Skip to comments.What isnít Bachmann telling us about Obamaís birth certificate?
Posted on 07/22/2009 2:56:09 PM PDT by pissant
Why wont Michele Bachmann come clean about her views on President Obamas birth certificate? For a congresswoman who flaunts suspicions about the U.S. Census, foreign currencies, the Federal Reserve and Obamas allegedly anti-American views, shes been strangely silent on the rampant (and roundly disproven) rumor spread by so-called birthers that Obama was born outside the United States.
Bachmann isnt yet, for example, counted among the 10 Republican co-sponsors of U.S. Rep. Bill Poseys H.R. 1503, a bill requiring presidential candidates to provide copies of their birth certificates. But a lot of her friends are, as Daniel Nichanian at Campaign Diaries points out:
Interestingly, [U.S. Reps. Dan] Burton and [Kenny] Marchands [sic] addition to the list means that a majority of the Posey bills sponsors are now also co-sponsors of Michele Bachmanns paranoid foreign currency-banning constitutional amendment (the other 3 are Posey, [U.S. Reps. Marsha] Blackburn and [John Abney] Culberson). We are here talking about the congressmen who are closest to movement conservatives.
(Nichanian may mean to say that half the sponsors of the birther bill also back Bachmanns, but thats still a swell segment.)
Bachmanns fans, such as one who left this comment at Bachmanns YouTube channel, are begging her to probe the whereabouts of Obamas birth certificate:
(Excerpt) Read more at minnesotaindependent.com ...
Damn, you’re on a roll today, P-ant! amazing how many stories are coming out simultaneously on this...talk about a captured industry. what next? Some “reporter” asking why Sarah Palin hasn’t weighed on the birthgate?
uh huh. I think they are beginning to protest just a little too much
All the MSM claim this and believe each other's conclusion.....same as the "settled science" of global warming.
It's mere hearsay passing between members of their circular firing squad.
They believe only what they choose to believe and facts mean nothing to them.
This is how they buried the Monicagate story. The liberal media talked about incessantly and over-saturated the public until they got tired of hearing about it. Expect them to do the same to Certifigate.
The reply all GOP politicos ought to give is:
“I haven’t studied this issue b/c I’ve been working too hard to defeat 0bama’s radical healcare plan, cap and tax, etc. I take the President at his word that he is an American citizen.”
Let the blogosphere run with this and if 0bama eventually produces a legit BC they can say they weren’t a birther; and if he doesn’t they can say they were - SHOCKED, MIND YOU, SHOCKED - that the President broke his word.
The MSM has been ignoring this story and its buildup of months. The damn broke when Rush and Dobbs started chirping in and an MSM paper covered the freeper/officer who demanded proof from Obama before he would deploy, and was subesequently fired from his job (as well having his orders to to deploy revoked).
Someone in the WH has decided that today they needed their allies in the media to crush the birther stories.
You will note however, that not one of the media stories coming out even mentions that there is a long form BC that he has spent in excess of $1 million to keep hidden.
Wrong on two counts right there....not disproven ...and the question is Natural Born Citizen not place of birth. Oh how the panic is spreading!
At birth she was brain dead, but the body carrying it around managed to survive.
Just stick to the fundamentals here; the basic question: why is Obama choosing to fight this in court to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars; rather than just allowing the hospital in Hawaii- where Obama rests his claims - to release his authentic birth certificate? He has NOT YET allowed this. NO MATTER WHAT YOU READ!
Get your frikin heads out of the sand; and be the journalists you are supposed to be.
This story re Obama; and Michelle as 'fashion icon'; while two very different starting points; offers clear example of how stupid you are; in your thinking; 'how stupid' WE are.
(As for spending the money; buying the time; is Obama hoping to drag this issue out until he has his 'own' Supreme Court' in place?)
They know Obama is not legit.
Disproven by what, exactly? Such statements are pathetically transparent attempts to sell a lie by constant and pervasive repetition. But the truth is that assertions prove nothing—although they do justify requests for the evidence and logic that backs them up. So where is it?
From silence to blasting out articles meant to discredit the “kooks”.....this is great.
Is being a Birther a conservative litmus test? If Michele Bachmann thinks the Birthers are silly, does that make her a RINO?
Welcome to FR.
Fear . . . I smell FEAR.
RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
Desperately in need of fixing. Happy to help.
Nope. Just asking the current occupant of the People’s House to do what every other Federal employee has to do.
Bachmann is entitled to her opinion just as you are. And welcome to FR.
Yes, you are on a roll and I thank you for doing that work for all of us to read. They are about tossing their cookies after the Cook case. That one scared them!
It also freaked them out to see obama pull a fast one to get out of the requirement of presenting his documentation to a court of law. Now they know, like we do, that he is a fake and that is why they are in a panic! They know it is a constitutional crisis could be exposed to the public at any moment.
Buyers' remorse. The economy sucks and now can't be blamed on Bush. Gubmint healthcare and Cap and Tax will drive it into the ground and "zero" is raising taxes on everyone. The drive bys can't dodge the fact that they were instrumental in getting him elected and now want to put a little buffer zone up by reporting on an actual logical and relevant issue.
"zero" has a perfectly forged Certificate of Birth from Hawaii or he actually has a real one because he was born there. He is waiting to produce it to damage the Repubs in a public way.
Since there aren’t more than a smattering of republicans in elected office with the balls to call him on this, it won’t matter one bit.
I’ll gladly eat all the crow they can dish up, however, when they show me his BC and his college records.
“Zactly. The Pubbies are spineless. There were/are so many ways to go on this. The birth certificate/eligibility issue, terrorist and radical friends, his hatred for America and Whites in his own words, Rezko and the land deal and political contributions, massive voter fraud involving acorn, massive illegal fund raising from soros and foreign donors...
Yet I can’t think of more than two republicans that have given any of these a glance.
That’s cause they are gutless, spineless, no nuts... Sarah is about the only one with a big voice that brought up his terrorist/radical buddies.
“”zero” has a perfectly forged Certificate of Birth from Hawaii or he actually has a real one because he was born there. He is waiting to produce it to damage the Repubs in a public way.”
Once speculation I have read is that his Hawaii birth certificate says he was a “home birth”, when he was actually born in Mombasa, Kenya. This might explain why he hasn’t had problems reentering the USA since childhood. Obama has claimed he was born at Kapiolani Medical Center, while his sister has said he was born at Queens Medical center. His college records probably report him as a foreign student, so they must also remain sealed.
Then the original will have his home address, the location of birth?
Are you sure about that, or does this represent the leftist strategy of keeping conservatives running around on a circle on this issue and also getting the general public to marginalize those same conservatives. It appears to be a change in strategy by the leftists in order to use the issue to their own benefit...
If you want to go to a legitimate news source that has been on the Obama birth certificate issue for a long time now and does so *consistently* go to WorldNetDaily...
They even pay to have billboards put up around the United States asking Where is the Birth Certificate?... I dont know of any other news source anywhere that has paid to put up these kinds of billboards all over the country.
If youre interested in the Obama Birth Certificate issue, youll find a lot of older articles from them on it, and they always have new articles coming up all the time. They are always hammering away at this issue and its a new source that is well worth supporting by going and clicking on their links.
Keep up on the birth certificate issue on WorldNetDaily...
[... I love WorldNetDaily, as theyre a fine news website... :-) ...]
You use whatever counter strategy that floats your boat.
“It appears to be a change in strategy by the leftists in order to use the issue to their own benefit.”
We now have a precedent, thanks to Major Stefan Cook and Orly Taitz, that following orders is voluntary in the Army. All you have to do is say “Obama isn’t really President”, and your orders will be rescinded, in order to keep Barry’s qualifications from being judged in court. Can this go on and on for 3 1/2 more years? Stranger things have happened, but I doubt it. In any case, it’s fair to say that Hollywood would never buy this script.
You said — You use whatever counter strategy that floats your boat.
Of course, the counter strategy, which is the most effective in counteracting that, is to post here and let as many people know about it as possible...
Justice is an impartial discovery, hearing and ruling of the evidence.
The Kangaroo Court of the media and the blogisphere is not the place to judge the accusations.
This case is not just about a 48 year old piece of paper but our Constitutional Right to petition the government for a redress of our grievances. Right now Mr. Obamas defense has been that we the people have a right to petition for redress of our grievances but the government has no obligation to respond. The evidence requested by the plaintiffs is simple to produce. Less than $100 would probably do it, versus the millions of dollars already spent to fight these lawsuits.
Mr. Obama needs to face his accusers and make his case. The right to petition our government for a redress of our grievances and to be heard and judged impartially is something I will give my life to defend.
God Bless you and your families.
I’m trying, unsuccessfully at times, not to be completely rude to you. You don’t deserve that. But I’m quite content giving myself advice on strategy. Others, yourself included, can do what you want, but I’m not interested in arguing the merits of what I’m doing.
I sorta doubt that this is a precedent that anyone is going to abide by in a court of law... LOL...
Look here for “precedents”... :-)
The precedent on an issue is the collective body of judicially announced principles that a court should consider when interpreting the law. When a precedent establishes an important legal principle, or represents a new or changed law on a particular issue, that precedent is often known as a landmark decision.
Just a brief description... you can go into it a lot more...
...It appears to be a change in strategy by the leftists in order to use the issue to their own benefit...
exactly what you are doing
You said — exactly what you are doing
Except for the fact that they are leftists and I’m conservative..., a little difference there... :-)
Same way they “disproved” the swiftboaters.
Why post here if all you know how to do is call names? Are you incapable of understanding the difference between the COLB and the actual birth certifying document with the name of the doctor and the hospital and other information not on the COLB?
It certainly is.
We should stop being insane. It harms the country. Let the other side be insane.
Should have heard Brian Williams on the NBC Nightly News spewing about the “birth certificate conspiracy theory” tonight. Out right lies, and many more half truths.
They are still covering mightly for The One.
You have a very odd definition of insanity. When someone goes to great lengths to misrepresent matters by saying all over the web that a document is proof of that which is demonstrably not proof of and spends considerable sums in court avoiding have the actual document thus falsely referred to from being exposed there is nothing insane about wanting to know what the truth is.
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