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President spends an hour recycling old patches of rhetoric
msnbc.msn.com/ ^ | July 23 ,2009 updated 4 minutes ago | Howard Fineman

Posted on 07/23/2009 4:54:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Obama delivers lackluster health care message

President spends an hour recycling old patches of rhetoric

Analysis

By Howard Fineman

msnbc.com contributor

updated 4 minutes ago

Howard Fineman

WASHINGTON - I’ve been covering Barack Obama for a few years, and it’s usually crystal clear what he is up to. Not last night. This is the first time I’ve asked myself: what was THAT all about?

His prime time press conference was worse than a waste of time. He spent an hour (with the aide of a soporific White House press corps) pouring sand (one grain at a time) into the already-slowing gears of the machinery of health-care reform.

He made no real news on health care, but DID make news on race relations with his discussion of the Skip Gates case – thereby obscuring the topic he supposedly wanted to feature.

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1 posted on 07/23/2009 4:54:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
...pouring sand (one grain at a time) into the already-slowing gears of the machinery of health-care reform.

LOL. That really sums it up.

That was followed by "...[he is] clearly in need of a vacation." Huh? Most people think he hasn't lifted a finger for more than a day or two. He seems to be on permanent vacation.

2 posted on 07/23/2009 5:00:38 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I believe the technical term for it is shuck n jive.


3 posted on 07/23/2009 5:01:48 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I suspect Mr. Fineman will be getting a call from the bosses at NBC about his failure to drink the koolaid.


4 posted on 07/23/2009 5:02:25 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

The amazing thing about this story is that it was written by someone at MSLSD. Not sure what to make of that.


5 posted on 07/23/2009 5:02:36 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives; nutmeg; MeekOneGOP

BTTT


6 posted on 07/23/2009 5:04:17 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What I can’t believe is on the MSNBC page it says Fineman will be a guest on the Maddow show to give his analysis.

How will she stand for anything being bad being said about 0bama?

It looks like the MSM is even waking-up and slowly they are taking the crown off of Hitler II-0bama.

Im a little shocked.


7 posted on 07/23/2009 5:04:30 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

I am surprised Fineman went this far in criticizing the Messiah...don’t count on the criticism building...


8 posted on 07/23/2009 5:06:41 AM PDT by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yeah he did liberal sugar-coat it and say 0bama needs a vacation...poor 0bama. This line was the only way I knew I was reading MSNBC. LOL.


9 posted on 07/23/2009 5:07:01 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

You’d think by now that the networks would be getting tired of giving the usurper hours of free air time, while no ones watches, just so he can spin his socialist agenda. I’m sick of it and I never watch his propaganda shows.


10 posted on 07/23/2009 5:09:00 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Ronald Reagan - Morning in America; Hussein 0bama - Mourning for America - FUBO!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
pouring sand (one grain at a time).... 'That really sums it up."

I thought so, too. The whole thing was painfully obtuse.

11 posted on 07/23/2009 5:10:58 AM PDT by tbpiper (How would you define a 'domestic enemy of the constitution'?)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
My Wife incoherently *shoots the bird* every time his image appears on the tube.

*Is he over yet?*

12 posted on 07/23/2009 5:12:42 AM PDT by wolfcreek (KMTEXASA!)
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To: Wpin
The AP are still drunk with 0bama cool-aid this morning
13 posted on 07/23/2009 5:15:51 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: Robert DeLong
"The amazing thing about this story is that it was written by someone at MSLSD. Not sure what to make of that."

How about this?. It is becoming evident even to the drunk on Kool Aid liberal media that the emperor has no clothes. As long as they could manage to convince themselves he could pull off this wholesale taking over of the entire country and all that makes it up, they backed him to the hilt, figuring they would be rewarding in the "new America". But now that the hand writing is on the wall they, like the cowardly opportunists they are, have decided to now switch to the side of public opinion, a public opinion they have failed to sway. This WH Clown will be soon enough gone while they have their careers to worry about. Just watch, in a year or so they will all be saying they knew all along the guy was to inexperienced for the job.

14 posted on 07/23/2009 5:19:53 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Admittedly, I don't surf the DU side of the web much, but I'm hearing a consistent refrain about the speech last night. I didn't watch it, as I was engaged in money making activities. The consensus is incoherent, unfocused, and with several WTF moments, such as the Gates stuff.

With Clinton, the joke was always that if you scratched the surface you found more surface. 0bama has never had anything going for him other than image and relentless boosting regardless of the facts (well, he also had John McCain campaigning for him.) If the veneer of cool breaks down and enough people start examining the idiocy of his policy statements and the narcissism of his speeches we'll see something very unusual. Since what he wants to do is so destructive, that's not bad, but my feeling now is kind of like when Nixon was so badly damaged. I don't know what will happen next, but it's going to be interesting.

15 posted on 07/23/2009 5:21:18 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: 101voodoo
the guy is to inexperienced for the job.

This is the truth and the bottom line.

I have heard (once diehard 0bama lovers that voted for him) say exactly this.

Back to health Care. The thing that frightens me the most (and what many will fall for) is that 0bama citing the insurance companies are big, bad and evil and made 300% profit will allow 0bama to spin a complete government take-over of healthcare. (SEE BANKS,CARS,CAP N TRADE and so on...)

They HAVE THE VOTES. They will ram it in AFTER elections.

16 posted on 07/23/2009 5:27:31 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

No, Fineman, no. You can’t slither away from the responsibilities you had in putting Obama in the White House.

You and your Press cronies should have examined his record, his rhetoric and his background BEFORE the election.

Just because you now see what a disaster he is doesn’t shield you from your past journalistic malpractice.

You should be tarred and feathered for the damage you did to generations of Americans.


17 posted on 07/23/2009 5:27:46 AM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: bigbob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLcilJGPo68

Hey There 0bama(the 0bama Koolaid song).


18 posted on 07/23/2009 5:28:38 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Lady Liberty is Kitty Genovese, right outside our windows.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
LOL thanks for posting.

VIDEO-Obama Kool Aid the Movie Part 1

19 posted on 07/23/2009 5:34:37 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
His prime time press conference was worse than a waste of time. He spent an hour (with the aide of a soporific White House press corps) pouring sand (one grain at a time) into the already-slowing gears of the machinery of health-care reform.

When an Obama kool-aid drinker writes something like this, it can't be good for Obama.

I didn't watch the speech last night (can't stomach this lying marxist, anymore), but this is eye opening.

20 posted on 07/23/2009 5:36:54 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: wolfcreek
My Wife incoherently *shoots the bird* every time his image appears on the tube.

OMG!!! I think we're married to the same woman!!!!

LOL!! Mine does the same thing.

21 posted on 07/23/2009 5:39:16 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

My Prediction:The polls will go down in the next few days but he will still get WHAT HE WANTS and the 0bamaCare bill will be shoved in, AFTER elections with all the votes they need after the bluedogs get re-elected.


22 posted on 07/23/2009 5:40:16 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

MSNBC? Heads will surely roll.


23 posted on 07/23/2009 5:41:36 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: bigbob

I suspect Mr. Fineman will be getting a call from the bosses at NBC about his failure to drink the koolaid.
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Yep. He’ll be sent to ‘re-edumication camp’ like all the good, little dissenters @ NBC.


24 posted on 07/23/2009 5:46:11 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Smoke and mirrors, Obama the carnival operator, taking Americas money for a rigged carny game.

This what happens when a person who has recently risen to power by the use of simple rhetoric of the nature that captures the subliminal aspects of peoples dreams suddenly realizes that the social intellect has shifted phases like people that have heard a Carpenters song a million times, the song sounded so great back THEN but after so long a time hearing it everywhere you get really really tired of it.

Obamas song and dance act is old hat and he does not know how to adapt to realistic events happening RIGHT NOW.

Obama will increasingly publicly whine about everyone hurting him, mark my words.


25 posted on 07/23/2009 5:48:44 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I didn’t watch it live because I can barely stomach looking at the disgusting creature but there was so much said on FR about how strange he looked and acted that I watched part of a rerun later last night and there was definitely something different about him. Oddly, his speech didn’t grate on me as much as it normally does but he looked washed out and lifeless, I didn’t reach any conclusions but I wondered if he was smoking something besides Camels.

I keep searching for a word to describe what he has lost since the last time I watched him and the only thing that comes to mind is “crispness”. He seemed to have gone soggy.


26 posted on 07/23/2009 5:50:45 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
"They HAVE THE VOTES. They will ram it in AFTER elections." And you know this how? The reason Onothing was so desperate to get this done before the break was spare the Dems from the pressure they would have on them from hearing from the people in their Districts when they went home. I think you need to remember the Dems are more interested in keeping THEMSELVES in office then in sacrificing themselves in order to make this president look good. If they had the votes for this the house would have already called for a vote and passed it. Frankly I hope they do call the vote and do pass it on a strictly Party line. It will only add more fuel to the growing fire of outrage that is building against the Left in this Nation.
27 posted on 07/23/2009 5:52:28 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: bgill

Im still shocked at this. Obama owns their propaganda and they fell off the kool-aid wagon.


28 posted on 07/23/2009 5:52:39 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
Howard Fineman? It's official, pigs do fly!

However, Howard will get reprimanded by Chris Matthews. How DARE Howard speak ill of the tingle inducer?

29 posted on 07/23/2009 5:52:52 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“How will she stand for anything being bad being said about 0bama?”
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You are behind the curve. There is video of Maddow expressing her great disappointment with the messiah over “prolonged detention”. You can probably find it on youtube under those two words. She was very critical of him, said he was doing what “even George Bush” didn’t do.


30 posted on 07/23/2009 5:54:59 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"...[he is] clearly in need of a vacation."

He and the wife should take an airplane convoy off to New York or Paris or something. It would do him some good.

Or at least helicopter out for some hamburgers.

31 posted on 07/23/2009 5:58:22 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: wolfcreek

My Wife incoherently *shoots the bird* every time his image appears on the tube.
*Is he over yet?*
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Honor compels me to inform you that I am in love with your wife, sir.


32 posted on 07/23/2009 5:58:37 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: DustyMoment
I caught my five-year-old niece punching away at a cover of a National Review featuring 0.

I asked what she was doing, she just looked at me and said "I hate this guy" and continued punching.

33 posted on 07/23/2009 6:01:04 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: RipSawyer
Found it

She is a freak isn't she? She REALLY wants terrorists to have rights, even more so than 0bama.She should give up her job as she is the minority of this stance-and go work for the ACLU.

Thanks...I did not know she ever criticized 0bama I will not watch her.

34 posted on 07/23/2009 6:01:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: Tribune7

LOL!


35 posted on 07/23/2009 6:01:47 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Considering what he is trying to do it is a damned good thing that he IS inexperienced! Imagine if he had Lyndon Johnson’s ability to twist arms and get something passed.


36 posted on 07/23/2009 6:03:40 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

i watched the first 2 or 3 questions...the man went on and on about aeverything but the answers to the questions...i pray people wake up to this moran soon....its getting really scary out there...


37 posted on 07/23/2009 6:11:48 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: wolfcreek

lol...my 3 yr old sees him on tv and says obama a bad bad man....cracks me up everytime she says it....


38 posted on 07/23/2009 6:13:30 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
WOW! If he's losing MSNBC, he's really in trouble.
39 posted on 07/23/2009 6:15:32 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“Thanks...I did not know she ever criticized 0bama I will not watch her.”
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You’re welcome, I wouldn’t know her name if not for seeing her called “Madcow” on FR, I never would have seen that clip except that someone else posted the link on a FR thread. I have never watched her other than the youtube clip.


40 posted on 07/23/2009 6:18:26 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: RipSawyer

I could not even watch that youtube clip. I saw it enough to see ‘shame on you 0bama.’ The woman is revolting in so many facets I chose not to watch her.


41 posted on 07/23/2009 6:26:44 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: jersey117

Yes. But why do I have a gut feeling he will still take over America?


42 posted on 07/23/2009 6:27:32 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives
The president pretty much just stood there for an hour, filibustering his way through non-answers and recycling old patches of rhetoric.

And how is this different than anything the Kenyan has done throughout his congressional years, the campaign, and presidency? Howard is an idiot.

43 posted on 07/23/2009 6:31:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pubs did try to pass TRUE healthcare reform and 0bama the senator voted NO and or PRESENT.


44 posted on 07/23/2009 6:37:44 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Maybe the Clinton network smells blood and is going for the takedown.


45 posted on 07/23/2009 6:38:40 AM PDT by MrDem (From Morning in America to Mourning in America...)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

“They HAVE THE VOTES. They will ram it in AFTER elections.”

I have said it before and I will say it again:

When this “health care for all” crap passes, right now the legislation states that it will be illegal to sell private policies over the date of passage. It also says that HSA’s will no longer be allowed. That means that my current policy will no longer be allowed and neither I nor my employer will be allowed to privately purchase an alternative.

I will not accept the “public option” that I will be dictated to join. I will not give the government control over my physical body. I will not pay their fines, I will not surrender to the impending warrant for my arrest. When they knock on my door, I will not answer. When they kick it in, I will make the news.

How’s that for unification, libtards? You loons are currently legislating my death. I will chose the terms and I will bring as many of you along as possible!

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“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,..”


46 posted on 07/23/2009 6:41:56 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: MrDem

Why? Hillary can’t even be a good SOS. They FAIL.


47 posted on 07/23/2009 6:42:20 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: CSM

Well said.

I am acting in the same manner when ACORN knocks on my door doing the census.


48 posted on 07/23/2009 6:43:58 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: NoObamaFightForConservatives

Harumph, harumph!


49 posted on 07/23/2009 6:46:26 AM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: Richard Kimball

Interesting that you reference Nixon. I watched Torchwood last night, so I went to watch the video of the speech later on. I only managed 5 minutes, but I kept thinking that he reminded me of Nixon. The same hand gestures, the same looking up from under lowered brows, the same look of exhaustion in the bags and shadows under his eyes that even the makeup couldn’t cover or long shots disguise, the same odd facial expressions that contradicted his words.

Seeing zerO on the defensive and looking worn was heartening, but not enough to make me sit through an entire hour.


50 posted on 07/23/2009 8:17:36 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Are we at high crimes or misdemeanors, yet?)
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