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Kids' lower IQ scores linked to prenatal pollution
Associated Press ^ | July 20, 2009

Posted on 07/20/2009 10:59:11 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

CHICAGO -- Researchers for the first time have linked air pollution exposure before birth with lower IQ scores in childhood, bolstering evidence that smog may harm the developing brain.

The results are in a study of 249 children of New York City women who wore backpack air monitors for 48 hours during the last few months of pregnancy.

They lived in mostly low-income neighborhoods in northern Manhattan and the South Bronx. They had varying levels of exposure to typical kinds of urban air pollution, mostly from car, bus and truck exhaust.

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KEYWORDS: airquality; bogusstatistics; iq; prenataldevelopment
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1 posted on 07/20/2009 10:59:11 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So, the reason kids who were born to “lower income” mothers have a lower IQ is because of air pollution.

At least they didn’t claim the IQ test was racist.


2 posted on 07/20/2009 11:01:13 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Junk Science Alert
3 posted on 07/20/2009 11:01:22 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So that’s why New Yorkers are soooooo stupid.


4 posted on 07/20/2009 11:01:31 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The sample is quite skewed. This is a BS story and study


5 posted on 07/20/2009 11:02:07 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: truthguy

Agreed, more junk science ftw.


6 posted on 07/20/2009 11:02:53 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Boiling Pots
They lived in mostly low-income neighborhoods in northern Manhattan and the South Bronx.

An interesting study which shows that this demographic group has a low IQ and then decides that it's about ... air pollution.

I wonder what Charles Murray thinks about ... air pollution.

7 posted on 07/20/2009 11:03:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't believe anything anyone says about anything anymore.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Only a PC hypothesis is suitable.


8 posted on 07/20/2009 11:03:52 AM PDT by M203M4 (NEW New Deal: A pot through every window! (1/2 credit to Bastiat))
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To: OldMissileer

Hhahahaha...like the study about frogs losing their apetite when their back legs were removed...they no longer jumped to catch flies...


9 posted on 07/20/2009 11:03:54 AM PDT by jessduntno ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BS....lower IQ parents (who have LOWER INCOMES) have lower IQ babies....


10 posted on 07/20/2009 11:05:54 AM PDT by goodnesswins (WHO is Jim Thompson?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What is prenatal pollution? Parents watching Hollywood movies? Yes, I can see the corelation.


12 posted on 07/20/2009 11:06:37 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Once we have Nationalized Healthcare it will be another way to control the people. Also another excuse for the “Global Warming” hoaxers to tax........


13 posted on 07/20/2009 11:07:45 AM PDT by jakerobins ( NO)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
In future studies maybe they should check to see if there's any correlation between the IQs of the parents and the IQs of the children.
14 posted on 07/20/2009 11:08:23 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What a flipping crock.


15 posted on 07/20/2009 11:08:40 AM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Check the IQ of momma as a control.


16 posted on 07/20/2009 11:08:41 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Correlation is not causation.


17 posted on 07/20/2009 11:08:42 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: M203M4
Well, I guess my hypothesis would not fly: Prenatal pollution, in the form of crack cocaine, cigarettes, and Jim Beam linked to lower IQ in kids.

No wonder I could never get funding!

18 posted on 07/20/2009 11:09:03 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Does the air pollution stop at 106th street and First Ave? Maybe it doesn't pass that line. Who thinks of this nonsense? I guess the “researchers” haven't noticed that the “Manhattan Elite” are all moving up town. Buying up all the old brownstones. Must be that the pollution is racist, only attacks poor black and Hispanic people.
19 posted on 07/20/2009 11:09:48 AM PDT by JimC214
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To: Free ThinkerNY

LOL! And the culture has NOTHING to do with it. LOL!

I love these bogus studies. Any excuse to tax us.


20 posted on 07/20/2009 11:10:33 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: PreciousLiberty

>> Correlation is not causation.

Well said.

Although the average reader will understand the meaning of “is not”, and not much else.


21 posted on 07/20/2009 11:10:34 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m sure genetics, drug abuse, poor nutrition, VD, and alcohol abuse had nothing at all to do with it.


22 posted on 07/20/2009 11:11:35 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Jewbacca
Check the IQ of babymomma as a control.

There. Probably fixed it for you.

23 posted on 07/20/2009 11:11:46 AM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As a scientist, I have to ask what they used as a control sample? People in areas with less air pollution? If so, what about other factors not related to air pollution?


24 posted on 07/20/2009 11:11:49 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“CHICAGO — Researchers for the first time have linked air pollution exposure before birth with lower IQ scores in childhood, bolstering evidence that smog may harm the developing brain.”

It also is evidence that most smog is in cities, the very place that dimwitted RAT voters live.

All this study proves is that the RAT base is simple minded, NOT that smog was the cause!

25 posted on 07/20/2009 11:12:34 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I know it is junk science, but the libtards love it, so let us use it to our advantage.

Based upon this study we now can understand the leftist mindset of those in NYC, LA, SF, and Chicago (to name but a few)..............

Liberalism is a mental disorder after all :)


26 posted on 07/20/2009 11:13:33 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gee, aren’t areas of high smog and pollution the bluest of the blue on election maps?


27 posted on 07/20/2009 11:13:41 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder what their excuse is for lower IQ kids born in the Appalachians?


28 posted on 07/20/2009 11:14:00 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Low IQ would Offspring of Zero voters.


29 posted on 07/20/2009 11:14:51 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: I Buried My Guns

WOW, it took all the way to post #18 for the perfects to come out.

I’m impressed, the cigarette canard usually hits at about post 2 or 3.


30 posted on 07/20/2009 11:15:03 AM PDT by Gabz
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31 posted on 07/20/2009 11:16:30 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: DallasMike

“I have to ask what they used as a control sample? People in areas with less air pollution?”

Let’s compare the IQs with Askenazi Jews in Crown Heights, since that presumably has similiar air polution.


32 posted on 07/20/2009 11:18:43 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Did they check to see if the mothers were watching MessNBC while pregnant?


33 posted on 07/20/2009 11:19:17 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Are you in a union job? I'm sorry to hear that.)
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To: Abathar

“I wonder what their excuse is for lower IQ kids born in the Appalachians?”

Well, they are white, and thus inferior by breeding.

Blacks are only stupid when it’s whitey’s fault.


34 posted on 07/20/2009 11:19:45 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This "scientific study" used the premise that selectively choosing statistics will give the sought after result.

It works!

vaudine

35 posted on 07/20/2009 11:21:15 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Back in the 19th Century, this would explain why New Yorkers were morons. Industrial production with extensive use of hydrocarbons was so great that when the wind would shift from the industrial islands, people would drop dead in their tracks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/31pollutionli.html

That being said, dropping IQ points because your mother just moved on to an industrial waste site should be interpreted a little differently if she has lived there her whole life.


36 posted on 07/20/2009 11:21:15 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Boiling Pots

It has a hint; with dominican citizens 73% mixed, 16% white and 11% black, that still leaves the sample with less than 5% white subjects.

All subjects were selected from low income neighborhoods intentionally — kinda making sure the study couldn’t show that smog increased intelligence by exclusion.

There was also no control to ensure that the subjects always wore their monitors or perhaps left them in their residences.

This report was the return on the downpayment meant to justify full financing.

Most preliminary results reach positive matches with the hypothesis of the study for this reason.


37 posted on 07/20/2009 11:22:52 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Jewbacca
"Blacks are only stupid when it’s whitey’s fault."

Or there's money to be made or policy changes to be justified, then they are fine with them being stupid for any reason they can use.

38 posted on 07/20/2009 11:23:50 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“smog may harm the developing brain.”......

After all....Look what Chicago smog did for the White House...


39 posted on 07/20/2009 11:25:26 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: goodnesswins

and parents on METH, heroin, and watching SESAME street all day, instead of out in the marketplace learning...


40 posted on 07/20/2009 11:27:47 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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Re: "Researchers for the first time have linked air pollution exposure before birth with lower IQ scores in childhood, bolstering evidence that smog may harm the developing brain."

This might explain why there are so many liberals around today, and how an Obamanation like Obama can be elected to the highest office in the world.

41 posted on 07/20/2009 11:29:43 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

is the “air pollution” only in the welfare areas? strange, I thought Gore had said it was everywhere.

any excuse is better than admitting that poor parenting, or no parenting at all, does not give the IQ a chance... it isn’t pollution, stupid, it’s stupid government’s intervention into the parenting business.... welfare to non marrieds.... the more kids the more money... then welfare status for life..

The family is a holy unit.... and when it is shunned and overcome with a secular culture, the children pay the most.


42 posted on 07/20/2009 11:29:44 AM PDT by bareford101
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All
"Kids' lower IQ scores linked to prenatal pollution"


43 posted on 07/20/2009 11:31:54 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: ClearCase_guy
I wrote Charles Murray about "The Bell Curve" and received a considerate and informative reply.

Definitely an old school scholar and gentleman.

Mr. Murray would probably be outraged such a study was done without controlling for other factors, such as parental IQ.

If you read further into the article there's this little gem: Dr. Robert Geller, an Emory University pediatrician........ noted fewer mothers in the high exposure group had graduated from high school. While that might also have contributed to the high-dose children's lower IQ scores,

Followed by this whopper: "the study still provides compelling evidence implicating prenatal pollution exposure that should prompt additional studies, Geller said."

Notice in the bold, Geller claims "the study is still valid, even though it really lacks proper control studies.

What an imbecile.

44 posted on 07/20/2009 11:34:58 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: Boiling Pots

How are IQ tests scored? If a 100 means that you scored with the average of the population, does that average drop as the population scores lower. That is, does a 130 mean what it did in the 1950s? When is the bench mark set? After 1000 tests each year? Curious.


45 posted on 07/20/2009 11:35:43 AM PDT by Dutchboy88 (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"Look what Chicago smog did for the White House."

I thought he was born and more or less raised in Hawaii. Can't get any cleaner air than the middle of the Pacific Ocean, I would think.

Now, Kenya . . . .
46 posted on 07/20/2009 11:38:56 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Deb

Could say the same about L.A. Deb,
Hope you are not in L.A., smog heaven.


47 posted on 07/20/2009 11:39:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Patrick)
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To: Gabz
I do not consider the following statement a "canard":

"The ingestion of many carcinogens and poisons during pregnancy may have negative consequences for the unborn child. Said carcinogens and poisons include nicotene and other associated compounds found in burning tobacco, and Jim Beam."

Seems like a no brainer to me, but I am open to contrasting opinions.

48 posted on 07/20/2009 11:41:46 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“The results are in a study of 249 children of New York City women”

I’m thinking maybe polution isn’t the variable they should be looking at here...If the study had been done in some remote mountain community where everyone is related before they get married, would they be blaming it on clean air?


49 posted on 07/20/2009 11:42:36 AM PDT by Spok (Viet vet and father of a Marine in the 1/1.)
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To: Boiling Pots
So, the reason kids who were born to “lower income” mothers have a lower IQ is because of air pollution.

Lotsa folks on this thread who apparently don't understand experimental design.

They directly controlled for "lower income" by selecting subjects in similar socioeconomic conditions; and almost certainly also included an "income" marker in their design, as well as other standard considerations.

The net result was that, income and such being equal, the presence of pollution had a statistically significant effect on IQ.

That's not particularly surprising, actually.

50 posted on 07/20/2009 11:47:21 AM PDT by r9etb
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