Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Drug-resistant swine flu in Canada : Tamiflu ineffective in Quebec case
Canadian Press ^ | July 22, 2009 | Helen Branswell

Posted on 07/22/2009 8:06:41 AM PDT by george76

Canada has recorded a case of Tamiflu-resistant swine flu virus, in a Quebec man who had been given the drug to prevent infection.

Meanwhile, Japan revealed Tuesday it had found a second such case of Tamiflu resistance, in a person who has no ties to the country’s earlier reported case.

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; drug; flu; flupandemic; g78; h1n1; influenza; pandemic; quebec; resistant; swineflu; swinefluvirus; tamiflu; virus
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-37 last
To: SamiGirl

NAC is

People with certain kinds of diseases use NAC.
Here is a little discussion about NAC flu which is a side effect for them. I don’t know if “normal” people get the same side effect.

other things to use:


dont use
Echinacea because that can increase the Cytokine storm.

another great thing supposedly is

curcumin (anti inflammatory) but you have to take it with bioperine to help it absorb

If you go to the KITCO website gold forum and look for the swine flu thread you will see a post about percussing the chest. He provides a link to youtube showing his method. That is where I read about leaning the person over the bed to get their stuff out of the lungs.

You cup your hands. Youtube has other methods. Maybe a doctor on FR can talk more about that.

21 posted on 07/22/2009 9:02:39 AM PDT by RummyChick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

22 posted on 07/22/2009 9:45:30 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

um yeah that is why i saw i was concerned

23 posted on 07/22/2009 9:56:43 AM PDT by DM1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: RummyChick

Thanks so much for your reply. I will save all of this information.

24 posted on 07/22/2009 11:12:23 AM PDT by SamiGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler

Please consider the facts.....

In the U.S., an estimated 25–50 million cases of the flu are currently reported each year — leading to 150,000 hospitalizations and 30,000–40,000 deaths yearly. If these figures were to be estimated incorporating the rest of the world, there would be an average of approximately 1 billion cases of flu, around 3–5 million cases of severe illness, and 300,000–500,000 deaths annually.

So in the grand scheme of things what does any of it all mean. Is 65,000 any more than any other year????

25 posted on 07/22/2009 2:17:56 PM PDT by styky (All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: styky

You said — So in the grand scheme of things what does any of it all mean. Is 65,000 any more than any other year????

Well, I would say yes, in this case. You supplied figures of 300,000-500,000 deaths, worldwide, annually. So, let’s take the projected figure of 65,000 deaths in just the U.K. and see how that compares.

If we took the 300,000 and the 65,000 figures, we would have the U.K. with almost 22% of the worldwide deaths. Or perhaps the 500,000 figure, we would have the U.K. with about 13% of the worldwide death figure.

I don’t know about you, but that sounds like a lot to me — and that’s just one country. When you start figuring in all the other countries you’re going to end up with a huge figure there.

And then, when you see that there are about three flu pandemics per century (on the average over the last three centuries), and that the last one was 41 years ago — that’s another thing that is very significant. Being that the last one was 41 years ago, that’s way over the average, by many years. So, one could say that we were “due” for another pandemic by the average figures per century.

And another thing, when you figure that this strain of the A/H1N1 flu virus can *also* be happening right along side the “seasonal flu” too — then you’ve got even more problems. Those figures that you were giving were for the seasonal flu. And that’s fine. But, guess what — the seasonal flu will be going on right alongside the “A/H1N1 flu pandemic” virus. You can (and *will*) have both going on at the same time. And an immunity or resistance to one is not going to provide an immunity or resistance to the other.

And one more thing, the A/H1N1 flu virus is related to the 1918 flu virus which is called worst medical/disease disaster in world history, even surpassing the Plague of the Middle Ages. We haven’t seen if this is going to mutate and change and become more deadly. These things do have a tendency to mutate and change as they go along.

I would say that the A/H1N1 flu pandemic of 2009 is quite significant...

26 posted on 07/22/2009 3:05:15 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: george76

thanks, bfl

27 posted on 07/22/2009 4:00:37 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; null and void; ...

micro ping

28 posted on 07/22/2009 4:02:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: george76

“It’s the problem with influenza, right? Either we’re going to see small numbers of these and they’re just going to kind of appear periodically and we’re all going to worry or it’s going to go big,” McGeer said.

And then what do we do?

29 posted on 07/22/2009 4:14:14 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RummyChick
I'd reccommend a couple of drops of eucalyptus oil in your vaporizer to help break up mucous, and, if so inclined a small amount of Benadryl Children's elixr (about 1/2 teaspoon for an adult, but the least effective dose) to help break up tnacious mucous as well.

Postural drainage, and changing posture to permit gravity to aid in moving mucous out of different portions of the lung assists as well.

For the really tenacious mucous, laying on the stomach with a pillow at the base of the rib cage can help, as the patient's body weight helps compress the diaphragm and add force to the cough, helping push the nasty gunk out.

All are 'tricks' I have used with good effect in the past.

30 posted on 07/22/2009 4:20:42 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping... (thanks, neverdem!)

31 posted on 07/22/2009 4:21:39 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe

Thieves Oil, which you can make yourself, has eucalyptus in it.

I am going to make a batch of it up and diffuse it in the air. I am going to try Eucalyptus radiata. You can rub thieves oil on the soles of your feet - supposedly it gets into your system faster that way.

I don’t know much about herbs and such. But the nastiness of this swine flu has made me think outside the box.

32 posted on 07/22/2009 4:40:41 PM PDT by RummyChick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Star Traveler
H1N1 Flu: A Worst-Case Scenario

Dr. Jennifer Ashton Discusses U.S. Estimates of Infection, Hospitalization and Death if All Went Wrong NEW YORK, July 21, 2009

(CBS) While we're nowhere close to what government planners say would be a worst-case scenario, health leaders at all levels have spent years planning for one. What they found was a grim picture of what could happen if a virus like H1N1 gets severely out of control.

The worst-case scenario report, CBS News medical correspondent Dr. Jennifer Ashton said on "The Early Show" Tuesday, predicts that about 30 percent of the U.S. population -- 90 million Americans -- could be infected.

The worst-case scenario plan also estimates 9.9 million hospitalizations, 1,485,000 intensive-care-unit admissions and 1,903,000 deaths.

The statistics, Ashton said, are based on a computer program that tracks and forecasts a path like a hurricane's. Part of the estimates, Ashton added, are based on infection patterns in the 1958 and 1968 influenza pandemics.

But with the World Health Organization estimating in May that 2 billion people could be infected next flu season, how likely it is this scenario?

Ashton said, "Hopefully not likely at all, but again, we want to prepare for a worst-case scenario, because they have social, medical and economic impacts."

Talking about worst-case scenarios is not meant to scare people, but rather to make them prepare. So how can you prepare?

Ashton said planning means talking to your employer to find out if you can work at home when you're sick or finding out what plans are in place at your children's schools. People should plan to check on homebound, elderly, impaired or sick neighbors in case the person who delivers care to them becomes sick himself.

"All of this is planning and it is critical," Ashton said.

The government is also preparing."It's a huge economic issue that the government is looking at," Ashton said.

Ashton said the regular flu season is also a concern because it takes a "huge medical and financial toll."

"We're going to hear more and more about vaccines and general influenza awareness," Ashton said.

As for vaccines, Ashton said swine flu is still evolving, but there's likely going to be two vaccines.

She said, "People should really talk to their doctors about getting both of them."

33 posted on 07/22/2009 6:34:03 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: george76

I noticed some of the Walmart cashiers are wearing gloves. I wonder if this is why.

34 posted on 07/22/2009 7:06:15 PM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DM1

Especially since tamiflu resistant cases have popped up on opposite sides of the world before this.

I am taking 5000iu vit D3 daily.

35 posted on 07/22/2009 8:45:47 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SamiGirl

(1) N-Acetyl-Cysteine 600 mg
N-Acetyl Cysteine, or NAC, is the potent antioxidant form of the amino acid, L-cysteine. It functions as a protector of cells from oxidative stress, and it also raises glutathione levels to protect the liver.
Some of NAC other functions include the removal of lead, arsenic, mercury, and other toxins from the body; the support of the immune system; and the removal of mucus from the lungs dues to bronchitis or influenza.

36 posted on 07/22/2009 11:01:19 PM PDT by BellStar (May the Fourth be with you all year long!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: george76; All

US federal officials say the country has purchased 195 million doses of swine flu vaccine for its possible autumn vaccination campaign.

Question: How effective will these doses be, if the virus mutates? A development which some have predicted as likely.

37 posted on 07/24/2009 12:20:37 PM PDT by Fithal the Wise
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-37 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794 is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson