NBC lies about Obama's birth certificate and eligibility to be President \

Examiner.com ^ | July 23, 1:33 AM | geoff linsley

[Red Steel]

Last night, 7/22/2009, NBC’s Nightly News with Brian Williams took 5 minutes to try to refute widespread claims across America that Barack Obama isn’t actually a natural born citizen, conveniently before Barack’s 8:00 p.m. sale of Health Care Reform to the people.[1] The Constitution states that, in order to be President, one must be a natural born American Citizen.[2] Nightly News reported that “legal scholars, liberal and conservative alike, are in widespread agreement that Barack Obama is fully qualified.”  The report then states that the Supreme Court has never verified what a “natural born citizen” really is. Both of these statements are utterly false.

 

There are two ways someone can be a natural born citizen. The first way is what Obama’s campaign claims: that Obama was born on U.S. soil. Obama does have a birth certificate registered in Hawaii, but Hawaiian law allowed for babies were weren’t born on U.S. soil to become registered as Hawaiian citizens.[3] This Hawaiian birth certificate does not in any way mean that Barack is a natural born citizen. Also, no one in Hawaii claims to have witnessed Barack’s birth. Currently, Obama’s true, Kenyan birthplace is a tourist attraction. There you can find his grandmother, who proudly tells that “Barack was born in this village” and that she was present during his birth. His half-brother and half-sister also substantiate this claim. 

 

The only other way Barack could have been a natural born citizen was for both of his parents to be U.S. citizens.   At the time of his birth, his mother was an Indonesian citizen and his father was a subject of the British Crown. It is argued that his mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of Obama’s birth: she did have documented citizenship in the U.S. Indonesia, however, doesn’t recognize dual citizenship; and the U.S. only recognizes dual citizenship if the other country the individual claims citizenship with does. Therefore, Obama can’t be a natural born American Citizen via his parents either.

 

Before Barack was inaugurated, a New Jersey man named Leo Donofrio bravely created an emergency appeal regarding Obama’s qualification to be an American president and sent it to the Supreme Court to be reviewed. Without explaining why, the Supreme Court turned down the emergency appeal and soon after the media completely hushed about the dilemma.[4]   Since then, a slew of other lawyers across the country have also attempted lawsuits without making any real progress.

 

There are also many other questions raised about Obama’s birth certificate. If Barack is truly a natural born U.S. citizen, why hasn’t his campaign effectively disproved the claims that he isn’t? Wouldn’t this be a simple conspiracy to silence? Even more pertinent, why did Obama spend $688,316 in legal fees to lawyer Perkins Coie for battling the birth certificate conspiracy?[5] Why is the Supreme Court rejecting these cases without warrant? Why is NBC shooting out such pro-Obama propaganda to the public? Don’t be fooled by it – the “conspiracy” is far from debunked. As of right now, the evidence is leaning against Obama, showing that he, according to the Constitution, should be immediately expelled from office.

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[1] javascript:vPlayer('32091472','ac679625-c0aa-4935-b90c-1d4ef95579d1')   This link should feed you to the story.

[2] Artilce Two, Clause 5

[3] http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm

[4] Jones, Tim. “Court won’t review Obama’s eligibility to serve.” Chicago Tribune. Dec 8, 2008.

[5] http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=5762

 

[Red Steel]

Actually, it's really one way to be a NBC. Born in the US to US citizens...otherwise carry on.

And he's correct about the Natural Barack Network (NBC) lying.

[gov_bean_ counter]

A point that I have rarely heard brought up is that Obie's defense against these lawsuits has always been plaintiff's standing, never any suggestion that a valid birth certificate has been produced. Amazing that these newsies would argue a point of law never put forward by the defendant.

[rawcatslyentist]

The only one conspiring is Stinkerbell.

Why no BC, BO?

Why are you conspiring to hide it?

No DO can cover the stench of my BO!

[John Valentine]

Glad to see you caught that one. There are a lot of people who conflate “native born” and “natural born”. One is a commonplace expression, the second is a term of art, with one very specific meaning; one that hasn’t changed since the Framers used it back in the 18th century.

[csense]

bkkmk/BC/legalfees/footnote5

[Jeff Gordon]

Is this a serious question? How could the Obama worship network act in any other manner>

[markomalley]

Actually, it's really one way to be a NBC. Born in the US to US citizens...otherwise carry on.

In which case, McLame wasn't one either.

Since the U.S. Constitution doesn't define the term, Congress has the right to do so...and they have (8 U.S.C. §1401)

Other than that minor detail, both in your assertion and in the article's, I thought it was a good piece.

Now, having said that, it becomes doubly confusing why he won't release his actual birth certificate (the one with the baby footprints and the OB signature). Because regardless of where he was born, due to 8 U.S.C. §1401 and by virtue of Stanley Ann's citizenship, he's qualified for the post.

My theory:

• if he was actually born offshore, although he would, per 8 U.S.C. §1401, be qualified. And, Freemen and Citizen Grand Juries aside, the courts would find that way, as well. But, he would have lied to all of his supporters and to his sponsors (Soros, et al). While his supporters are mind-numbed lemmings are malleable enough to buy whatever story (we are at war with Eastasia…), I don't think his sponsors would be so forgiving.
• if he was born, as he asserts, in Honolulu, there's got to be some reason for his not releasing the original BC. Think about it: there "should" be no reason not to request the State of Hawaii to provide access to the original Microfilm that has his actual birth certificate, right? And, with the "Where's the Birth Certificate" movement gaining momentum, despite the media assault, it is going to become more and more of an imperative. This isn't going away anytime soon. Thus, there can be only one reason why he has sunk so much money into suppressing any and all efforts to provide the original B.C.: there's got to be something on there that he doesn't want us to see. I don't know what that is and won't speculate as to what it specifically might be, but it's got to be something that would be hugely politically damaging.

So, press on.

But know the facts.

[Red Steel]

Since the U.S. Constitution doesn't define the term, Congress has the right to do so...and they have (8 U.S.C. §1401)

I know the facts better than most. I've see that US Code 1401 at least a dozen times over the last year and nowhere does it address the issue of Natural Born Citizen as it pertains to the eligibility of the US presidency. What the statue does define are US Nationals and Citizens.

So press on.

[Kegger]

Since the U.S. Constitution doesn't define the term, Congress has the right to do so...and they have (8 U.S.C. §1401)

... But know the facts.


Are you citing the current law? Wouldn't use the law as written at the time of BHO's birth, not current law?

[Godebert]

"Since the U.S. Constitution doesn't define the term (Natural-Born), Congress has the right to do so...and they have (8 U.S.C. §1401)"

That code defines citizenship....NOT Natural-Born status. Perhaps you should learn the facts.

[Godebert]

http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html

[tophat9000]

bump

[Samurai_Jack]

I’m not a lawyer but you seem like a reasonable individual...
From your link...
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401——000-.html
“(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;”

His mother is a person born in the US and ‘arguably’ was physically present for a continuous period. Perhaps this defuses the issue?

Also see Subsec (g) which spirals around the language to almost point directly to BO, which was amended in 1986.

http://uscode.house.gov/uscode-cgi/fastweb.exe?getdoc+uscview+t05t08+5071+102++%28Title%208%20%3E%20Chapter%2012%20%3E%20Subchapter%20III%20%3E%20Part%20I%20%3E%20Section%201401%29%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20

I’m just asking from a laymans point of view. Where precisely in the law COULD it be argued that this president is a natural born citizen by way of ANY law. Notwithstanding the notion that we may need to apply laws as they were written in 1961 when he was born. That’s a separate argument.

And if such a law could be found, WHY hasnt the media and the “legal scholars, liberal and conservative alike, [WHO] are in widespread agreement that Barack Obama is fully qualified.” simply cited the relevant legal code and be done with it?

Enquiring Minds Wanna Know!

[DavidFarrar]

Under the heading of Natural Born Defined: Your site speaks of parent(S) being U.S. citizens, as represented here by Rep. Bingham comment on Section 1992, "Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parent(S) not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866)."

Under the definition contained in the website you have so generously given us then, Barack Obama is not, and was not, qualified to take the oath of office of the Presidency of the United States.

ex animo

davidfarrar

[Red Dog #1]

“At the time of his birth, his mother was an Indonesian citizen...”

I'm not tracking with you on this part...Stanely Danham met and married Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii about 1966. What connection would she have had with Indonesia prior to this?

[Red Dog #1]

markomalley,
IMO, If I had to bet money on why he's hiding his birth certificate, I'd go with your option number two. A “long form” Hawaiian birth certificate was posted on FR several weeks ago. Beyond the place of birth, the volume of personnel information on it would have great potential for embarrassment.

[Jack Hammer]

Dog bites man. When NBC - or anyone else in the MSM - decides to tell the truth about the issue, THEN it’ll be news. Don’t hold your breath.

[markomalley]

I'll ignore your previous reply.

The article you cite quotes the 14th Amendment. That is very pertinent and is central to my argument. Section 5 of that Amendment states, The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Congress did so in 8 USC §1401.

[bethybabes69]

The REAL issue is WHY he's been usurped into power, and by whom, he didn't plan, fund & execute this all by himself, he's a marionette, so who's pulling his strings?

When you connect the dots, and see what's happening now, and is going to happen this Winter, together with the issue of Obama being being controlled by an external force, then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where the USA is heading.

I think the USA, and consequently, the World is in dire peril, people just seem so ignorant to it.

[markomalley]

Are you citing the current law? Wouldn't use the law as written at the time of BHO's birth, not current law?

Good question.

According to the notes attached to the code, the law was enacted in 1952. The specific subparagraph (g) was changed from:

(prior text) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least four of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years

to

(current text) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years

According to the bios of Stanley Ann Dunham, she lived in the CONUS from 1942 to 1960. (17.5 years -- 3.5 years after her 14th birthday). She supposedly graduated from Mercer Island High School in Washington State (a fact that should be verifiable). She moved to Hawaii in 1960 and supposedly attended the University of Hawaii at Mānoa. Again, a fact that should be easily verifiable. If she completed classes for even one semester, then she met the criterion of four years of residency after her 14th birthday.

If, on the other hand, she didn't, then there might be a case to be made.

But that, actually, could be a really good point because there is a potentially exploitable hole.