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Scientists Outing ‘Gay Gene’ Myth
ncr ^ | July 24, 2009 | JANNEKE PIETERS

Posted on 07/24/2009 10:15:42 AM PDT by NYer

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21 posted on 07/24/2009 8:29:33 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: EEDUDE
everyone that I have known that is [homosexual] has been so miserable with it that I cannot totally discount the idea that it may indeed have a strong genetic component. The shame and ridicule they experience makes me believe that most would not be that way by choice.

Neurosis is very complex, and becomes addictive due to the ability of the brain to add brain cells in brain areas that we exercise often, as recent discoveries in stroke research have revealed. (Stroke recovery also shows that we can "reprogram" our brains to varying extents.)

Emotionally, persons who have been shamed and ridiculed as children, especially by their parents, may unconsciously seek out more of the same. It becomes confused with the quest for love because it's the only thing they've known. This configuration is seen in women who were abused in childhood and then unconsciously find abusers as partners to a greater extent than women who were not abused as children.

22 posted on 07/25/2009 12:39:15 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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To: NYer
The only way to know if someone is a homersexual is by observing their behavior or by their self identification.
23 posted on 07/25/2009 12:41:43 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: wildbill
Lots of research money was forthcoming after that gay gene argument was put forth and you don’t hear anything about a lifestyle choice much any more.

I agree with your entire post, part of which is reproduced here. I went to art school 'way back in the day and of course met many homosexuals. Their focus was on "being outrageous!" Many were guys who had poor relationships with their parents. "Being" gay was a way that they could place themselves beyond the pale of parental reproach. It was a way to force an artificial barrier between themselves and their families, sometimes because of rage at abuse; other times because of an overwhelming and inappropriate mother who tried to turn her son into a husband emotionally.

I read recently that the monies spent on AIDS research and support far exceed the funding for breast cancer, which affects exponentially more people than AIDS, often devastating entire families if a young mother dies.

24 posted on 07/25/2009 12:49:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Very interesting post — thanks.


25 posted on 07/25/2009 12:49:38 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; EEDUDE
And these days, the shame and ridicule is pretty minimal if you move somewhere like the Castro or Inman Park. Which is why there are so many more in-your-face homosexual agitators than there used to be.

The entire thrust of the gay-rights legal agenda is to put legal barriers in the way of any criticism of the lifestyle whatsoever. This is the basis of the "hate speech" codes, which in other countries have resulted in Christian pastors being jailed for reading the words of scripture concerning homosexual behavior. The stimulus bills in Congress during the present administration are trying to slip "hate speech" punishments under the radar here, mandating Federal penalties.

26 posted on 07/25/2009 12:53:40 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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To: NYer
the GLBT protagonists have already 'sold' society on homosexuality being genetic. This has garnered sympathetic support from Joe citizen all the way up to the President. And we, the taxpayer, will pay the ultimate price.


It's all been part of a long, slow, planned takeover:

Communist Goals read into the Congressional Record, 1963

27 posted on 07/25/2009 12:56:33 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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To: fwdude
I’ve never heard of this guy, Quinlan. If he’s for real, what a wonderful testimony to the real possibility that there’s hope for transformation from homosexual attraction. I don’t know why he’s been kept under [w]raps. Perhaps the Gaystapo has a contract out for him.

You know that they have, and always will. That is what politics has become in this country; and it will only get worse.

Here, as a recent spokesman for Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX), Greg Quinlan comments on the Democrat Congress' attempt to shoehorn "hate crimes" legislation into the recent Defense Authorization bill:
Ex-'gays' would suffer under 'hate crimes' law (7/20/09)

Greg Quinlan has been an ex-gay activist for a long time. He married an ex-lesbian many years his junior, and the couple used their relationship as part of their "proof" that change is possible. Unfortunately, this was a bad decision, because they divorced after a few years. With a 50% divorce rate in this country and the problems of age difference to begin with, it's hard to say what really happened. But of course, this divorce plays into the vitriol of the "born-gay" camp.

"Ex-Gay Watch" tells its spin on Greg Quinlan's story: Wife Divorces Ex-Gay Activist Greg Quinlan

28 posted on 07/25/2009 1:17:03 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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ping!


29 posted on 07/25/2009 1:23:21 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Yes, I did a search on Greg Quinlan after posting and saw the acrid vitriol launched against him on several homo-activist websites. It is a shame that he divorced after a few years, but that proves nothing of the homo-activists’ arguments, only that brokenness may last many years after healing begins. The homosexual activists are absolutely horrified at the prospect that same-sex attraction may, in fact, be mutable and not inborn. They will viciously fight any evidence that supports this - hence their absolute contempt for ex-”gays.”


30 posted on 07/25/2009 3:02:02 PM PDT by fwdude (Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below.)
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To: fwdude
Yes, I did a search on Greg Quinlan... It is a shame that he divorced after a few years, but that proves nothing of the homo-activists’ arguments, only that brokenness may last many years after healing begins....

In a very real way, the demise of heterosexual marriage due to the abandonment of religion and conservative traditions is one of the prime enablers of the fight for "gay marriage". Marxists have worked long and diligently to accomplish the take-down of conventional morality and the promotion of gay "normalization." When the people are stripped of private family and extended family networks, strong communities and common decency, they are much easier to overtake. As we are now seeing...

See post 27 (above) -- click the link and read how much the communist agenda has accomplished in the past half-century.

31 posted on 07/25/2009 3:55:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Jim Thompson for President.)
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To: Albion Wilde

You are so on target.


32 posted on 07/25/2009 8:21:45 PM PDT by fwdude (Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below.)
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