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Ron Paul: Troofer?
Little Green Footballs ^ | 7-21-09 | Little Green Footballs

Posted on 07/21/2009 9:14:52 AM PDT by TitansAFC

An idiot from a “9/11 Truth” group cornered Ron Paul recently and asked why he hasn’t “come out about the truth about 9/11.”

Paul’s answer: he has too much to do, and he can’t handle the controversy....

(Excerpt) Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; nutball; paul; paulistinian; ron; truther
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1 posted on 07/21/2009 9:14:53 AM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

Most likely just trying to give the brushoff to a nut job. You can’t reason with those people, best to just humor them and move on. I don’t like Paul much but I think there’s nothing to this.


2 posted on 07/21/2009 9:25:15 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TitansAFC

I’m not a big fan of RoPaul, but this smells more like another piece of Charles Johnson’s yellow journalism than anything else. Please come back with this when you have a more credible source.


3 posted on 07/21/2009 9:27:14 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: TitansAFC

Ron Paul is not a Truther - if by “Truther” you mean someone who thinks 9/11 was an inside job. If you attend any speeches the guy gives, you’ll see that he says it was a bunch of arabs pissed off at the US for our foreign policy.


4 posted on 07/21/2009 9:30:16 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: TitansAFC

I think Ron Paul is just smart enough to know that he shouldn’t be associated with the kookie idea.


5 posted on 07/21/2009 9:33:22 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: TitansAFC

It’s LGF for crying out loud.


6 posted on 07/21/2009 9:34:05 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: MichiganConservative

And that we deserved it... Please give his whole opinion.


7 posted on 07/21/2009 9:40:02 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: GulfBreeze

What of it? America deserves what it is getting with Obama, too.


8 posted on 07/21/2009 9:43:17 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: TitansAFC
It wouldn't surprise me. Remember his association with Alex Jones?
9 posted on 07/21/2009 9:44:10 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Go to Hell and get out! Go somewhere else you commie bastard! Go take your troofer freinds and start a gay hippie pot commune!


10 posted on 07/21/2009 9:44:54 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: GulfBreeze

HAHAHAHAHA.

Our government is a malignant force for evil in the world. Don’t you agree with that?

Most of the time, they’re doing evil to the slaves that live in the USSA.

Go fly your flag somewhere. Let me guess, you think this is a free country, right?

The people in this country need to fall on their knees and ask God to forgive them and accept Jesus Christ’s scrifice for their sin, not continue reveling in it. Then they need to start living more God-Centered lives. Then maybe America will return to being a beacon of righteousness in the world.


11 posted on 07/21/2009 9:51:45 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Stuff it you creep. You have about zero understanding of the Lord’s tender mercies on this land.

Why don’t you head down to Chavez’s little commie paradise and hate together with him. Don’t forget what David did with the laughing punk who came and reported what happened to Sual’s family and don’t forget what happened to many lands that rejoiced in the down fall of Israel. America may have it’s faults and sins but these are your country men you worthless POS and you don’t deserve to live amonst them.

You are trash and the worst of the worst. A little religous hypocrite hater. YOU had better go back to the cross and remember how much was forgiven of you. You had better remember the little bit of scripture, “There but for the Grace of God go I...”


12 posted on 07/21/2009 10:03:15 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: GulfBreeze

hey, at least Obama is continuing the War in Iraq and Afghanistan. I mean, the guy is increasing troop levels. The war was the most important thing, right?


13 posted on 07/21/2009 10:03:37 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: GulfBreeze

Did you say the same to Jerry Falwell when he basically said the same thing?


14 posted on 07/21/2009 10:04:32 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: GulfBreeze

Oh, I get it. Venezuelans elected Obama. Right.

American’s didn’t elect Obama or Congress, so American’s don’t deserve what they’re doing. OK. Sure. Got it.


15 posted on 07/21/2009 10:06:20 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: MichiganConservative

What ever, surrender monkey. I am glad he is getting more troops into Afghanistan. Our troops will get the job done if they are just given the chance.


16 posted on 07/21/2009 10:06:32 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: MichiganConservative

Whatever you POS smug punk. Go see how free other places are, go somewhere else and lick it up like the conspiracy dog you are.


17 posted on 07/21/2009 10:08:05 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: jalisco555

This is coming from LGF. Chuckles Johnson’s obsessions haunt him (Ron Paul, Fox News, DHS “right-wing” report, Robert Spencer, conservative blogs and my personal favorite, the evils of creationism) he even ran a hit piece on Jim Robinson the other day.

The man is pathetic and beyond pale. Please, never link him again.


18 posted on 07/21/2009 10:08:28 AM PDT by Liam2007
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To: MichiganConservative

Don’t be a puss! Man up. This ain’t about Jerry Falwell you America hater. This is about your stupid mouth going on about what America deserves. You are a freakin’ idiot surrender monkey. You are worthless.


19 posted on 07/21/2009 10:10:12 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: GulfBreeze

You must be off your meds. I’m no commie and no conspiracy monger. But, you’re full of rage, it seems.

Other countries suck more? Ok. I agree. But you can’t actually argue that this is an objectively free country.

Please tell me how America does not deserve the consequences of it’s government’s actions. Tell me how the people that elect fools and commies don’t deserve the consequences of those people’s follies.


20 posted on 07/21/2009 10:11:24 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: Liam2007
The man is pathetic and beyond pale. Please, never link him again.

Well, I'm not the one who did the linking. That said, Johnson is on the right side of some issues, such as Israel and Islamo-fascism, and the wrong side of others. But I'm sure that to call Ron Paul a Truther is ludicrous.

21 posted on 07/21/2009 10:12:42 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: GulfBreeze
You are a freakin’ idiot surrender monkey.

You've got a lot of names to call people.

22 posted on 07/21/2009 10:12:59 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Look, when you respond “What of it?” to the fact that Ron Paul and others have basically alluded to the fact that we somehow “deserved” what happened on 911. Or that this whole nation “deserves” the ills that Obama is trying to load on it you are getting on my fighting side.

God never said for the lost within a nation to humble themselves and pray. God said “if MY people, who are called by MY name” humble themselves in prayer, then he would heal their land.

There is nothing in their about spouting off and claiming that any of that kind of cr@p wis deserved. That is for God to say and sure not for anyone else to say about their own country in general.

We have risked fortunes and families and lives and livelyhoods to free OTHER people around the world. And that’s a fact.


23 posted on 07/21/2009 10:18:48 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: TitansAFC

Well, I am not a “truther” but I know that RP has a big following amongst them.

RP may not want to say anything that would alienate some of his base.

As far as I know, RP has never made any statement that would indicate that he himself is a “truther”.


24 posted on 07/21/2009 10:19:42 AM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: GulfBreeze

RP never said “we deserved it”. He said US presence on Saudi Arabia was motivation to the terrorists.


25 posted on 07/21/2009 10:21:32 AM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: GulfBreeze

If you watch one country go commie and fail after another decade after decade and then you decide to do the same thing, you get what you deserve. I think Americans will get what they deserve from electing socialists.

How can a country that elects socialists not deserve the socialism they enact?


26 posted on 07/21/2009 10:24:55 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: GulfBreeze

GB,

Try to win the debate with ideas, not anger and insults. Your way is self-defeating.

If you are right, your idea will win.

~SC


27 posted on 07/21/2009 10:26:50 AM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: MichiganConservative

And what will you get?


28 posted on 07/21/2009 10:29:39 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Palin 2012 - For The Change You Wanted!!!)
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To: MichiganConservative

“Ron Paul is not a Truther - if by “Truther” you mean someone who thinks 9/11 was an inside job. If you attend any speeches the guy gives, you’ll see that he says it was a bunch of arabs pissed off at the US for our foreign policy.”

He HAS said that it was an inside job, and he has even said that he’s willing to team up with dennis kucinich (of all people) to conduct a new investigation.

In fact many of the senile old coot’s supporters are troofers themselves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq_7251dqc8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d91a13Yr3oQ&NR=1


29 posted on 07/21/2009 10:30:03 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: GulfBreeze

I guess I got to be a slave to the tyrannical imperial federal government of the USSA.


30 posted on 07/21/2009 10:31:35 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: jalisco555

My bad, jalisco555. Meant to hit subby’s post.


31 posted on 07/21/2009 10:32:41 AM PDT by Liam2007
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To: MichiganConservative
"Our government is a malignant force for evil in the world."

Uh Oh

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32 posted on 07/21/2009 10:33:56 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: camp_steveo

“He said US presence on Saudi Arabia was motivation to the terrorists.”

The mere fact that we breathe is motivation enough for them.


33 posted on 07/21/2009 10:38:18 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
In fact many of the senile old coot’s supporters are troofers themselves:

We have several at here at FR who are troofers. When you call them out you get silence.

34 posted on 07/21/2009 10:42:19 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: MichiganConservative

“Truther” you mean someone who thinks 9/11 was an inside job”

Exactly how did someone who thinks 9/11 was an inside job become a “Truther”

I don’t think it was an inside job but I believe there was more to it than we have been told.

Two events that stand out in my mind are a C141 leaving Charleston, SC, heading northeast like a missile was on it’s tail, shortly after the attacks. Remember that because I had never seen a C141 flown like that before and have often wondered where it was going in such a hurry.

The second thing I remember where reports of people running/being sought in South Carolina through Alabama. Nothing ever came of these reports, were ghosts being chased (possibly) or were things going on that have never been revealed.

I think the Anthrax Attacks are the stranger part of it and am in no way convinced it wasn’t related to 9/11. Does that make me a “Truther”.


35 posted on 07/21/2009 10:42:21 AM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Responding to a tin foil hat wearing interviewer does not imply a belief in the assertions being made by the questioner.

RP has made his beliefs very clear, and 9/11 being an “inside job” is not it.


36 posted on 07/21/2009 11:13:22 AM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: camp_steveo

He has stated NUMEROUS TIMES that there should be another investigation into 9/11.


37 posted on 07/21/2009 11:59:24 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Like when? I would like to read the quotes and examine the context.

Thanks, ~SC


38 posted on 07/21/2009 12:18:34 PM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: MichiganConservative
hey, at least Obama is continuing the War in Iraq and Afghanistan. I mean, the guy is increasing troop levels. The war was the most important thing, right?

Iraq is hardly classified as a "war" these days.

I've seen "war" in Iraq and this ain't it.

39 posted on 07/21/2009 12:23:53 PM PDT by Allegra ( Socks)
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To: jalisco555
Most likely just trying to give the brushoff to a nut job. You can’t reason with those people, best to just humor them and move on. I don’t like Paul much but I think there’s nothing to this.

I think you're being too generous to Congressman Paul, and I actually like the guy. If he doesn't believe in the 9/11 Truth garbage then he should have the courage to politely but clearly state as much. He likes to trumpet his commitment to principle but then he plays along with these people so as to not risk losing their support.

Of course, you can't expect perfection out of anyone, and certainly not from politicians.

40 posted on 07/21/2009 12:37:02 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: 2CAVTrooper
He has stated NUMEROUS TIMES that there should be another investigation into 9/11.

That doesn't necessarily make him a Truther. I don't think the government was behind 9/11 but there are aspects of it that might warrant further investigation. Things like intelligence failures leading up to the event, connections to other terrorist activities, flaws in our immediate response, etc.

41 posted on 07/21/2009 12:43:50 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: armymarinemom

I have seen his bunch give out flyers for 9/11 Truther flims many times.

Paul is a total loon

Ron Paul excused Al-Qaeda’s attacks on America: In the single most repulsive moment of the entire Presidential race so far, Ron Paul excused Al-Qaeda’s attack on American with this comment about 9/11,
“They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been
bombing Iraq for 10 years.” In other words, America deserved to be attacked by Al-Qaeda.

L Ron Paul blames American interventionism in the Middle East for out problems with them and why the attacks of
Sept. 11. Paul called it blowback

This is the sort of facile comment you’d expect to hear from an America-hating left winger like Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky, not from a Republican


42 posted on 07/21/2009 2:00:42 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol
I have seen his bunch give out flyers for 9/11 Truther flims many times.

And so Ron Paul has the same beliefs as all of his fans or people who take advantage of events to hand out their literature? What if those beliefs conflict? Does he hold both conflicting views at the same time?

L Ron Paul blames American interventionism in the Middle East for out problems with them and why the attacks of Sept. 11. Paul called it blowback

Do you actually find it impossible to believe that our muzzie?

What if a terrorist came up and told you he was angry about US intervention in the middle east and that's why he was doing what he was doing? Would you tell him he's lying and that he must have some other reason?

43 posted on 07/21/2009 2:07:49 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: MichiganConservative

The IslamOfascists declared war on us including killing thousands on 9/11

Of course the attacker- enemy IslamOfascists would rather kill than be killed.

You must also blame the Jews for the Nazis.


44 posted on 07/21/2009 2:12:39 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol
So you'd tell the terrorist he doesn't know his own motivations? You just dodged the question.

You must also blame the Jews for the Nazis.

There is no comparison. The analogy is nonexistent.

45 posted on 07/21/2009 2:18:20 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Your SH** is word for word as the DU and KOS fascists
I have heard you SH** directly from the Code Pinkos


46 posted on 07/21/2009 2:23:29 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: MichiganConservative
Do you actually find it impossible to believe that our muzzie?

Should be: Do you actually find it impossible to believe that our actions could never piss off some terrorist muzzie?

47 posted on 07/21/2009 2:24:03 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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To: SoCalPol
“They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years.” In other words, America deserved to be attacked by Al-Qaeda.

I disagree with the way you characterize his words. Paul is giving an explanation, not a justification.

Suppose a guy goes walking down a dangerous inner city street at 1:00 a.m., carrying a big sack of quarters. He gets mugged, and then I say "That guy shouldn't have gone through that part of town." I'm not saying that the victim did anything morally wrong, nor that he didn't have a right to keep his money, nor that he shouldn't have the right to walk anywhere he wants at any time.

If I said "he shouldn't have done that" I'm really not making a moral statement at all. I'm just saying that the mugging was fairly predictable given the circumstances and that the victim's behavior was not prudent. My statement would mean that I think the victim "deserved" what happened to him.

48 posted on 07/21/2009 2:27:00 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: SoCalPol

You know the traditional Republican position was to just let the muzzies kill each other. ‘

But, oh no, now we have to go spread Wilsonian “Democracy” around the world to every hell hole on earth.

All that does is get us resented as a busybody, impoverish us at home, and give cover to statists that want to increase the size and scope of government to destroy your liberties and further enslave you.

Fools like you cheer along as chains are tighted about you. Fools like you got us Obama. Thanks a lot.


49 posted on 07/21/2009 2:27:18 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Your government has harmed mankind more than all the evil done by evil men in the name of my God.)
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Oops. The last line in post #48 should have been:

My statement would NOT mean that I think the victim "deserved" what happened to him.

Sorry.

50 posted on 07/21/2009 2:30:46 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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