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Harlem pastor questions Obama's citizenship
Daily Voice ^ | 7/19/09 | staff

Posted on 07/20/2009 10:22:59 AM PDT by pissant

When we first introduced you to Rev. James David Manning 15 months ago, the controversial Harlem pastor was making headlines in the New York Times for his provocative sermons attacking Barack Obama.

Now, as President Obama marks his first six months in office on Monday, Pastor Manning is back at it again, this time accusing Obama of faking his citizenship.

A sign posted on the marquee in front of Manning's church on Sunday explicitly challenged the president to prove that he was born in the United States, as required under the constitution to become president.

The sign read: "The Blood Of Jesus Against Obama. Mr. Obama Show Us Your Birth Certificate. No Dew Nor Rain."

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1 posted on 07/20/2009 10:22:59 AM PDT by pissant
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To: BossLady

Pastor Manning PING


2 posted on 07/20/2009 10:23:54 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

:-D.


3 posted on 07/20/2009 10:24:34 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: pissant

Rush just mentioned the O BC on his show today.

Manning is great! The snowball is rolling.


4 posted on 07/20/2009 10:24:35 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: pissant

I don’t understand the “No Dew Nor Rain” part.


5 posted on 07/20/2009 10:24:40 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: indylindy

Rush needs to get even more vocal about it. Of course Savage has for months mow.


6 posted on 07/20/2009 10:27:47 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Safrguns

2 Samuel 1:21
“You mountains of Gilboa, let there be no dew, neither let there be rain, on you, nor fields of offerings: for there the shield of the mighty is vilely cast away, the shield of Saul, as though he had not been anointed with oil.”


7 posted on 07/20/2009 10:28:07 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: pissant

He’s the guy that calls Obama a long legged mac daddy.

Some people like him; some people don’t. I think he is right on target.


8 posted on 07/20/2009 10:28:27 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: pissant

Smart Pastor!

Obama is NOT a U.S. citizen otherwise it would be shown.


9 posted on 07/20/2009 10:28:38 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Safrguns
I don’t understand the “No Dew Nor Rain” part.

O mountains of Gilboa, may you have neither dew nor rain, nor fields that yield offerings [of grain]. For there the shield of the mighty was defiled, the shield of Saul--no longer rubbed with oil. 2 Samuel 1:21

I believe Manning has had a campaign with that title as well.

10 posted on 07/20/2009 10:28:55 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: freekitty

Me too. He sounds like a patriotic American to me.


11 posted on 07/20/2009 10:29:15 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
When we first introduced you to Rev. James David Manning...

His name will be changed from Reverend James to "Uncle Tom" Manning in short order.

12 posted on 07/20/2009 10:29:18 AM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: Safrguns

In the OT times certain prophets had the power to hold back rain, or allow rainfall. Generally held back when people were unrepentantly wicked, especially the leaders.

I am glad wehave people asking for O-hole to show his BC. I wish some of them didn’t come off as so bizarre-fringe.


13 posted on 07/20/2009 10:30:26 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: freekitty

Long legged mack daddy perfectly describes Obama.


14 posted on 07/20/2009 10:32:18 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: indylindy

It sure does.


15 posted on 07/20/2009 10:33:44 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: indylindy

I missed it. What did Rush have to say today? (More than just a side-long comment, I hope.) Clearly the wind is rising on this house of cards.


16 posted on 07/20/2009 10:34:23 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: freekitty

Manning has a name for Michelle too.


17 posted on 07/20/2009 10:34:38 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: indylindy

heard that!! He wants to know why he has to prove 16 ways why he doesn’t conduct biz in NY and Obama doesn’t even need to show his BC.


18 posted on 07/20/2009 10:35:39 AM PDT by spiderfern
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To: so_real

It was a little longer and he mentoned it twice. If this gains more steam, he will probably give it more time.


19 posted on 07/20/2009 10:36:07 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: pissant
Classic Manning!!!!! :)

"How much did you get Bill O'Reilly.....", "How much did they give you Sean Hannity", "You sell out", "You betta watch yourself!"

"If I'm a dollar short on my taxes.....You hound me like a dog!"

"Show me da money Mack Daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!"

20 posted on 07/20/2009 10:38:17 AM PDT by BossLady ("WE are the origin of all coming evil" ~~ Carl Jung~~)
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To: indylindy

Yes he does. LOL


21 posted on 07/20/2009 10:38:39 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

I watched his video and almost wet myself while ROTFLANO.


22 posted on 07/20/2009 10:39:15 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: pissant

I like that Mr. Alford too; but he is for Deathcare and that just doesn’t set right with me.


23 posted on 07/20/2009 10:39:40 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: indylindy
"Manning has a name for Michelle too."

Broad-shouldered line backer? (hehehe)

24 posted on 07/20/2009 10:40:14 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: nmh

obama is probably a citizen but he is not a natural born American
It is an important distinction


25 posted on 07/20/2009 10:42:07 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Secret Agent Man; missnry; silverleaf

Thanks... learn something new every day.


26 posted on 07/20/2009 10:42:21 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: pissant
I like Pastor Manning though he can be outrageous at times (particularly when he calls Obama a "long-legged mack daddy"...I presume he means that Obama is a race pimp).

I have wondered at times if Pastor Manning has come to believe that he is one of the Two Witnesses (Revelation 11) against the AntiChrist.

Among other things, the Two Witnesses will have the "power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy" (Rev 11:6).

Interesting that the Church billboard says "no rain or dew."

27 posted on 07/20/2009 10:43:23 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama is "An" AntiChrist...but is he "THE" AntiChrist? The jury is still out...but just barely!)
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To: silverleaf
Interpretation:

At your height of power let there be barrenness on you and what you produce. Your protection from the God you wickedly threw away. Just like Saul (cursed for consulting with the witch of Endor instead of God)lost his way and became as though he never knew God.

Saul was overtaken by his enemies.

28 posted on 07/20/2009 10:46:26 AM PDT by Blu By U
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To: pissant

Having read the entire article, he looks like a reverse racist to me. However, I do agree with the central message.


29 posted on 07/20/2009 10:47:09 AM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: silverleaf
Not sure I understand the application of that verse here unless Rev. Manning is likening the destruction of America by Obama to the death of Saul and Jonathan (anointed as Saul was).

How do you read that?

30 posted on 07/20/2009 10:48:35 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama is "An" AntiChrist...but is he "THE" AntiChrist? The jury is still out...but just barely!)
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To: pissant

All it would take is the release of one document to make this go away.

the fact that it has not happened pretty much tells me all I need to know.


31 posted on 07/20/2009 10:48:38 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedom we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: RWGinger
"obama is probably a citizen but he is not a natural born American It is an important distinction

Indeed it is, but I have to wonder if he was ever declared a naturalized citizen since he never lived in the country for most of his youth.

32 posted on 07/20/2009 10:49:00 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: so_real
I was doing something else but caught part of it. Rush was talking about his constant tax audit situation with NY and how he has to prove he wasn't in the state or they tax him as though he was, but obama doesn't even have to prove he is a citizen.
33 posted on 07/20/2009 10:50:35 AM PDT by GBA
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To: RWGinger
"obama is probably a citizen but he is not a natural born American It is an important distinction

Indeed it is, but I have to wonder if he was ever declared a naturalized citizen since he never lived in the country for most of his youth.
There is also information being whispered that he took grant money as a foreign exchange student, which would prove that he was either NOT a naturalized citizen, or he commited a felony fraud, which would make him a felon and disqualify him from holding office.

34 posted on 07/20/2009 10:51:03 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: pissant
I was wondering
what Ann Coulter thought of the
Birther people so

I Googled for "Ann
Coulter birth certificate"
and two years ago

the 'Rats were asking
for Ann's birth certificate--
they thought she's a man.


Media Snake Oil: Will Someone Ask Coulter for a Birth Certificate? By Bill Hare 06/28/2007



35 posted on 07/20/2009 10:55:56 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: indylindy

Ummm...Okay

I’m glad this is starting to take hold with more and more people’s comments (at least I hope so) but uh...like this was being talked about before the election. I was never so don’t put me down as a “birther”.

All you had to do was do some research leading up to the election to get an idea as to who Pres ent Obama was to realize who this joker was....Heck! My wife (who hadn’t been registered to vote here in Omaha) when I showed her some of the stuff about him and she’s not into Politics, voted Republican (LOL even though now she’s mad at me because they called her up for jury duty shortly afterwards and I never have).

Hello!?!? where was Rush, Glenn, Sean, etc. etc on this before the election. When Dan Rather pulled his little stunt back in the previous election we/they blew him out of the water proving he was a liar. If you’re going to tell me they were worried about being labeled Racist all I have to say is Bovine Scatology!!!

Okay..Okay I know (McLame as some have called him) John McCain wasn’t any better but he was the lesser of the two evils and Sarah P (siigggh) is a helluva lot better than Big Mouth Biden


36 posted on 07/20/2009 10:56:48 AM PDT by Huskr4Bush
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To: Nathan Zachary
I would love to see a mass rejection by our military to his orders until he proves he is Constitutionally eligible to issue them.

Would they potentially be guilty of war crimes if they blindly follow his orders even though they suspect he isn't a natural born citizen and one day he is proven to be ineligible due to citizenship?

37 posted on 07/20/2009 10:57:06 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Mi-kha-el

Manning a reverse racist? How so.


38 posted on 07/20/2009 10:57:26 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

While I’m glad more people are talking about this, I don’t think churches are places to do it.

I have a pet peeve with the use of churches as political pulpits. They should stay out of the political, or should forego their tax-exempt status.


39 posted on 07/20/2009 10:58:45 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: indylindy
Rush just mentioned the O BC on his show today.

Rush's comment today was his most direct comment on the BC issue to date. It showed to me that this really is an issue that is on his mind, but still he waits.

ML/NJ

40 posted on 07/20/2009 11:00:04 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: RinaseaofDs

Perhaps. But blacks are exempt from such laws. How else could Jesse Jagmo, Rev. Al and Calypso Louie have “careers”?


41 posted on 07/20/2009 11:01:19 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: theFIRMbss

Well, she does have more balls than the typical GOP politician.


42 posted on 07/20/2009 11:02:14 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

It’s apparently the case, isn’t it.

I’m actually surprised that Martin Luther King didn’t get caught up by that bit of legality.


43 posted on 07/20/2009 11:03:53 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: BossLady

There is no better comedy coming out of hollywood, that’s for sure.


44 posted on 07/20/2009 11:04:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: chiefqc

He is right on target.


45 posted on 07/20/2009 11:09:08 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Martin Luther King was leading...whereas those mentioned above are merely pandering for cash (not called race whores for nothing).


46 posted on 07/20/2009 11:09:59 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama is "An" AntiChrist...but is he "THE" AntiChrist? The jury is still out...but just barely!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
I have a pet peeve with the use of churches as political pulpits.

I don't care where it comes from as long as people are talking about it. I think of it as a stick in zero's eye.

47 posted on 07/20/2009 11:11:50 AM PDT by Walmartian
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To: Nathan Zachary

Good question, was he ever a naturalized citizen.
His “ vault copy” could show that he was adopted by Soetoro and then would have been “ naturalized” when he went back to Hawaii at age 10 or 11.
So he would be a citizen but not a natural born citizen

Since he refuses to release his Occidental records it could also be that he attended and got aid as a foreign student.
Clearly there is something he doesn’t want seen.
I hope pressure builds over this so even his supporters can see he is hiding something
Our laws mean something and we can’t let obama thumb his nose at them


48 posted on 07/20/2009 11:21:27 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

My interpretation (given the pastor’s context)

If obama (non qualified for the presidency per Constitution) gained office falsely, then though he may appear to be “annointed”, and may even think he deserves to be regardless of (or even because of) his birth, then America will suffer and not prosper because under God, our “shield” has been defiled by his falsehood

But- open to all interpretations!


49 posted on 07/20/2009 11:26:36 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: RWGinger

another theory is that when the adopted son of Lolo Soetero (an Indonesian citizenship gained by the adoption) was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, he did nothing (nor did the adults in his life) to change his legal name back to Barack Obama, and did not restore his citizenship ... which I have read required action on his part after age 18

It appears his name became “Barack” at age 10 because he decided it would be. How embarrassing to have his entire persona turn out to be a fraud. Perhaps all his legal records, not legal because he never changed hs name...legally...and would have lied about it on legal forms, such as his Illinois law license (which like Michelle’s, was voluntarily suspended)

Sasha and Malia Soetero- not quite the same “ring” to it, is there


50 posted on 07/20/2009 11:32:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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