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Agents seize $1.2 billion worth of pot in Calif.
AP on SFGate.com ^ | 7/23/09 | Garance Burke - ap

Posted on 07/23/2009 5:43:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Fresno, Calif. (AP) --

Federal and state agents have arrested 83 people for growing more than $1.2 billion worth of marijuana in an ongoing crackdown on illegal pot gardens in California's Sierra Nevada range.

Local officials said several Mexican marijuana-growing cartels helped set up the grow sites scattered throughout rocky mountainsides of eastern Fresno County, and warned more arrests were likely as the sweep continues.

More than 318,000 marijuana plants were destroyed in the operation, which also netted nearly $41,000 in cash, 25 weapons and two vehicles, Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims said Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; US: California
KEYWORDS: agents; aliens; buildthefence; california; environment; habitatdestruction; immigration; marijuana; mexico; narcoterror; pot; seize; wod
82 of the 83 arrested are Mexicans, some have been arrested before in previous years in other areas of the state for the same type of offenses.

Just growing the pot Americans refuse to grow, I reckun.

1 posted on 07/23/2009 5:43:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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That’s a lot of lost tax revenue.


2 posted on 07/23/2009 5:44:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

ROFLMAO!


3 posted on 07/23/2009 5:46:09 PM PDT by doc1019 (YO! You are also half white … recognize it, deal with it.)
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To: doc1019

So thats where I left my stash...


4 posted on 07/23/2009 5:50:58 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: doc1019

There’s green in them thar hills!


5 posted on 07/23/2009 5:53:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: NormsRevenge

While -7bama murders the auto industry, banking industry, insurance industry, energy sector, and now trying to have his way with the health care sector, here is one area which should be taken down. Perhaps evidence of trying to destroy everything, and not pick-n-choosing...


6 posted on 07/23/2009 5:54:01 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Ditto my last post. Thanks I needed this. ;-)


7 posted on 07/23/2009 5:55:06 PM PDT by doc1019 (YO! You are also half white … recognize it, deal with it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Marijuana .. lettuce... both are green, both come out of the dirt... it’s all so confusing.

At least we now know where all of the lettuce pickers go to wait for new job openings.


8 posted on 07/23/2009 5:55:28 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Waste of police resources.


9 posted on 07/23/2009 5:56:32 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: NormsRevenge

1.2 Billion dollars worth of pot...

I wonder how many lost jobs this translates into?


10 posted on 07/23/2009 5:57:45 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm heartened by these arrests. Our western wilderness (particularly in the Sierras and certain coast ranges) are being overrun by these gangsters. It's becoming very dangerous to set foot in many of our wild places because of their remote pot farms and their paranoia in protecting them.

They're human vermin, and they need to be removed and eradicated.

11 posted on 07/23/2009 6:01:43 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: NormsRevenge
More than 318,000 marijuana plants were destroyed in the operation, which also netted nearly $41,000 in cash, 25 weapons and two vehicles, Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims said Thursday.

Is California going to confiscate the plants to sell and help pay off it's debt?

12 posted on 07/23/2009 6:02:12 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NormsRevenge; gubamyster; SwinneySwitch; Pelham; Czar; Travis McGee; Tennessee Nana; brushcop; ...

Another big one in the news today.

These are Mexican drug cartels/Ms-13, they are armed and dangerous and absolutely destroying public lands.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul2209-marijuana_grow.67b95315.html
Idaho News
A large outdoor marijuana grow operation was eradicated Monday on federal land in Baker County, Oregon. Police say two people were arrested at the site and approximately 3,500 marijuana plants were located.

The grow operation is similar to others found over the past several years in eastern Oregon, and was located in rugged terrain in the Snake River area. This is the second large grow operation found in Baker County this year.

The grow yielded marijuana plants 4 to 6 feet in height. Detectives estimate that if the plants were left undetected and allowed to grow to full maturity they would have yielded about two pounds per plant. Estimated value of the marijuana would be $2,000 to $3,500 per pound.

The two men taken into custody were identified as Jose Piedad Gamino-Villa, 28, and Humberto Gamino-Villa, 32, both from Mexico. They were booked in the Baker County Jail for unlawful possession, delivery and manufacturing of marijuana.

Also:http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/marijuana_farm_in_baker_county.html
(with photos of the perps)

[snip]”We believe these were both planted by members of Mexican drug cartels,’’ Duby said. “They find good sources of water and set up drip irrigation systems.”

Duby said the plants were scattered over remote, rugged terrain on about three to five acres of land on terraced hillsides. Typically, law enforcement officials spot the grow operations from the air.

The men arrested were identified as 28-year-old Jose Piedad Gamino Villa, and Humbert Gamino Villa, 32, both from Mexico. They were booked into the Baker County Jail for possession, delivery and manufacturing marijuana.

For photos of these grows in No. California, look here:
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Invasion+lou+dobbs


13 posted on 07/23/2009 6:02:35 PM PDT by AuntB (Tired of Left/right coast globalist party power brokers? How 'bout THE HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY??)
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To: NormsRevenge
Agents seize $1.2 billion worth of pot in Calif.

Dammm, that bites dude.

14 posted on 07/23/2009 6:04:48 PM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash ?)
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To: Flycatcher

See post 13.

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=Invasion+lou+dobbs


15 posted on 07/23/2009 6:06:28 PM PDT by AuntB (Tired of Left/right coast globalist party power brokers? How 'bout THE HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY??)
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To: mysterio
Waste of police resources.

In this case, I disagree. Anything that kicks the Mexican drug cartels in the groin and makes it harder for them to do business in the US is a good thing. However, what many people are too short-sighted or brainwashed to realize is that if we legalized marijuana in CA, the cartels immediately lose millions per year in revenue since anybody could grow a couple of plants in their backyard or closet if they wanted it. The criminalization of a particular plant is what makes this market so lucrative for the cartels.
16 posted on 07/23/2009 6:07:34 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: NormsRevenge

The state then sold the pot for 2 billion, and Arnold paid off some of the state’s huge debt.


17 posted on 07/23/2009 6:10:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: AuntB

BILLION ????????????????????????


18 posted on 07/23/2009 6:10:49 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: NormsRevenge
"You can imagine looking from a helicopter down onto a forest, there are a lot of different shades of green. It took some specially trained personnel to spot where the marijuana was growing," Mims said. "We found it planted on hillsides and gullies, and some of the plants had grown to be eight feet tall."

They don't have specially trained personnel to spot pot. That's passe.

They have light spectrometers...pot has a UNIQUE spectrum of reflected light, just as all plants do. They simply overfly a grid and wait for the alrm, mark the GPS and send in the agents.

Personally, I don't get the war on pot. It's SILLY to think LEO and government can make a impact. It's available to anyone who wants to smoke it.

One has to ask, why put people in jail for it?

19 posted on 07/23/2009 6:12:24 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: AuntB
In other words, it wasn't actually $1.2 billion worth of pot, it was 300,000 plants that might grow to that much someday. And the chief wanted a bigger headline.
20 posted on 07/23/2009 6:12:59 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Flycatcher
"I'm heartened by these arrests. Our western wilderness (particularly in the Sierras and certain coast ranges) are being overrun by these gangsters. It's becoming very dangerous to set foot in many of our wild places because of their remote pot farms and their paranoia in protecting them. They're human vermin, and they need to be removed and eradicated. "

That's as good a reason as any to legalize it.

21 posted on 07/23/2009 6:13:47 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: AuntB
Wow. Thanks for the update. My new line of work takes to extremely remote places in the West, and I just hate what these foreign gangsters are attempting to do to our wilderness areas.

In fact, for the next six weeks, I'll be at a wilderness area conducting surveys in southcentral Oregon. Such beautiful country, and it makes my blood boil to hear about these criminal takeovers. I'll have to report back to you when I return.

Thanks, AuntB!

22 posted on 07/23/2009 6:15:36 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: NormsRevenge
82 of the 83 arrested are Mexicans, some have been arrested before in previous years in other areas of the state for the same type of offenses.

There's one in every bunch. (/s)

23 posted on 07/23/2009 6:16:46 PM PDT by This_far
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To: AuntB
Estimated value of the marijuana would be $2,000 to $3,500 per pound

I love how law enforcement always inflates the value of their seizures. Nobody in their right mind would pay $2000/lb from the manufacturer. More likely would have have sold for 800-1000/lb. I'm not endorsing the practice, mind you. Simply pointing out the disinformation in the article most likely provided by the police to increase the gravitas of their bust. Pot is like any other for-profit enterprise. If you buy in large quantities from the manufacturer, you get substantial discounts. Everybody in the supply chain gets a little markup. No "distributor" is going to pay $125 per ounce for a product that sells on the street for $120 per ounce.
24 posted on 07/23/2009 6:21:01 PM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (Dum spiramus tuebimur - "While We Have Breath, We Will Defend")
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To: The_Sword_of_Groo

“I love how law enforcement always inflates the value of their seizures.”

Kinda like the appraised value of houses before the collapse?

Let’s assume this is all correct, that $1.2 billion was seized. I’m gonna assume that there won’t be any interruption in the supply in any place because of this seizure. Ergo, there must be an almost infinite supply out there, right? That there is no marijuana problem ‘cause everyone has what they want?

This means that all of the high-profile efforts on the stuff have been total failures, and authorities keep trying the same old tactics with the same results.


25 posted on 07/23/2009 6:35:57 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: NormsRevenge

This is a plant that consumes the greenhouse gas C02 and gives off life sustaining oxygen. Growing the plant will help slow global warming and consuming it will make you not care about global warming.

Spelled.... win win!


26 posted on 07/23/2009 6:44:05 PM PDT by Random Access
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To: Hodar

Pot is effectively legal in Southern Oregon. I have it on good authority that the D.A. has no interest in prosecuting growers, and the cops have been told to stop bringing cases.

There’s a store-front down the street for a “Medical Smokeshop”.


27 posted on 07/23/2009 6:48:51 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (It's the spending, stupid!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Pot is effectively legal in Southern Oregon.”

Michigan too, after our completely stupid “medical marijuana” law. I can’t remember the last time I heard of someone getting busted except as part of a much larger investigation.

The mayor of Flint, MI (yup, the place that wants to bulldoze part of the city) believes that marijuana can bring “green” jobs to the area.


28 posted on 07/23/2009 6:57:36 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: NormsRevenge

“Apple has just approved a new application for its must-have mobile device that locates legal marijuana dispensaries in the US for users of medical marijuana. The US$3 download lists the known locations of medical collectives, doctors, clinics and organizations, placing them conveniently on a Google map. When iPhone users are in need of a quick fix, they can activate the app to find the nearest source of legal cannabis.”

Well, hopefully the software gets updated tomorrow to eliminate this source...


29 posted on 07/23/2009 6:59:09 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: NormsRevenge

This is the same area where radical Muzzies are supposed to have set up training camps.


30 posted on 07/23/2009 7:46:21 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: stylecouncilor

Beverly Bubba


31 posted on 07/23/2009 7:51:15 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: Tennessee Nana

That figure was a little “high”


32 posted on 07/23/2009 7:54:50 PM PDT by Loud Mime (The Germans weren't Nazis per se - their SOCIALISTS were. Socialists are dangerous people...)
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To: TWohlford
Kinda like the appraised value of houses before the collapse?

Not exactly. The difference being that as it relates to home prices, some people were actually paying waaay too much and driving prices up. Nobody is paying the type prices represented by law-enforcement in that article.

That there is no marijuana problem ‘cause everyone has what they want?

i am not saying there is no marijuana problem. i am saying there is no problem getting marijuana

This means that all of the high-profile efforts on the stuff have been total failures, and authorities keep trying the same old tactics with the same results

To your point, yes. The supply is nearly infinite. it only takes a couple minutes on Google to see the monies spent trying to combat production, prevent importation, etc. Then take a look at any poll of people to see how many either currently or formerly use marijuana. I have seen reports where over 60% say yes, although I think 50% is more realistic. Authorities simply play "whack-a-mole" with suppliers

"How do you expect me to eradicate a weed?" - Harold J. Anslinger , Commissioner of Narcotics in the Bureau of Narcotics, in the Treasury Department - 1937
33 posted on 07/23/2009 8:08:10 PM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo (Dum spiramus tuebimur - "While We Have Breath, We Will Defend")
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To: Flycatcher
"It's becoming very dangerous to set foot in many of our wild places because of their remote pot farms and their paranoia in protecting them."

Good call! Especially when you're talking about my back yard!! (so to speak)

Oh... never let an old time english teacher see you call them the "sierras." The name Sierra-Nevada describes a range of mountains and there is only one Sierra-Nevada mountain range, or Sierra, for short.

I know, it's as picky as the San Franciscans insisting you must always call their city by it's full name, rather than just "Frisco," right?

34 posted on 07/23/2009 8:51:23 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Seems the criminal world is the only one left with any freedoms in CA...


35 posted on 07/23/2009 8:53:41 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Galloping suffocating American Socialism stinks like BO!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Yeah, they get testy in Frisco when you say Frisco, don't they? LOL!

I can get away with it. I'm a Niner fan!

36 posted on 07/23/2009 8:58:17 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: The_Sword_of_Groo
No "distributor" is going to pay $125 per ounce for a product that sells on the street for $120 per ounce.

$120/oz. on the street? Now I know why an old buddy moved from NYC to GA recently. LOL!! I never could figure out why he did it. LOL!!!

37 posted on 07/24/2009 5:15:31 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: AuntB
More eye openers on the Mexican/South American invasion of the United States, as if we needed any further examples. This past week we have had occasion to spend a bit of time in the ICU Lounge at one of our major SoCal hospitals--simply mind blowing. On several days, packed wall-to-wall with hispanics, very few of whom spoke any english.

Lets be sure to remember to thank our corrupt Washington elite for their de facto open borders policy, as they continue to dream of replacing all of us pesky American voters with the new dumbed down horde of invaders looking for free everything as promised by our Washington elite.

38 posted on 07/24/2009 10:20:35 AM PDT by Czar ((Still Fed Up to the Teeth with Washington))
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