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HR 2749: Food Safety’s Scorched Earth Policy
Farm Wars ^ | 7/22/09

Posted on 07/23/2009 5:11:36 AM PDT by FromLori

HR 2749 is being rushed through Congress, and the house may look to suspend the rules and fast track the bill at Obama’s request. Just what can we expect from this legislation? A lot more of the following:

Dick Peixoto planted hedges of fennel and flowering cilantro around his organic vegetable fields in the Pajaro Valley near Watsonville to harbor beneficial insects, an alternative to pesticides.

He has since ripped out such plants in the name of food safety, because his big customers demand sterile buffers around his crops. No vegetation. No water. No wildlife of any kind.

“I was driving by a field where a squirrel fed off the end of the field, and so 30 feet in we had to destroy the crop,” he said. “On one field where a deer walked through, didn’t eat anything, just walked through and you could see the tracks, we had to take out 30 feet on each side of the tracks and annihilate the crop.”

In the verdant farmland surrounding Monterey Bay, a national marine sanctuary and one of the world’s biological jewels, scorched-earth strategies are being imposed on hundreds of thousands of acres in the quest for an antiseptic field of greens. And the scheme is about to go national. (Lochhead, C. )

The question that must be asked is, do we really want to destroy our local organic farming industry by poisoning ponds, bulldozing crops and killing wildlife all in the name of food safety?

Recently someone asked why I thought that the current food safety legislation would jeopardize organic farming. This is why! People who have no idea what it is to farm, and are in collusion with large corporate food producers, buyers, and sellers, draft legislation that is intolerable to the environment and our health, all in the name of food safety, in order to promote corporate profit.

Recently someone asked why I thought that the current food safety legislation would jeopardize organic farming. This is why! People who have no idea what it is to farm, and are in collusion with large corporate food producers, buyers, and sellers, draft legislation that is intolerable to the environment and our health, all in the name of food safety, in order to promote corporate profit.

Not one instance in “16 years of handling nearly every major food-borne illness outbreak in America, has Seattle trial lawyer Bill Marler had a case where it’s been linked to a farmers’ market” (Marler, B.). Yet, farmer’s markets and local organic food growers who sell at these markets are included in this legislation, and factory farming scorched earth methods are forced on them.

The Scorched Earth Policy

It is impossible to sanitize the earth. When slash and burn methods are used to supposedly control pathogens in our food supply, nature’s natural balance is destroyed, and with it our health. “Sanitizing American agriculture, aside from being impossible, is foolhardy,” said UC Berkeley food guru Michael Pollan. (Lochhead, C.)

Invisible to a public that sees only the headlines of the latest food-safety scare – spinach, peppers and now cookie dough – ponds are being poisoned and bulldozed. Vegetation harboring pollinators and filtering storm runoff is being cleared. Fences and poison baits line wildlife corridors. Birds, frogs, mice and deer – and anything that shelters them – are caught in a raging battle in the Salinas Valley against E. coli O157:H7, a lethal, food-borne bacteria. (Lochhead, C.)

In fact, in the fierce battle to sanitize the earth, one thing has been overlooked:

Some science suggests that removing vegetation near field crops could make food less safe. Vegetation and wetlands are a landscape’s lungs and kidneys, filtering out not just fertilizers, sediments and pesticides, but also pathogens. UC Davis scientists found that vegetation buffers can remove as much as 98 percent of E. coli from surface water. UC Davis advisers warn that some rodents prefer cleared areas. (Lochhead, C.)

Food Safety Fraud Culprits

So who is behind this massive attack on our food supply? You guessed it – giant food retailers, agri-business, and anyone with a bankroll larger than the state of Texas. It seems that paying “more than $100 million in court settlements and verdicts in spinach and lettuce lawsuits” (Lochhead, C.) as well as realizing a loss in sales is galvanizing these corporate giants to lead the charge in instituting a “quasi-governmental program of new protocols for growing greens safely, called the “leafy greens marketing agreement.””

A proposal was submitted last month in Washington to take these rules nationwide.” (Lochhead, C.) And just what is this proposal? HR 2749 Food Safety Enhancement Act.

A food safety bill sponsored by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, passed this month in the House Energy and Commerce Committee. It would give new powers to the Food and Drug Administration to regulate all farms and produce in an attempt to fix the problem. The bill would require consideration of farm diversity and environmental rules, but would leave much to the FDA. (Lochhead, C.)

The requirements of this bill would put small farmers out of business entirely, but this is not the only threat to the little guy.

Large produce buyers have compiled secret “super metrics” that go much further. Farmers must follow them if they expect to sell their crops. These can include vast bare-dirt buffers, elimination of wildlife, and strict rules on water sources. To enforce these rules, retail buyers have sent forth armies of food-safety auditors, many of them trained in indoor processing plants, to inspect fields. (Lochhead, C.)

Most of these inspectors have little to no experience other than inside four walls. Take for example Ken Kimes, who owns New Natives Farms in Santa Cruz County. He was told that “no children younger than five can be allowed on his farm for fear of diapers” (Lochhead, C.)

Reaping the Consequences

It is this type of micro-management that our entire nation can look forward to if HR 2749 passes. These are rules no-one can comply with other than large factory operations. Not only do they conflict with common sense, but with organic and environmental standards as well. They are causing what they propose to eliminate, and that is, a dangerous, contaminated food supply controlled by no one but the biggest corporations. And what can we expect to reap from this harvest? Higher prices due to increased costs to implement the measures and ship the food, nothing but factory-produced food that has travelled for miles to get on the shelf, increased pesticide use, the elimination of organic standards and the family farm, and the rape and desecration of nature itself.

The consequences of California’s draconian measures which are scheduled to go nationwide with the implementation of HR 2749 are already resulting in irreparable harm. …trees have been bulldozed along the riparian corridors of the Salinas Valley, while poison-filled tubes targeting rodents dot lettuce fields. Dying rodents have led to deaths of owls and hawks that naturally control rodents. (Lochhead, C.)

The Fear Factor

Why is the public going along with this? “It’s all based on panic and fear, and the science is not there,” said Dr. Andy Gordus, an environmental scientist with the California Department of Fish and Game. Preliminary results released in April from a two-year study by the state wildlife agency, UC Davis and the U.S. Department of Agriculture found that less than one-half of 1 percent of 866 wild animals tested positive for E. coli O157:H7 in Central California.

Frogs are unrelated to E. coli, but their remains in bags of mechanically harvested greens are unsightly, Gordus said, so “the industry has been using food safety as a premise to eliminate frogs.”

Farmers are told that ponds used to recycle irrigation water are unsafe. So they bulldoze the ponds and pump more groundwater, opening more of the aquifer to saltwater intrusion, said Jill Wilson, an environmental scientist at the Central Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board in San Luis Obispo.

Wilson said demands for 450-foot dirt buffers remove the agency’s chief means of preventing pollution from entering streams and rivers. Jovita Pajarillo, associate director of the water division in the San Francisco office of the Environmental Protection Agency, said removal of vegetative buffers threatens Arroyo Seco, one of the last remaining stretches of habitat for steelhead trout. (Lochhead, C.)

The Real Problem

The problem does not lie squarely in the lap of the farmer, where this legislation places it. It lies in the processing that happens after the produce leaves the farm. This legislation pronounces a death sentence on all small farmers, organic growers, and our nation’s very health as well, yet fails to address the real problem. “Industry rules won’t stop lawsuits or eliminate the risk of processed greens cut in fields, mingled in large baths, put in bags that must be chilled from packing plant to kitchen, and shipped thousands of miles away” (Marler, B).

Mass-production is the culprit, not my neighbor down the road who grows strawberries and sells them at the local farmer’s market. Yet the cause of the problem – mass-produced, industrialized food production methods are supported, while the innocent victims – family farmers, organic producers, and neighbors selling fruit at the local farmer’s market – are punished and quite literally put out of business.


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1 posted on 07/23/2009 5:11:36 AM PDT by FromLori
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To: FromLori; bamahead; nutmeg; MeekOneGOP

BTTT


2 posted on 07/23/2009 5:17:02 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: FromLori

Isnt this the “Monsanto” bill? This is the bill brought about by Monsanto to protect their GM==Genetically Modified==grains isnt it? If this is allowed to pass, it will give Monsanto almost total control over all crop seed, and possibly even prevent you from having a home garden unless you use Monsanto seed. This is a dangerous bill and must be stopped.


3 posted on 07/23/2009 5:17:45 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: FromLori; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; ..
Ping to the Weekly Gardening list.

Thought this would be of interest.

4 posted on 07/23/2009 5:19:53 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; nw_arizona_granny

BTTT


5 posted on 07/23/2009 5:21:18 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: hiredhand

Ping.


6 posted on 07/23/2009 5:21:46 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Concho

Yes it is and it should be stopped!

Consider also...

http://www.naisstinks.com/index.php?con=NAIS_Control_Rural_Population

http://farmwars.info/?p=1263


7 posted on 07/23/2009 5:22:26 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

Who gives a damn? Vegetables are what Food eats.


8 posted on 07/23/2009 5:25:20 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (This is the worst economic crisis since Brittney Spears shaved both ends!)
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To: FromLori

Anything from Waxman has got to be bad. He’s an enemy of all that is good in America.


9 posted on 07/23/2009 5:26:19 AM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: FromLori

Now mind you, I’m no fan of Monsanto.

But don’t we all buy fresh seed every year? I always have.

I’m not trying to start a fight here.

I am going to bed because I have a raging sinus headache. But PLEASE straighten me out, especially if I have it all wrong.


10 posted on 07/23/2009 5:26:35 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: FromLori

About a year ago, I talked to a young man on a flight who was just returning from an agriculture conference and shared some of the details of new regulations affecting the way that farmers small and large will have to conduct business. In many cases, the new regulations are so draconian, most small farms will have to close because the added expense CANNOT be recouped through higher market prices.

The new agriculture regulations in this bill should help make America into a Robert Mugabe-style agricultural paradise (/sarc). The big problem will be, though, when WE can’t produce enough food to feed ourselves, how will ANYONE be able to stop the looming world famine!!

This is madness!!


11 posted on 07/23/2009 5:29:30 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Concho

This HR2749 is the substitute bill for HR875. It was recrafted to attempt to disguise Monsanto. As I understand this, the real purpose is to create a legal buffer zone around Monsantos GM corn crops so that neighbors cant plant within a defined space so that their patented corn seed doesnt get contaminated or cross pollinated.

This is a very dangerous bill that will result in the government being able to seize private property in the name of creating food.


12 posted on 07/23/2009 5:31:26 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: Daisyjane69

A lot of us prefer heirloom seeds. I’m fortunate to live near a veggie farm that grows from a lot of heirloom seed and can buy seed from them if I wish.

A few years back I asked a friend if I could trade some morning glory seeds for a color she had growing. She told me that hers don’t produce seeds and sure enough there was no evidence of seedpods on her plants that fall.


13 posted on 07/23/2009 5:31:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Daisyjane69

It has always been common practice for a lot of farmers to save a certain amount of the crop back to plant as the next years seed. This law will prevent that and will legally require that farmers have to purchase new seed, from Monsanto of course. It is aimed at eliminating competition and placing Monsanto in control of the seed industry. I assure you that when I go to plant garden, I am not about going to be forced to plant Monsanto seed.

There are 56 pounds in a bushel of corn. Corn is now planted by computer controlled planters that spaces the corn seeds in the row such that the end result is something like 32,000 plants per acre. The companies began bagging corn seed in bushel bags, then 50# bags, and now 40 pound bags. They have the price at about $110 per bag of seed now. Corn at the local grain elevator is something like $3.50. If this bill is allowed to pass, farmers will be working for Monsanto. It is all part of the socialist plan. You know, Monsanto is not American owned any more?????


14 posted on 07/23/2009 5:39:50 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: FromLori

This must be Obamas grand secretive plan on controlling Americans.

Control the food supply.

Its not Obamacare, brownshirts or Acorn we should fear.

Its Obamas grand plan to control Americas farmers, dairy and poultry providers.

People cannot live without food. The depths of hatred towards white America must be so severe with Obama I have no doubts he will next target the farmers of America.


15 posted on 07/23/2009 5:40:04 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Daisyjane69

Hybrids are nice, are disease resistant, give good yields, etc...., but keep you on the dole for new seeds every year. For the last 5 yrs I have been growing heirlooms and a few exotics, and always harvest the seeds for the following year. I grow some hybrids too, but not many. Heirlooms take extra work, but once you get the soil prepped well, and tend to their basic needs (water, pest control, feeding, weeding) they really pay off.


16 posted on 07/23/2009 5:41:54 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Eye of Unk

I think it is at least part of the plan control the food control the people, control the weapons control the people


17 posted on 07/23/2009 5:42:16 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori
From “micro-management” to “microbe-management”

I have an idea - enforce the borders and don't employ illegal aliens who poop in the fields where they work. This is an easy fix that helps our economy, school system, health care, and security without damaging the environment. It's just a thought...

18 posted on 07/23/2009 5:42:40 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: Eye of Unk

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/053894-2009-07-22-one-world-government.htm


19 posted on 07/23/2009 5:43:17 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks for the ping. My garden had a little disater last weekend. A VERY large tree, a 300+ year old red oak fell across it, completely wiping out all my zucchini, summer squash, cukes and 1 row of tomatoes. Wahhhh.

Thankfully, i still have 5 rows of tomaotes and the peppers are good, and no signs of the blight going around yet.


20 posted on 07/23/2009 5:43:43 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: uncommonsense

I sure agree about the illegal aliens sickening.


21 posted on 07/23/2009 5:43:55 AM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Concho

Call and write our congressmen and say no to HR 2749! I did! It is draconian.


22 posted on 07/23/2009 5:47:37 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Jim Thompson for POTUS)
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To: P8riot

We are not talking about hybrids here. Hybrids are when you take two varieties and allow them to cross pollinate naturally getting a hybrid. It is like taking a Herford cow and breeding her to an Angus bull to get a black-whiteface calf.

What we are dealing with here is that Monsanto has gone into the DNA of these seeds and spliced in genes from other plants, animals, bacteria and who knows what to create genetic mutations. These new genetic mutations may carry special proteins that kill corn insects so that they dont need to spray, but they also kill honeybees that gather pollen. We are talking about some serious stuff here that if allowed to get into Monsantos control will violate all the anti trust laws and monopoly laws on the books. Waxman doesnt care about that, it is all about control.


23 posted on 07/23/2009 6:02:57 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; nw_arizona_granny; DelaWhere; TenthAmendmentChampion; JDoutrider

>>> Ping to the Weekly Gardening list.

Thought this would be of interest. <<

They never give up in the never ending power grab.. Thank you for the heads up on this little piece of HE**.

here is the open congress link :

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h2749/show

# Rep. John Dingell [D, MI-15]
# and 5 Co-Sponsors

* Rep. Diana DeGette [D, CO-1]
* Rep. Frank Pallone [D, NJ-6]
* Rep. Bart Stupak [D, MI-1]
* Rep. Betty Sutton [D, OH-13]
* Rep. Henry Waxman [D, CA-30]

Monsanto...

Monsanto’s Agent Orange:
The Persistent Ghost from the Vietnam War

http://www.organicconsumers.org/monsanto/agentorange032102.cfm


24 posted on 07/23/2009 6:03:11 AM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; FromLori

Well, for STARTERS...I’d move the ‘Ef’ out of California, LOL!

Thre’s going to be such a DELICIOUS Economic Underground created here. I can’t WAIT to be a part of it. :)

“Anyone need eggs or zucchini? I’ve got plenty these days. What ya got to trade me?”

See how easy it’s going to be when we cut Government OUT of the picture? ;)


25 posted on 07/23/2009 6:03:15 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: FromLori

No question, there are many onerous aspects of the proposed NAIS plan that should have never seen the light of day.

There is a real concern for readiness by our state’s animal health officials and APHIS for a bioterroristic attack of something like Hoof and Mouth Disease which would devastate animal agriculture should it ever rear its ugly head on US soil.

For example, the impact and cost of Newcastle Disease upon poultry producers a few years ago was borne by a backyard fighting chicken CA operation. This disease spread cost untold millions of dollars to the industry and the federal govt to check its advance.

Many producers argue that NAIS is 1) Too costly, 2) Impacts confidentiality and 3) heightens fear of liability. Having said that, I would agree that they are within their rights to express their concerns. However, there is an incredible amount of misinformation that is being churned out by many of the websites like the one you referenced.

It would be foolhardy and shortsighted for anyone to assume that that the risk of an foreign animal disease is zero or that the present methods of resolving a trace back or forward in a timely manner are adequate. If a significant disease situation were to arise where time is precious, would our respective state animal health and APHIS officials have adequate information and the tools to contain it in a timely fashion with a minimal impact on our nation’s food supply, trade restrictions, etc?

In general, our society is being further removed from the realities of present day food production. Long term, I am fearful of the impact of increasing regulation on the ability of many of our nation’s food producers to stay in business. Personally, I am concerned what could happen if there is a short term shortage of food because of a variety of plausible scenarios that might unfold?

I apologize for my long post. I deal with this issue first hand on a daily basis.

My two cents.

MFO


26 posted on 07/23/2009 6:06:37 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: FromLori

These are the same idiots that restrict the growth of real sugar - sugar cane but yet, corn syrup permeates almost all of our foods, therefore, why do we have a lot of obesity, diabetes. Along with it, a coming disorder - fatty liver. It is because of the big money from the big corporate farms. Just like the war on trans fats, we need to have war on corn syrup. Not too many people know but corn syrup is hard on the liver !Fatty liver use to just come from excessive drinking but it is coming from poor diet as well - a lot of food with corn syrup.


27 posted on 07/23/2009 6:10:29 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: DustyMoment

The new agriculture regulations in this bill should help make America into a Robert Mugabe-style agricultural paradise (/sarc).

Perhaps.

I see more of a 1920’s Ukraine type famine in the near future.


28 posted on 07/23/2009 6:13:37 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: FromLori

Bookmark


29 posted on 07/23/2009 6:20:34 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: uncommonsense
I have an idea - enforce the borders and don't employ illegal aliens who poop in the fields where they work

And stop importing food from China, a country that doesn't even care if it poisons its own.
30 posted on 07/23/2009 6:24:22 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: FromLori
Excerpt:

The Real Problem

The problem does not lie squarely in the lap of the farmer, where this legislation places it. It lies in the processing that happens after the produce leaves the farm.

This legislation pronounces a death sentence on all small farmers, organic growers, and our nation’s very health as well, yet fails to address the real problem. “Industry rules won’t stop lawsuits or eliminate the risk of processed greens cut in fields, mingled in large baths, put in bags that must be chilled from packing plant to kitchen, and shipped thousands of miles away” (Marler, B).

31 posted on 07/23/2009 6:26:44 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: Man from Oz

Good points, but taxing the producers out of existence with these regulations isnt going to increase anyones revenue either.


32 posted on 07/23/2009 6:28:21 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: Concho

Farmers haven’t ‘saved’ seed from previous crops for decades now. Seed is specially grown, with stains being cross pollinated for very precise seed quality crops.

That’s why yields have more than doubled in the past 50 years.

My tagline isn’t just an idle boast of the American Famer, it’s been true for more than 50 years.


33 posted on 07/23/2009 6:42:41 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: DustyMoment

Perhaps by farming half the land that big operators/investors/non farmer groups that have purchased land and put into CRP or formerly soil bank under the guise of wetlands. Amazing how nice it is to get a check from Uncle Same for each acre that is pulled out of activity. Funny thing, drie through Iowas and look at CRP ground that is not utilized but nowhere near water or even close to a flood plain.

Production? 1970’s a 100 bushel acre corn crop was exceptional. Today, farmers worry if they don’t hit the 200 bushel/acre rate, and competitors have already crossed the 300 bushel mark. Amazing ... the food shortage, food quality, deficiency of mineral is of the sam ilk as global warming.

“The sky is falling and we must tell the king.” Waikey up ameeerika .... you are now a country of chicken littles. ( Icall them “chicken*****” ...well you get the idea)


34 posted on 07/23/2009 6:55:41 AM PDT by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: Balding_Eagle

You farm a lot?

We still save seed for replanting. It is the Monsantos of the industry that has driven the prices of seed up to where 100 bu yields wont pay the costs for raising the crop, and 200 will barely. Dont harp about the farmers, look at Monsanto and Pioneer and those people who drive the price of $3 worth of seed to over $100.

That specially grown seed is the genetic mutations that Monsanto is working so hard to protect. If they get this through, then Monsanto will tell you what you can eat.


35 posted on 07/23/2009 7:23:10 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: HiramQuick

We’re not talking about large corporate enterprises, here, we’re talking about small farmers and, in this particular case, the guy I was talking to was from a small farm of around 200 acres in S. Texas.

We aren’t talking about crop YIELDS, we’re talking about expensive requirements the federal government is placing on these farmers that have to do with adding costs to the farmer that they can’t get back at market because the market won’t bear the prices.


36 posted on 07/23/2009 7:25:05 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Concho

I farmed in MN until 1986 when I sold to my share to my brothers.

The only seed we ever saved and planted were soybeans and small grains, and after better soybean seed came out we bought.

We never planted saved corn seed, as the difference was so great. Maybe 30 or 40 bushels for saved seed, 90 to 140 bushels per acre with commercially produced corn seed. I can’t recall anyone ever planting their own corn seed since I can remember back to the 50’s.


37 posted on 07/23/2009 7:55:56 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: Eagle50AE

Any idea how this could impact home vegetable gardens? I forsee when there are food shortages and home gardeners will be labeled “selfish”.


38 posted on 07/23/2009 7:59:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: CholeraJoe
Vegetables are what Food eats.

If they pass this, they'll do the same thing to "Food".

Urbanites don't comprehend that food of all kinds (Food, or Food's food) comes from a dirty, bloody, infested world - and to sterilize/sanitize/purify all of it is to eliminate it, and us.

Every kid needs to farm & hunt at some point to understand this fact.

39 posted on 07/23/2009 8:13:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: FromLori

It won’t be any big deal, we already use food as fuel in our vehicles. The country will bend over backwards to carry out the federal government’s bidding.

I’m thinking it’s already too late.


40 posted on 07/23/2009 8:47:20 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; appleseed; bamahead; Eric Blair 2084

Nanny and socialism ping

This is ridiculous.

Did they ever stop to think about all the critters that live underground?

The nocturnal ones that nobody sees because they come out at night?

The birds that fly over everything and poop everywhere?

What’s wrong with our politicians? Is being certifiable now a requirement for holding political office?


41 posted on 07/23/2009 8:52:25 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Eagle50AE

No surprise that they’re all Communists.


42 posted on 07/23/2009 8:56:50 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: Eagle50AE; All
More on HR 2749

 Food bill would hurt small farmers
Kansas City Star - MO,USA
If your friends farm, or if you were to take up farming for more than your family, you could be under a kind of FDA martial law with the passing of HR 2749, ...
'Food' discussion highlights local farming
Bangor Daily News - Bangor,ME,USA
Panelists and some in the audience urged people to pay attention to HR 2749, a federal food security bill that they said could make doing business a lot ...
 Farm Groups Say Food Safety Bill Would Make it Tougher for Farmers ...
CNSNews.com - Alexandria,VA,USA
“In recent weeks some concerns have been raised about HR 2749, many on the Internet, suggesting almost apocalyptic outcomes for farmers if the bill becomes ...
CONFER: The federal assaults on farms
Tonawanda News - North Tonawanda,NY,USA
HR 2749 would give the FDA almost unlimited power that would touch on every facet of ... HR 2749 is just another in a long line of attacks on capitalism and ...
Food Safety Bill Triggers Fight
Farm Futures - Carol Stream,IL,USA
Although there was much bipartisan support of HR 2749, a food safety bill, earlier this year, after several farm and livestock organizations testified ...
 New food safety bill needs to be stopped
The Newark Advocate - Newark,OH,USA
A new food safety bill is on the fast track in Congress -- HR 2749, ... HR 2749 gives FDA tremendous power while significantly diminishing existing judicial ...
 The high cost of cheap food
Denver Post - Denver,CO,USA
What the passing of HR 875 and 2749 could mean is a loss of organic, small-farm options and a reduction of both the shopper's autonomy and the good things ...
 Muzzle FDA
Northwest Herald - Crystal Lake,IL,USA
Large corporate farming? A new law no doubt. Only genetically modified food can claim any health benefits. I'm opposed to this bill (HR 2749).
 
Letter: HR 2749 rejects 'choice' of foods
St. Augustine Record - St. Augustine,FL,USA
Editor: I urge Congress not to pass HR 2749, Food Safety Enhancement Act. I highly object to the take over of our food supply by corporations such as ...
NPPC: Resolve Issues Before Passing Food-Safety Bill
CattleNetwork.com - Overland Park,KS,USA
As written, the bill would change the standard to allow on-farm inspections if food is “thought to be adulterated, misbranded or in violation of HR 2749. ...

43 posted on 07/23/2009 9:11:29 AM PDT by DelaWhere (Support Cap 'n Trade - CAP TAXES & SPENDING. TRADE CONGRESS FOR REAL PUBLIC SERVANTS.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

This should definitely be of interest to your weekly gardening list, and anybody who eats!

Having followed these types of issues for years, I can explain what is happening.

The processors and distributors (often transnational corporations) want to put the onus for food safety on the farmer so they can cut corners and save costs on food safety and sanitation in their own plants.

In their warped world view, if the fields are made completely sterile of everything except the crop, then they don’t have to have a lab, a technician to check the facility and product for contamination, nor expensive pesky food safety procedures and equipment.

Before Bill Clinton signed an executive order for harmonizing our food safety laws with the WTO and UN sponsored rules and Codex Alimentarius group, companies had food safety engineers or technicians, which regularly tested the products. The county state and federal governments all had agencies and inspectors and working together with the Ag university extension offices, America developed the safest food supply in the world.

Under harmonization with international ‘rules’, the transnational corporations and in country producers became their own inspectors. Our government’s cut the FDA and Food and Ag inspectors keeping in line with the internationalist’s mantra that any prohibitions on the transnational corporations by the government was a ‘barrier’ to free trade.

So now we have a system, for example, where the company that produced the e coli tainted lettuce wasn’t properly maintaining the cleanliness of their system ostensibly for cutting costs. Because they are the only ones responsible for maintaining their sanitation at their site , no inspectors checked their site or process. THEY washed the spinach in e coli contaminated wash water but blamed a farmer and some wild hogs which have been living next to Salinas valley farms ever since farms were started there. However, the ‘crisis’ they created resulted in all row crop farmers having to sterilize their fields of all animal life. What do you think the effect on the environment is when you have poison bait traps every 50 feet around your fields to poison rodents which may enter the field? How do you think it affects the raptors and other animals that prey on the rodents? How do you think their water rules affect the crop and the land? Especially since they don’t want water to run off a farm, as it would do in a natural watershed? How do you think that it would affect the natural environment off the farm?

The ideas expressed here are purely communist, in that, these food dictators believe in the communist notion that every thing is a system that human beings with ‘perfect knowledge’, that is trained communists, can control to be the perfect producing machines to meet the ‘needs’ of society. Well their machine kills people and destroys the environment, and isn’t that what we have always seen is the result of communistic control?


44 posted on 07/23/2009 9:16:05 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: DelaWhere

bookmarking


45 posted on 07/23/2009 9:16:53 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Eagle50AE; All
More on HR 2749

 Food bill would hurt small farmers
Kansas City Star - MO,USA
If your friends farm, or if you were to take up farming for more than your family, you could be under a kind of FDA martial law with the passing of HR 2749, ...
'Food' discussion highlights local farming
Bangor Daily News - Bangor,ME,USA
Panelists and some in the audience urged people to pay attention to HR 2749, a federal food security bill that they said could make doing business a lot ...
 Farm Groups Say Food Safety Bill Would Make it Tougher for Farmers ...
CNSNews.com - Alexandria,VA,USA
“In recent weeks some concerns have been raised about HR 2749, many on the Internet, suggesting almost apocalyptic outcomes for farmers if the bill becomes ...
CONFER: The federal assaults on farms
Tonawanda News - North Tonawanda,NY,USA
HR 2749 would give the FDA almost unlimited power that would touch on every facet of ... HR 2749 is just another in a long line of attacks on capitalism and ...
Food Safety Bill Triggers Fight
Farm Futures - Carol Stream,IL,USA
Although there was much bipartisan support of HR 2749, a food safety bill, earlier this year, after several farm and livestock organizations testified ...
 New food safety bill needs to be stopped
The Newark Advocate - Newark,OH,USA
A new food safety bill is on the fast track in Congress -- HR 2749, ... HR 2749 gives FDA tremendous power while significantly diminishing existing judicial ...
 The high cost of cheap food
Denver Post - Denver,CO,USA
What the passing of HR 875 and 2749 could mean is a loss of organic, small-farm options and a reduction of both the shopper's autonomy and the good things ...
 Muzzle FDA
Northwest Herald - Crystal Lake,IL,USA
Large corporate farming? A new law no doubt. Only genetically modified food can claim any health benefits. I'm opposed to this bill (HR 2749).
 
Letter: HR 2749 rejects 'choice' of foods
St. Augustine Record - St. Augustine,FL,USA
Editor: I urge Congress not to pass HR 2749, Food Safety Enhancement Act. I highly object to the take over of our food supply by corporations such as ...
NPPC: Resolve Issues Before Passing Food-Safety Bill
CattleNetwork.com - Overland Park,KS,USA
As written, the bill would change the standard to allow on-farm inspections if food is “thought to be adulterated, misbranded or in violation of HR 2749. ...

46 posted on 07/23/2009 9:17:52 AM PDT by DelaWhere (Support Cap 'n Trade - CAP TAXES & SPENDING. TRADE CONGRESS FOR REAL PUBLIC SERVANTS.)
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To: Daisyjane69
But don’t we all buy fresh seed every year?

No.

Some of us recognize that our plants actually produce seeds, save them, and use them the next year.

There's a difference between buying fresh seeds annually because it's convenient vs. because government has prohibited not doing so.

47 posted on 07/23/2009 9:23:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: CORedneck

Is “fatty liver” easily diagnosed? Just wondering. I imagine some of my relatives who are FATTIES have fatty livers....but, I’m wondering if less fat people have fatty livers too?


48 posted on 07/23/2009 9:47:12 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Abort the Obama Presidency, now!!!)
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To: FromLori
First they came after the small farmers, but I wasn't a small farmer, so I did nothing. Then they came after anyone who grew gardens because it was for human consumption and violated the new food laws and gardeners were hoarding and selfish. But I lived in the city, and didn't have a garden, so I said nothing. Then when the Monsanto frankenfoods started making us all sick, it was too late, because there was nothing else to eat. Millions died and we asked why is this happening to us? We want our country back, but it was too late. The giant corporations owned us too.

Think this is too far fetched? Think again!

49 posted on 07/23/2009 10:21:11 AM PDT by 1ofmanyfree ((No jobs, licenses,mortgages,bank accounts or amnesty for any illegal alien criminals ! ))
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To: EdReform; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...



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50 posted on 07/23/2009 12:27:03 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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