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Thune-Vitter Self-Defense Amendment, National ccw reciprocity to be considered in U.S. Senate
Ohioans For Concealed Carry ^ | 07-20-2009 | Ohioans For Concealed Carry

Posted on 07/22/2009 5:18:33 AM PDT by Total Package

U.S. SENATE TO VOTE ON YOUR GUN RIGHTS WITHIN 4 HOURS CALL AND E-MAIL YOUR SENATORS NOW TO VOTE FOR THUNE-VITTER AMENDMENT

The U.S. Senate will vote at 11:30 a.m. today-- Wednesday, July 22 -- on an amendment to protect your right to self-defense. The anti-gunners are now doing everything that they can to defeat this amendment and the vote by your Senators is likely to determine the outcome. So it is critical for you to call and e-mail your Senators now and urge them to support and vote for the Thune-Vitter Amendment.

The Senate is now considering an amendment by Senators John Thune (R-SD) and David Vitter (R-LA) that will provide interstate recognition of Right-to-Carry licenses and permits. New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his "Mayors Against Illegal Guns" -- and other anti-gun leaders and organizations -- are running ads and spreading lies to scare your Senators into opposing this important self-defense reciprocity reform.

It is crucial for you to contact your Senators today -- now -- and urge them to support and vote for the Thune-Vitter Self-Defense Amendment.

The National Rifle Association is reporting that an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (S. 1390) will be introduced in the U.S. Senate today that would provide for interstate recognition of concealed carry permits.

Under the Thune-Vitter amendment, an individual who has met the requirements for a carry permit, or who is otherwise allowed by his home state's state law to carry a firearm, would be authorized to carry a firearm for protection in any other state that issues such permits, subject to the laws of the state in which the firearm is carried.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; righttocarry; secondamendment

1 posted on 07/22/2009 5:18:34 AM PDT by Total Package
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To: Total Package

THere are at least 4 Democrats supporting this one
Baucus and Tester from Montana
Harry Reid
and another one who i cannot recall
i think it has a decent shot at winning


2 posted on 07/22/2009 5:21:59 AM PDT by DM1
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To: Total Package

As I’ve said before, this amendment will likely pass this hurdle. Anti 2nd Amendment dems allow it to go forward (even Harry Reid says he will vote for it) only to give political cover to the dems for the upcoming elections. It will be killed in committee with the House and no Senator will dare vote against the underlying bill to fid our troops. So, the antis can campaign on their “record” vote of “yeas” while knowing it will have no effect on our right to carry.


3 posted on 07/22/2009 5:23:14 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Total Package; Joe Brower
BANG!


4 posted on 07/22/2009 5:24:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DM1
HARRY REID?? "THE" HARRY REID???
Unbelievable! Didn't see that one coming!!
5 posted on 07/22/2009 5:47:13 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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To: TexasRedeye
...underlying bill to fid our troops.

Excuse me. The keyboard must be at fault.

Should be "to fund our troops."

6 posted on 07/22/2009 5:47:24 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: TexasRedeye

But,we’re too dumb to know that, being the sheep that we are....or so they think!


7 posted on 07/22/2009 5:48:22 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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To: Total Package
I'm not sure this is a good idea. Federal legislation regarding CCW will soon be followed by Federal STANDARDS and REGULATIONS regarding CCW.

In a Democrat-controlled federal govt, this would not be good.

8 posted on 07/22/2009 5:50:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: gimme1ibertee

yep the Harry Reid
apparently he gets NRA endorsement year to year so on at least one issue the man does not totally nauseate me
a broken clock can be right twice a day after all


9 posted on 07/22/2009 5:55:00 AM PDT by DM1
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To: PapaBear3625
The Fed already regulates the transport of firearms between states. If you have a gun grabbing state you can still transport your firearm through the state without being a felon.

This would just allow for easier transport an carry in states with ccw. If a state does not allow ccw you would not be able to carry you would default to the federal transportation laws. The fed would not be able to tell states no one could ccw.

The true gun grabbers want more the just no ccw.

10 posted on 07/22/2009 6:03:42 AM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE and the death of freedom)
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To: Total Package

Emailed Lugar and Bayh. FWIW.


11 posted on 07/22/2009 6:05:32 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (This is the worst economic crisis since Brittney Spears shaved both ends!)
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To: Total Package

I am kinda torn on this one. I am a ccw holder here in the peoples democratik republik of michiganstan, but I cannot help but wonder if this is a states right issue....


12 posted on 07/22/2009 6:30:46 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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To: joe fonebone

I do see the states rights side but the way I read the constitution, I should not have to get my CCW from Ohio (go blue). I should be able to carry anywhere any time from state to state with out the governments permission to CCW. If this helps to chip away at that wall that stops that right I see it as good thing.


13 posted on 07/22/2009 6:42:53 AM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE and the death of freedom)
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To: DM1

LOL...you’re right about that!


14 posted on 07/22/2009 6:58:28 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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To: Total Package

on the negative side, what the feds give to you, they can and will take away.....and we have seen the constitution be damned attitude of the current crop of libs ( and rino’s )


15 posted on 07/22/2009 7:04:46 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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To: Total Package

I agree....if you’re legal enough to be issued a CCW permit,then you should be legal enough to carry in any state.
I do,however,go along with the law (in some states) that someone cannot carry while in a bar...not a good idea. If someone’s going to drink,don’t be packing heat in a bar.Testosterone and alcohol are not a good mix,and the carrier may open themselves up to all kinds of legal grief for shooting someone who may or mat not have deserved it,but was at the time “intoxicated and not in control of his or her mental faculties”. Best to just not carry in a bar,period.


16 posted on 07/22/2009 7:05:14 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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To: gimme1ibertee

mat=may
oops!


17 posted on 07/22/2009 7:06:20 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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18 posted on 07/22/2009 7:38:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

If it does pass, when could we expect it to go in effect? I hate note being able to carry when I go visit the folks in Kalifornee-ah.


19 posted on 07/22/2009 7:45:57 AM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: Total Package

Don’t get your hopes up. If this passes in the Senate, Pelosi will kill it in the house. That woman would be right at home in Nazi Germany.


20 posted on 07/22/2009 7:47:14 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: Total Package

If there’s democRATS supporting this, then I expect that their support would be in trade for something. And I expect that something to be either national socialist healthcare or a variation of the Cap-and-Tax bill.


21 posted on 07/22/2009 7:51:31 AM PDT by meyer (Obama's failure is America's Success.)
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To: Total Package
It's dead...


22 posted on 07/22/2009 9:43:50 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: gimme1ibertee

>I do,however,go along with the law (in some states) that someone cannot carry while in a bar...not a good idea. If someone’s going to drink,don’t be packing heat in a bar.

My only problem with this is that in Idaho, I’m a designated driver for a group of friends on some days, and therefore we voted that I’m the guy that carries a gun on those days. Works out real well for all involved. In Washington I wanted to go to a concert but could not because they don’t let me carry in “any establishment serving alcohol.”

I would be perfectly happy if those laws were amended to allow people to carry but not drink or drink but not carry. I’d even go with a duty to inform barman clause.

But the blanket ban hurts people that go to entertainment functions that happen to also be in bars.


23 posted on 07/22/2009 10:15:43 AM PDT by Ortega
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To: gimme1ibertee
>>”If someone’s going to drink,don’t be packing heat in a bar.Testosterone and alcohol are not a good mix...”<<

I agree. Guns and booze don't mix. Just like booze and driving. Even back in the old days when I was a youngster (1880’s) the saloons made you hang your holster at the door or turn it in to the barkeep.

On the other hand, a nice restaurant with a bar attached (separate from the dining area) would be totally different.

24 posted on 07/22/2009 10:56:04 AM PDT by panaxanax (Obama is an illegal alien.)
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To: panaxanax
On the other hand, a nice restaurant with a bar attached (separate from the dining area) would be totally different.

Oh yes! That is certainly different. I was talking mostly about the neighborhood clubs and hangouts where people go to do one thing-drink and get drunk.
25 posted on 07/22/2009 12:31:57 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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To: Roklok
That woman would be right at home in Nazi Germany.

Frau Blooker! LOL
26 posted on 07/22/2009 12:33:53 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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