Posted on 07/23/2009 1:48:25 PM PDT by seanmerc
WASHINGTON -- Secrecy is endemic in all governments. It goes with the turf, especially if their leaders hope to hide illegal or immoral behavior, such as torture of foreign prisoners.
Many Americans heaved a sigh of relief last January when President Barack Obama banned the torture of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Image-wise, it made the administration look more humane than the Bush-Cheney team. But that is not the whole story.
Obama left unaddressed the possibility of torture in secret foreign prisons under our control as in Abu Ghraib in Iraq or Bagram in Afghanistan, not to mention the "black sites" sponsored by our foreign clients in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Thailand and other countries.
"The United States will not torture," Obama said in his directive. But he has been silent on the question of whether the U.S. would help others do the torturing.
Members of Congress knew a lot about U.S. torture practices. But Republicans loyal to Bush and Democrats, too, played along and kept silent at the horror of it all.
During the Martin Luther King March on Washington in the 1960’s, a rabbi who had been in a German concentration camp said: "The greatest sin of all in the Nazi era was silence."
Why did no bells ring for the U.S. lawmakers -- particularly those privy to the brutality -- when briefed on the abusive treatment of the captives.
Did they owe more allegiance to the CIA rather than the honor of our country?
There are hair-raising reports of methods that Americans -- including private contractors -- have used to coerce information from our prisoners.
They include slamming a prisoner against a wall; denying him sleep and food; waterboarding him under so-called enhanced interrogation; and keeping him in a crate filled with insects.
I remember when President Ronald Reagan, marveling at the courage of American soldiers, used to say: "Where do we get such men?" And I have to ask: "Where did we get such people who would inflict so much pain and ruthlessness on others?"
William Rivers Pitt, a best-selling author who wrote "The Greatest Sedition is Silence," recently raised the emotional question of whether U.S. adoption of torture has debased the international standards for treatment of prisoners and that our enemies may now feel that they can torture Americans.
Pitt specifically expressed concern about Army Pvt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was captured by the Taliban in Afghanistan last month. American military leaders had warned Bush over and over that U.S. torture of prisoners could boomerang against our troops. But he would not listen.
Obama has blocked publication of pictures of the harsh treatment of prisoners from our two ongoing wars -- in Iraq and Afghanistan -- but the word still gets around.
So this is what death is like...
Yoo-hoo, Helen Thomas ping list members! FReepmail me if you'd like to be added.
How can anyone say we are losing the high moral ground when everyone else is standing on moral quicksand?
Wrong stone tablet or wrong meds? BTW, I can understand why she doesn’t want to talk about Obamacare. She will never be eligible unless that euthanasia component passes...
That’s cruel! When you said graphic images, I thought it was just going to be torture victims.
“Yoo-hoo, Helen Thomas ping list members! FReepmail me if you’d like to be added.”
It never occured to me that we might have masochists at FR. I’m awake now.
Waterboard me! ...Pull Out My Fingernails! ...Anything!
Just Don't Make Look at Helen Any Longer!
This from the woman whose image is ocular torture?
I want to unsee that that pleaz!
Gunner
But Helen supports the torture and murdershalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
of 5000 innocent babies each day.The majority of whom are black babies.
I don’t care about moral high grounds when it comes to my survival. One of this old moonbat’s cousins from the Middle East attacks me I’m all in favor of some serious torture.
ya! ya!
Must’ve missed her plea for leneancy for the troops captured by Al Qaida.
Must’ve missed her plea for leneancy for the kidnapped civilian contractors.
Must’ve missed.
Oh wait, she’s a proterrorist witch.
Bless you Son.....
E.J.
“Damn your eyes!” ... “Too late!”
So Obama BANNED torture? Torture has never been legal.
Hellen reminds me of so many of my liberal friends... they are still ranting about Bush and Cheney. They use their Facebook accounts to continue to post rants about them. I’m embarrassed for them.
They should be happy as larks right now with Obyssmal in the White House. But they’re not. Just move on, MoveOn.
I’m afraid poor Sarah Palin evokes the same unbalanced response.
Argh, you just messed up my ping page, again!
And about those beheadings? Those dragging our Rangers through the streets of Somalia?
The murder and beheading of Daniel Pearl.
The lobbing of bombs and rockets into innocent people in Israel?
Poor Helen. Born demented, will die demented.
Always happy to help! I think of it as a public service. :-)
BTW - Would you please STOP torturing us with her pic.
Okay Helen. You have forced me to endure another image and reply.
Where is the “Moral high ground” in letting TERRORISTS plan and execute ATTACKS ON AMERICANS AND AMERICAN if there was a way to stop it? Are you going to spew “moral high ground” to the victim’s families?
Can we get the name of that goddess?
(This time we don't mean you, Hell-in.)
“It never occured to me that we might have masochists at FR.”
ROFL
See, that is exactly what we “masochists” live for!
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