This birther nonsense becoming a big problem for the GOP (ROFL)

Atlanta Journal Constipation ^ | 7/21/09 | Jay Bookman

[pissant]

Here’s Mike Castle, a Republican congressman from Delaware, trying to deal with the birther nonsense at a town hall meeting back on June 30. It really gets a little spooky when the woman hijacks the meeting with an impromptu demand for the Pledge of Allegiance. It’s hard to imagine a more vivid example of how easily false patriotism can trump reason and common sense.

Apparently, CNN’s Lou Dobbs — always on the lookout these days for a fringe issue to ride — is also jumping on the bandwagon.

[pissant]

ROFL. More like a big problem for the State Run Media, Jay. You are being FORCED to actually cover the story and you don't have the 1st clue about the issues involved.

Even more a problem for your 1/2 black, 1/2 baked, faux president. We are going to rip his birth records from his cold, marxist fingers.

[y6162]

Why is it a problem for the GOP? We have our birth certificates.

[Obadiah]

Now I know there is some traction. When the state-run media try to invert the truth and blame Republicans for issues that impact them, then I know we are very near over the bombing target.

[La Lydia]

The comments on the site are pretty funny, too.

[Graybeard58]

Why is it a problem for the GOP? We have our birth certificates.

I'd have to dig around for mine but could probably find it within an hour. How many hours has zero had?

[EveningStar]

The author is correct.

Birther alert!

[mkcc30]

My Pastor always says that “When you throw a rock at a pack of dogs the one that yelps is the one that got hit.”

[F15Eagle]

lies, Lies, LIES

It’s becoming a real concern for Barry’s lemmings

[A_Former_Democrat]

Hey Jay, why don’t you just ask your messiah to produce an authenticated birth certificate and the issue will go away, right?

What are you afraid of, Jay? Your boy might not measure up after all?

[ckilmer]

A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

In July 2009 a Ghanian newspapersays of Obama that ""For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American president on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth," The American Thinker explains here why Obama's short form released by fightthesmears is not sufficient for Hawaii. There is evidence to suggest that the home named in the newspaper archived article as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by a couple not Obama's parents. Even the Honalulu Advertiser has a different address of record for Obama's father than the one listed newspaper birth listing. The hospital where Obama claims he was born--refuses to either confirm or deny that he was in fact born there--and that despite the fact that Obama has said he was born there in writing--and presented the hospital a memo to that effect...right after he was elected. What's more newspaper accounts of his birth place him in other hospitals around Hawaii. None of these will comment either.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511

Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information. In this video of Obama's reaction to the break in...he says twice that his reason for being concerned about the matter is not that he is concerned about what the records may reveal about himself...but rather etc. One denial is ok. Two denials in short order is of a piece with the other anomolies in his record.

[ckilmer]

Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org(this is cached as the original was taken down) by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually. Ah here is the cached version.) Here is a better cached versionHere's a thi rd Kindly cache these too.

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipe dia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents. Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Obama is going to Africa. Will he visit Kenya? Nope. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so.(However, as of july 2009--eight months after the election-- Hawaii changed their rules so as to make the short form legal.There is even evidence to suggest the online "certification of live birth"--ie not a birth certificate--obama presented... was a forgery. See the press conference out take here.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.

Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".

A bill in the US congress with five backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate. The library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises. The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.

[Frantzie]

Isn’t the Atlanta Journal close to going under. No wonder these papers are almost dead. the sooner the better. We need to work on CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNBC and any other lib TV networks.

[taxtruth]

I heard o’s been looking for 46 or 47 years for the thing.Maybe it will finally show up.

[lefty-lie-spy]

FALSE PATRIOTISM!!!!

Lick my sac*, MSM.

WE, here, are the the ones we’ve been waiting and longing for.

[Dallas59]

But the left has no problems with “prosecuting” Bush, Cheney and Rice for “war crimes” against “freedom fighters” ...

[exist]

Hey Dems, Rinos, MSM: IT'S NOT GOING AWAY!

[pissant]

With any luck, the dumbsh*t rinos that are afraid to expose Obama will leave the GOP.

[ChocChipCookie]

Birthers are whacked-out kooks, but 9/11 Truthers are sane people who only want to know how deeply involved was President Bush in the attacks on the WTC. Makes perfect sense to me.

[Deb]

I seem to remember the Democrats going after McCain over being foreign born. Who doesn't think the looney Left would be conducting exactly the same movement if McCain hadn't lost?

I'm sure Jay would be writing pieces about how "important the issue" was and the "rule of law" if the White House contained a Republican.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Where’s The Birth Certificate billboard up in Los Angeles on I5. Check it out.

[Da Coyote]

“...It’s hard to imagine a more vivid example of how easily false patriotism can trump reason and common sense.’’’”

A more graphic example of why the MSM is ignorant could not be produced.

Atlanta Constipation: We can talk patriotism anytime. And we can talk science any time. And we can talk foreign policy anytime. I’ll whip your Obama in any argument, anytime. Please go back to poetry or some other useful harmless thing and leave the thinking to us.

[Servant of the Cross]

Then you are someone who can answer this question for me:

Why has 0bama gone to all the effort and significant expense of hiding his actual birth certificate?

As a comment to the article states, "Common sense would dictate you wouldn’t spend a dime hiding it if you didn’t have to or need to. So why is he?"

[cripplecreek]

No kidding. McCain actually had to prove he was a natural born citizen under the law.

[wastoute]

Give Zero 6 more months of incompetence and his poll numbers wil be disastrous. In order to avoid a complete implosion in Congress Dems will be calling for the COLB. Watch, it will be hillarious (maybe even Hillaryous). Her Heinous may even help turn the knife before it is all over. Just when we were starting to think the time for popcorn was over, too.

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[WilliamofCarmichael]

It's no problem for the Kennedy family wing of the GOP.

Headline?

Schwarzenegger adopted, raised by Austrian family
I Was Born In Hawaii Says California Governor
Certificate of birth posted on Arnoldin12 webpage

[cripplecreek]

Don’t worry, he’s going to procuce the BC and prove us to be fools....any minute now.

yep

any minute now.

[freedommom]

I READ THIS COMMENT ON ORLY TAITZ WEBSITE

obama +deception+need for cover=??

The outbreak we had in May was declared a level 5 pandemic by WHO and the US govt.. (When two or more countries are involved, that makes it a level 5.) THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS IS THAT WHEN THE NEXT OUTBREAK OF THIS PANDEMIC OCCURS THIS FALL OR LATE SUMMER, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE A LEVEL 6. WHEN A LEVEL 6 OCCURS, THE GOVERNMENT HAS THE “DUTY” AND “RIGHT” TO QUARANTINE ITS CITIZENS, DECLARE MARTIAL LAW, REMOVE ALL WEAPONS, SEARCH YOUR HOME, MANDATE INNOCULATIONS, ETC. IN OTHER WORDS, THE PRESIDENT BECOMES A DICTATOR!

[cripplecreek]

I'm hoping Daniel Hannon will run for president.

[EveningStar]

With any luck, the dumbsh*t rinos that are afraid to expose Obama will leave the GOP.

Yes. Let's make the party smaller. That will help us win elections.

[EveningStar]

Thank you, Mister Copy ‘n’ Paste.

[Ben Ficklin]

There is at least one good thing about the birther issue.

WND and Free Republic stopped talking about the NAU.

[McGruff]

With any luck, the dumbsh*t rinos that are afraid to expose Obama will leave the GOP.

Yes. Let's make the party smaller. That will help us win elections.

So you support RINOs and mock BIRTHERs. Good luck here.

[longtermmemmory]

1. the AJC newspapre is a group of nutjobs.

2. it is only a problem if Obama produces a correct birth certificate.

3. I think the left is protesting this one a bit too much. If anything this should be a problem for Obama since he has never produced his birth certificate.

4. Me thinks they doth spin too much.

[EveningStar]

I support winning elections for us.

[Beckwith]

Are you still here?

[astyanax]

Your comment says more about your lack of knowledge on the subject than it does about anyone else...

[Marty]

I told the GOP people who called not to ask me for any more money until such time as they had the guts to ask the questions and demand the answers on the birth certificate issue. Maybe there are others like me? Enough of us not giving funds and maybe the GOP will get the idea.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: Government can "MANDATE INNOCULATIONS"

I have a 9mm inoculation device. Will I be able to use it to avoid their inoculation devise?

.. it also serves as neat implanting devise to counter government implants

[WilliamofCarmichael]

I've had to release my long form birth certificate several times as my duty/obligation as an American citizen.

Why should it the big problem for Obama to release his?

All we are saying
is give release a chance.

[AliVeritas]

Heads up front page:

Plaintiffs’ Brief Opposing Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss (Kerchner v Obama - w/Historical NBC ref)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2297589/posts

You saw this before... right?

http://freedomedium.com/2009/07/obama-signs-executive-order-barring-release-of-his-birth-certificate/

BTW, this was mailed to me FYI:

JUST A REMINDER! Those of you who support Major Cook’s efforts to simply get answers to a very important question concerning Barack Obama’s constitutional qualifications, please note:

TONIGHT, TUESDAY, JULY 21 - 9:00 PM EASTERN
MAJOR STEFAN COOK WILL BE ON THE ANDREA SHAE KING SHOW!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ASKShow/2009/07/16/The-Andrea-Shea-King-Show

Question: How do arrange a meeting with the Mormon leader that gave O his gene history today?

[pissant]

Fortunately, Duncan Hunter got his amendment passed that prohibited funds for the SPP and NAU planning back in 2007.

[Obadiah]

Not sure where you got that, but the WHO web site states we are currently at the Phase 6 level. Their site also describes a Phase 6 level as follows:

Phase 6, the pandemic phase, is characterized by community level outbreaks in at least one other country in a different WHO region in addition to the criteria defined in Phase 5. Designation of this phase will indicate that a global pandemic is under way.

[rod1]

“Spooky” is that Jay Bookman pretends to be a reporter but apparently needs no first hand information (what birth certificate did he personally see?) before reaching a conclusion.

[patriot08]

Excellent..keeping posting it.

[CaliforniaCon]

RE: “We are going to rip his birth records from his cold, marxist fingers.”

************

YES! I want the information, NOW! And I want more — the school records, grades, all of it. Reveal yourself, you fraud!

Tell me how we rip the records from his marxist hands and I’ll be there!

[pissant]

BUMP

[CaliforniaCon]

RE: “Watch, it will be hillarious (maybe even Hillaryous). Her Heinous may even help turn the knife before it is all over. Just when we were starting to think the time for popcorn was over, too”

********

Don’t you think the Clintons have their minions working on this? I do — most definitely! They may smile at Zero to his face but I’d give anything to know what’s said behind the scenes.

[PhilDragoo]

[<1/1,000,000th%]

What’s wrong with a Kenyan birth certificate?

[john mirse]

Hawaii high-ranking officials---yes, even the Republican Governor---should be publicly and heavily criticized until they answer the following question concerning the terms "African" and "Negro" used in Hawaii birth certificates:

"Hawaii officials: You say publicly that you have personally seen Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate.

"So, Hawaii officials, is Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate the only one in the history of Hawaii birth certificates where a parent is classified as "African" instead of being classified by the more common term used in 1961 of "Negro"?

"Hawaii officials, if you refuse to tell us why Obama's father is classified on Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate as "African"---you have no reason to hide the information because Obama has already publicly displayed his short form birth certificate where his Kenyan citizen father is classified as "African"--- then I accuse you of wrongdoing, and you should face criminal charges.