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Midwives Would Be Paid the Same as Doctors Under Provision in Health Care Bill
CNS News ^ | 7-24-09 | Adam Brickley

Posted on 07/24/2009 8:32:45 AM PDT by truthandlife

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To: Carry_Okie
Yikes - I realized we're a bit at cross-purposes.

When I say "natural childbirth" I don't mean "vaginal delivery". I mean going drug-free with Lamaze, Dick-Read, whatever.

My mom was a Dick-Read disciple (I still have her copy of Dick-Read's original book, the first edition), and I was probably one of the only natural childbirth babies in Atlanta GA at the time (mom had to shop all over to find an OB who would agree to even TRY this crazy idea).

My OB was open to the notion, but seemed to think that when push came to shove, so to speak, I would be asking for the epidural. As a matter of fact I did ask for an epidural at one point, but as soon as they checked me I was 10 and plus 2, so we said, "What the heck!" and daughter was born 10 minutes later. And as soon as I found out I was that far along it didn't hurt any more (proving once again that a lot of it is in your head.)

61 posted on 07/24/2009 2:21:08 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Carry_Okie
I'd rather let the market decide. Right now, midwife compensation is under the control of physicians.

What portion of ObamaCare would be market driven?

62 posted on 07/24/2009 2:45:45 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: NautiNurse
What portion of ObamaCare would be market driven?

What portion of your rhetorical question is truly directed to anything I've advocated?

63 posted on 07/24/2009 3:04:49 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Yikes - I realized we're a bit at cross-purposes.

Not really. You logically arrived at that because I didn't cite anything beyond physical consequences of c-sections to subsequent child development. However, I do think there are benefits to the pain of natural childbirth, most of which are related to the resulting bond between mother and child.

64 posted on 07/24/2009 3:10:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I think the pain of childbirth is overrated - my knee arthroscopy AND my hand surgery both hurt worse - but it’s probably just us tough old Scots. My mom was the same way - two kids by the Dick-Read method back when it was unheard of (I think the Doc was still alive at the time).


65 posted on 07/24/2009 3:23:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Carry_Okie

What market forces are you referring to in your previous post?


66 posted on 07/24/2009 7:06:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: Carry_Okie
I'm with you on this one. There have been countless f*ckups under the 'care' of board certified OBs and everyone knows it.

That said, I would never have a home birth with a lay midwife - never never never. I did, however, have hospital deliveries with a certified nurse midwife (who worked for an OB) who, as far as I'm concerned, walks on water. Had the monitoring, had an epidural for one, everything was great. With one I started hemorrhaging after the birth and she took care of it immediately.

67 posted on 07/24/2009 7:15:41 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Politicians: When they're not lying, they're stealing.)
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To: Lizavetta

Agreed, it is generally preferable to deliver at a hospital, but it could be a lot better. See Post 46.


68 posted on 07/24/2009 7:27:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (They were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Interesting.

Our first was a c-section due to his being 10 pounds, but all the rest were natural with our CNM.

How are those homeschooled daughters of yours doing?

69 posted on 07/24/2009 7:34:11 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Politicians: When they're not lying, they're stealing.)
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To: Lizavetta

At 16, one of them has four AP scores of 4, in calculus B-C (with a 5 on the A-B sub-score), biology, chemistry, and environmental science. We think she didn’t get a five this year because she was a little slow with the calculations and shy on lab experience. The younger didn’t test as well, although frankly, both my wife and I think her more innately intelligent. We don’t know what the problem was. So they’re both off to junior college next year, among other reasons because the older one can drive and they can attend lab classes (the lack of which I think was part of the problem). They should do fine.


70 posted on 07/24/2009 7:48:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (They were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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To: holden

Right. The pay will be so low no one will be arguing about this anyway.


71 posted on 07/24/2009 7:48:53 PM PDT by MarMema
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