manipulators rather than their sock puppets.

41 posted on 07/20/2009 12:33:14 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: colorado tanker

Yep the Democrats have the votes to pass thru the House but it’ll be real close.


42 posted on 07/20/2009 12:34:43 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Nachum

Ain’t nuthin’ old about his ‘style’ of representation and government. Nuthin. There really is a sucker born every minute, apparently in voting booths, too.


43 posted on 07/20/2009 1:19:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: PhiKapMom

“ZERO is by far the most left person to occupy the WH”

My vote for most liberal is Woodrow “KKK” Wilson. The obuma has a way to go to reach Wilson’s fascist administration - 16th & 17th amendments. Resegregating the federal government. League of nations. World War I fiasco. Eugenics.

But we’ll see...


44 posted on 07/20/2009 5:21:34 PM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: RazzPutin

See the tagline I’ve been running for the last month or two.


45 posted on 07/20/2009 8:14:54 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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