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Voting Rate Dips As Older Whites Stay Home [Enabled 0 to Win OH & PA!]
APReport ^ | July 20, 2009

Posted on 07/20/2009 1:43:08 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: RinaseaofDs

And really not that horrible a punt. I just couldn’t punt last year. Of course I live in AZ, being in a non-swing state gives you some cover, in a non-swing state I might not be such a purist.


51 posted on 07/20/2009 2:22:28 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: trumandogz

Of course some white voters who stayed home didn’t deny McCain the Presidency.

What they did was, in their own self-absorption, refuse to stand up against the worst choice of leadership in generations.

We can’t always have our first choice. Most elections feature flawed candidates. We simply have to pick the better of the two (or more), not stay at home and pout if a suberb candidate isn’t in the mix.

And those who stayed home last November now share some of the blame for what we are all suffering. They did nothing — even one small vote — to prevent it.


52 posted on 07/20/2009 2:24:33 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: Rastus

I’m not sure if I’d be more or less of a purist if I lived in a swing state. McCain won AZ, so like you might non-vote didn’t matter. Part of me thinks that in a swing state I might be more willing to just keep the dems out, part of me thinks though that if my vote REALLY mattered I might be more severe. Some projections are having AZ morph to a swing state, guess I’ll find out who I really am then.


53 posted on 07/20/2009 2:25:26 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: Boucheau; All
"The bigger government gets the more it screws with the natural order of things and serves as a pseudo-husband to single females."


54 posted on 07/20/2009 2:27:48 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Steelfish

This points out that we win by motivating our core constituencies to show up and vote, not by pandering to the Left. The Left’s constituencies will not vote for a watered down “Democrat lite” when the real thing is on the ballot.


55 posted on 07/20/2009 2:28:11 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: erkyl
The truth is this: McCain did not energize the base. His global warming, attacks on Bush, "calm down" comments put off people.

Enthusiasm is critical in presidential politics and independents and liberals were enthusiastic for Obama. That's all it takes to win: one side is enthusiastic, the other lackluster.
56 posted on 07/20/2009 2:28:51 PM PDT by Acrobat (I cannot even watch BHO on TV. It's keeping me off TV)
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To: erkyl
Exactly my point. Say what you will about McCain, can any of you McCain haters honestly say that America would have been worse off on July 20, 2009 than we are today if McCain were President?

This is what I don't get. People who compromise day in and day out (can't get this, yet - don't have the cash; that convertible is nice but too impractical - I can't ferry the kids, and their stuff, around in that) suddenly decide - on the one thing in which hundreds of millions of other people also get a say - that unless the GOP candidate agrees with them on every major issue, they're sitting this one out. The only place you might get everything you want is in heaven. Actually, probably not even there - I suspect that in heaven, you get everything God wants.

57 posted on 07/20/2009 2:30:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: ReneeLynn
All the older whites I know in PA were behind Obama.

...and yet right next door in WV, a state with a very white and more aged population, a state where no Republican holds a state-wide office and both Sens. and two out of our three Reps are Rats......McCain won.

58 posted on 07/20/2009 2:34:20 PM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: Roccus; ReneeLynn

PA is heavily Catholic in the two major metros (Philly and Pitt) with sizeable Jewish population on the mainline. WV is made up largely of Scots-Irish protestants, who comprise the core of Sarah Palin’s base.


59 posted on 07/20/2009 2:36:45 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Steelfish

Yup, hope and change.

Wait till the “older whites” can only get assisted suicide counseling instead of hip replacements. Wait till the “older whites” cannot drive their RVs and campers down to Florida due to gas @$10.00

Itell ya the “older whites” are going to be lynched by the younger generations of this country for putting future generations into socialized servitude to pay for all this “hope and change” (aka crap....)


60 posted on 07/20/2009 2:37:19 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Roccus

That was once true in most every southern state. WV and Arkansas, and Lousiana to a lesser extent, are about the only ones left with that alignment. It’ll change once Byrd and Rockefeller leave the scene.


61 posted on 07/20/2009 2:37:19 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Star Traveler

Yeah, I voted for Palin too.

Hmmm...wasn’t there some sour old guy running with her?


62 posted on 07/20/2009 2:37:38 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

You said — Hmmm...wasn’t there some sour old guy running with her?

I’m trying to remember, but nothing comes to mind... LOL...


63 posted on 07/20/2009 2:39:14 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: bushwon
Itell ya the “older whites” are going to be lynched by the younger generations of this country for putting future generations into socialized servitude to pay for all this “hope and change” (aka crap....)

Nationwide, older whites voted against Obama, and the younger generation voted for him.

It's the older whites who need to do the lynchings.

64 posted on 07/20/2009 2:39:48 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
Everyone who did anything at all to make Juan McCain our nominee caused the loss of 2010.

The key move was to institute open primaries.

65 posted on 07/20/2009 2:40:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Steelfish
There's this crowd who thinks they can "punish the Republicans" by staying home.

Of course they always end up with the Antichrist picking their pocket and raping their children, but what the heck, the evil Republicans were punished.

That's such a stupid way of thinking ~ but we had some Freepers (I hope former Freepers) arguing that pint.

66 posted on 07/20/2009 2:40:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 9YearLurker
McCain had it in the bag—once he had Palin to motivate the base—if only he hadn’t gone loopy about TARP!

If he'd have done the Dole thing, resigned fromt the Senate, he wouldn't have had to worry about TARP.

67 posted on 07/20/2009 2:40:51 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: erkyl

Go away. I voted for that puke, McCain, and am tired of being blamed afterwards because the GOP nominates candidates like that.

The Rinos blame us constantly and are ready to have us drink the poison again with Romney. And then he’ll get clobbered, they blame us again and come up with a new Rino.

It’s called insanity.


68 posted on 07/20/2009 2:44:12 PM PDT by Luke21 (If it's the Asspress, it's usually a lie.)
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To: Steelfish
So there you have it. Gallup says single, unmarried, divorced, and widowed white females voted overwhelmingly for 0 and now comes the news, older whites gave 0 a big assist as well.

All the older white males I know voted for Palin(McCain happened to be on the ticket). Maybe this statistic is true, but if it is, the white males didn't give Bozo an assist, the GOP and their crappy candidate that refused to fight for votes and kissed Bozo's a** gave him the assist. The FReepers that blame voters for voting their values or not voting because their values were not present in either of the two candidates are just plain ignorant. The only ones who should be blamed are the GOP officials who allow left wing liberals posing as republicans to run for office.

69 posted on 07/20/2009 2:47:43 PM PDT by calex59 (I, me, myself, am actually Jim Thompson)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Here's a novel idea, actually run Candidates people want to vote for rather than going with the RINO mantra of "vote for the lesser of two evils" so Democrats won't get elected.

You know the process that selected our candidate included democratic voters, right? You understand how the primaries work, right? Not many of us had a choice by the time the democrats had slammed McCain down our throats in the early primaries.

And none of you are answering my question...would we be in this sinking ship if McCain were president today? Would we be frantically and desperately clinging to our Republic as we are now. Would we even be discussing socialized health care and climate control energy taxes? IIRC, McCain's plans on these issues were quite conservative.

So, unless you can prove your principled plan of "I won't vote for anyone unless he's truly 100% conservative" has worked out well for you in this election, you need to reevaluate your principles. They're not working out well for any of us.

70 posted on 07/20/2009 2:48:26 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: Steelfish

This single mother pays plenty of taxes, works plenty of hours, doesn’t need any “sugar daddy” and voted for McKain because the Obamination scared (scares!)the crap out of me and because I thought my country stood a little better chance of survival. I know way too many people who got suckered into the whole “Hope and Change” thing. Well, “change” we got. I “hope” I never have to break out the shotgun to protect my kids.


71 posted on 07/20/2009 2:49:14 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: GeronL

“What did a conservative have to vote for?”

GOTV would have been better with a more honest campaign:

“Vote McCain: The lesser evil”


72 posted on 07/20/2009 2:50:24 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: Clemenza

....and yet it is a Rat state...to the core!

This is a state that lets you vote straight party line by either punching out a single chad or hitting the screen once. Now realize, not a single Republican got voted to a statewide office. That means that each Democrat that voted (more than three to one over Reps.) had to go all the way through the ballot. It seems every Presidential election, the straight party ballots decrease but go back up in the off years. Net results, the Rats still controll the state, but the GOP gets 5 electoral votes.


73 posted on 07/20/2009 2:50:38 PM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: discostu

Arizona? PLEASE draft a challenger to McCain, maybe JD Hayworth or Shadegg or some random conservative activist.
Let him feel some heat from the right wing.


74 posted on 07/20/2009 2:52:08 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: muawiyah
There's this crowd who thinks they can "punish the Republicans" by staying home.

Republicans don't think like most Democrats, something you apparently deeply regret. Nominate some RINO who goes against the conservative Republicans on several major issues, and a fair number will stay home and look for a better candidate next time. Sort of like the RINO Jerry Ford won over Reagan in 1976.

Nothing you or anyone else can do about it.

Not your choice to make, it's theirs.

75 posted on 07/20/2009 2:53:38 PM PDT by Will88
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To: discostu

No, it sucks. You really can’t put any other spin on it. I felt horrible, but no way was I going to pull the lever for a guy that can’t grasp the 1st Amendment. I’m in WA state, which is a province of Russia I think, so I’m not exactly in a swing state either.


76 posted on 07/20/2009 2:55:20 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Will88
It’ll change once Byrd and Rockefeller leave the scene.

With the WV GOP in the total disaray it's in now (and has been for a while) I don't see how that could happen. Rockefeller just won and if Byrd goes before the end of his term four years from now, Manchin will appoint a Rat. (Anne Barth?)

77 posted on 07/20/2009 2:55:42 PM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: Islander7

A shotgun could have cured that issue.


78 posted on 07/20/2009 2:59:41 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Roccus
With the WV GOP in the total disaray it's in now (and has been for a while) I don't see how that could happen.

The voters should realize that voting for a Republican presidential nominee and Dem senators is at cross purposes. Every southern state got away from that except Arkansas, and I think WV will in the next election cycle or two. If Obama and Dem policies damage the coal industry, that might happen even faster.

79 posted on 07/20/2009 2:59:57 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

Nationwide, older whites voted against Obama, and the younger generation voted for him.It’s the older whites who need to do the lynchings.


Sorry uh I don’t think so.

According to article:

....In contrast, turnout for whites 18-24 was basically flat at 49 percent. Asians and Hispanics in that age group increased to 41 percent and 39 percent, respectively.

Among whites 45 and older, turnout fell 1.5 percentage point to just under 72 percent.

Asked to identify their reasons for not voting, 46 percent of all whites said they didn’t like the candidates, weren’t interested or had better things to do, up from 41 percent in 2004.

Uh I think you misunderstand or underestimate the damage done to the economy for the next 50 years....

I am talking about the younger generations who are going to be cast into socialist slavery who were not even old enough to make the economic decisions for themselves that will effect their lives.....Do you think you should lynch them....?!

My daughter, who just turned 18 DID NOT VOTE for him; had she been allowed, she would certainly not have. Yet her future has been severely impacted. Many of the younger ones (like my 2 college aged students) DID NOT VOTE FOR Obama....they leaned towards libertarian/conservative beliefs.

Also, those who are young are by definition naive, not wise?—I know many are clueless and they were sadly sucked in by the cool personna—that’s what being young is all about. However, the older generation (mine and older) have NO EXCUSES—they should have known better!!! That would include the Unions, AARP, & Soc. Sec. crowd who voted him in.


80 posted on 07/20/2009 3:00:10 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Jedidah
"If you didn’t vote for McCain in November as the lesser of two bad choices, just shut up or get busy trying to flip Congress next year. You have forfeited the right to gripe about our current situation, because you helped cause it."

That's horse-feces! Given the choice of Dumb and Dumber, which would be the better choice?

A- Neither. I went third party. The only thing McStain had going for him was Sara Palin.

81 posted on 07/20/2009 3:03:01 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Steelfish
If the right candidate runs, conservatives will walk 10 miles to vote.

Unfortunately, the corrupt two party sham, has left many totally disillusioned and burned out.

82 posted on 07/20/2009 3:04:05 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Steelfish

Actually, the RNC gave the assist.

As I reported at the time (having polled people at my church) many conservatives wont vote for a liberal, even with an R in front of the name.

And even if the country now collapses all at once, this really is better than a slow slide into a two socialist party political situation.


83 posted on 07/20/2009 3:06:58 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: WOSG

I’ve never believed in candidate drafts, but I’m certainly hoping for somebody, anybody really. Just gotta get McCain out without it going to the dems.


84 posted on 07/20/2009 3:11:49 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: RinaseaofDs

You’d think the ground would be ripe for one of the 3rd parties, but they’re wallowing in their own filth almost as bad as the big 2.


85 posted on 07/20/2009 3:13:17 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: discostu

If I were in Arizona, I’d right someone in, maybe myself, just as a protest vote.


86 posted on 07/20/2009 3:16:07 PM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: erkyl

How different do you really think things would be with McCain in? He supports TARP, he supports the GM bailout, he supported the “stimulus”, and he’s a long standing enemy of the 1st Amendment.

It’s not a matter of not voting for someone who isn’t 100% true conservative. It’s a matter of not voting for someone who sucks. McCain is no good. He’s a lousy senator and he would have made a lousy president.


87 posted on 07/20/2009 3:18:02 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: WOSG

He’s definitely not getting my vote next go round. How I’ll not vote for him depends on the candidates presented, but the minute he made campaign finance reform a major career goal I swore off voting for him for any office in any way.


88 posted on 07/20/2009 3:19:25 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: Luke21

No,insanity is what we have in the WH right now. I understand your frustration. I think the tide is turning, and perhaps if we hadn’t elected this marxist, we wouldn’t be turning the tide, so it may serve to be beneficial to our cause that he was elected in the long run. But, the truth is, I would have welcomed moderate McCain if it kept Obama out of power. I think our country could have survived. At least checks and balances would have kept everyone in gridlock. As it is now, Obama is unfettered to wreak havoc on our country to destroy it. And he is.


89 posted on 07/20/2009 3:19:54 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: bushwon
Two quotes from the article: Ohio and Pennsylvania were among those showing declines in white voters, helping Obama carry those battleground states.

Last November, voters under 30 cast ballots for Obama by a 2-to-1 ratio.

My statement that it is the older white voters who should contemplate punishing the young voters for whatever harm Obama brings, rather than vice versa, is 100% true.

The youth vote went big for Obama, while the white vote is the strength of the Republican party, as the RINOs who think we should pander to every minority group in sight never tire of reminding us.

From your #80:

I am talking about the younger generations who are going to be cast into socialist slavery who were not even old enough to make the economic decisions for themselves that will effect their lives.....Do you think you should lynch them....?!

So, why are they voting for Obama 2 to 1? Apparently, they have no clue what they are voting for by 67% to 33%. It is not older whites who elected Obama, but blacks, Hispanics, young people of all ethnics, and leftist whites in the north and on the west coast.

90 posted on 07/20/2009 3:21:55 PM PDT by Will88
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To: discostu

So much harder than you think. Each of the parties are multi-billion dollar non-profit corporations.

Think about that. Worse, look at all the committee rules, and how they’ve been written exclusively for two party rule.

Consider also that the GAAP disclosure rules for non-profits guarantee financial opacity, which is ironic. For profit companies are held to much higher standards in terms of transparency.

Did you know that MasterCard, until recently, was a not-for-profit?


91 posted on 07/20/2009 3:25:38 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

It’s a crazy world.


92 posted on 07/20/2009 3:40:08 PM PDT by discostu (Jeff's imagination has gone beyond the fringe of audience comprehension)
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To: Will88

Ohio and Pennsylvania were among those showing declines in white voters, helping Obama carry those battleground states.

Last November, voters under 30 cast ballots for Obama by a 2-to-1 ratio.

My statement that it is the older white voters who should contemplate punishing the young voters for whatever harm Obama brings, rather than vice versa, is 100% true.

The youth vote went big for Obama, while the white vote is the strength of the Republican party, as the RINOs who think we should pander to every minority group in sight never tire of reminding us.


NO, you don’t understand. Not sure you even read what I said?!

Your statement is not 100% true or false—it is your opinion; opinions don’t carry percentage values of true or false.

The white vote obviously did not vote Republican/for McCain—they stayed home or voted Obama—otherwise McCain would have won. I don’t know how many college aged voted for Obama as a percentage of the total population, but the under 20 group in total is only 27% of total population (only 18-20 year-olds can vote, so not that high a percentage of total population). They did not do it alone & like I said if you had read the post, they are lacking wisdom by definition. They spend 4 years going to college to get a degree to be employable and thereby contribute to society;and often, many of them in the process sadly are indoctrinated with liberal thinking. That is the reality of higher education. It then takes a few years of real-world experience & paying for everything themselves (including taxes) to shake off all the BS they learned in libe3ral studies classes. I am not making excuses for them, but the others who are older who voted for the dear leader like I mentioned Unions, government workers, SOC. Sec. Medicare, etc. they should have know better....

However, you misunderstand & I wish you would have read what I posted before. I am talking about younger generations who cannot even vote yet?! Young teens, just 18 year olds, etc. You cannot hold them accountable can you?!!!

...Just for starters prior to all the new spending we are going broke on social security, medicare, medicaid. These are not programs that were approved or voted for by younger generations or those who voted for Obama yet they are being asked and will be asked to pay even higher rates in the future when the hyperinflation kicks in. This is likely when my daughter graduates from college and has to start paying 70% taxes. Add to that the spending (now estimated to be perhaps as high as 23 TRILLION?!) That has occured since January—it is not fair to them. Period.


93 posted on 07/20/2009 3:53:18 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait till it is free! "~ PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Will88
I think you want to discuss a different topic. If so, I'm happy to argue the place of the bi-modal saddle in the analysis of the voting public in this country.

If you want to discuss RINOs we can talk RINOs but you've got to agree to the correct definitions and not wobble all over the place. And Fur Shur, don't screw up what "Country Club Republican" means ~ it doesn't mean a guy who plays golf.

94 posted on 07/20/2009 4:25:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Sarajevo
That was so stupid of you. With McCain there was a chance we could retrieve our country from destruction but with Obama there is no chance.

All you did was usher in the Apocalypse.

95 posted on 07/20/2009 4:28:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Steelfish
The reason: Older whites with little interest in backing either Barack Obama or John McCain stayed home.

Little interest? LITTLE INTEREST? God, I could line these people up and slap them! The future of the country wasn't interesting enough for them?


96 posted on 07/20/2009 4:37:48 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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To: bushwon
What you don't seem to be taking into account is that the black vote and Hispanic vote makes up about half the Dem. vote each election. So, Dems win national elections with 90%+ of the black vote and 70%+ of the Hispanic vote. Add about 40% of the white vote and they win. - Those %'s are close, and some research would give more exact breakdowns.

Republicans win the white vote by significant margins, and have for several decades in presidential elections.

The white vote obviously did not vote Republican/for McCain—they stayed home or voted Obama—otherwise McCain would have won.

McCain won the white vote, but the Dems' huge margins in the black and Hispanic vote gave them the election.

Roosevelt began the programs that started us toward our current mess, then LBJ added to them greatly in the 1960s. Both parties have contributed to our deficits the past 30 or so years, but nothing has been previously attempted that would add as much to the deficit, and debt, and interest expense as what Obama proposes

No, you can't blame those under 18, but we can sure blame the starry eyed and incredibly naive college aged and twenty somethings who went 2 to 1 for Obama in some sort of immature, pack mentality common to college aged kids.

Who you can really blame are the leftists, and those who vote with them: Liberal white, black Americans, Hispanic Americans, and all sorts of narrow interest groups like feminists and gays and environmental extremists, who have members from all ethnic groups.

But Republicans do win the white vote, and have for decades.

97 posted on 07/20/2009 4:43:08 PM PDT by Will88
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To: erkyl
"And none of you are answering my question...would we be in this sinking ship if McCain were president today?"

Yes.

Next Question.

98 posted on 07/20/2009 4:44:15 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (will work for bailout bonus.... Twitter: maddawggmorgan)
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To: Cinnamontea

You are so correct. I think the bastard Huckabee needs to shoulder much of the blame here. Because of his spat with Rpmney, he telegraphed Evangelicals to stay home. He also split the New Hampshire vote that allowed McCain to get back his momentum. I hope he NEVER runs again.


99 posted on 07/20/2009 4:45:51 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: erkyl
"So, unless you can prove your principled plan of "I won't vote for anyone unless he's truly 100% conservative" has worked out well for you in this election, you need to reevaluate your principles. They're not working out well for any of us."

Never said I needed a 100% Conservative, I'm just not voting for a 10% Conservative because he/she happens to have an "R" after his/her name. If that's how you wish to roll be my guest, I'm just not going down that road ever again.

Remember "McInsane" halted his campaign to run to Washington to hand out Bailout Bucks. I Held my nose to vote for him and its the last time that will ever happen.

BTW "Mitt ain't itt!" (No matter how many polls the RINOS produce saying he is running neck and neck with Barry Hussein.) BTW McAmnesty lost Ohio for one reason and one reason only, that useless Liberal RINO Governor Taft and his whole dirty cabal of thieves and Politiclowns that destroyed the Ohio G.O.P.

100 posted on 07/20/2009 4:53:55 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (will work for bailout bonus.... Twitter: maddawggmorgan)
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