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Evangelist Alamo Found Guilty Of Kid-Sex Crimes [Why No Death By Firing Squad?]
AP Report ^ | July 24th 2009

Posted on 07/24/2009 11:27:38 AM PDT by Steelfish

Evangelist Alamo found guilty of kid-sex crimes

He calls himself 'prophet that went to jail for the Gospel'

Evangelist Tony Alamo, left, is escorted from federal court in Texarkana, Ark., on Thursday. A jury convicted him Friday of taking five girls across state lines for sex.

TEXARKANA, Ark. - Tony Alamo, a one-time street preacher who became an outfitter of the stars and fought the federal government over claims he underpaid followers for church work, was convicted Friday of taking five girls across state lines for sex.

Alamo stood silently as the verdict was read, a contrast to his occasional mutterings during testimony. His five victims sat looking forward in the gallery. One, a woman he "married" at age 8, wiped away a tear.

"I'm just another one of the prophets that went to jail for the Gospel," Alamo called to reporters afterward as he was escorted to a waiting U.S. marshal's vehicle.

Shouts of "Bye, bye, Bernie" — Alamo was born Bernie Lazar Hoffman — came from a crowd gathered on the Arkansas side of the courthouse, which straddles the Texas-Arkansas border.

Jurors were convinced Alamo had had sex with the girls when they were underage, but deliberated for more than a day to ensure that they considered everything, jury foreman Frank Oller of Texarkana said.

"That was the evidence. That was proven," Oller said. "We came up with a full decision that we are quite satisfied with."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: alamo; christian; evangelical; evangelists; kidsexcrimes; pedophiles; tonyalamo

1 posted on 07/24/2009 11:27:39 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

I got some advice for you Tony. If you drop the soap in the shower, pick it up slow and easy like.


2 posted on 07/24/2009 11:34:27 AM PDT by oyez
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To: oyez
I got some advice for you Tony. If you drop the soap in the shower, pick it up slow and easy like.

Does that fall under spare the "rod" and spoil the minister?

3 posted on 07/24/2009 11:35:57 AM PDT by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: Steelfish

He’s not another prophet who went to jail for the Gospel. He is just one more preadator off the street who used the Gospel to enhance his sexual contact list.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 11:36:03 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Steelfish

When he says he’s just another prophet going to prison for the gospel, I wonder what gospel he’s referring to?


5 posted on 07/24/2009 11:36:11 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: Steelfish

If evangelists were allowed to marry...oh, wait...nevermind.


6 posted on 07/24/2009 11:38:30 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: Steelfish

“I’m just another one of the prophets that went to jail for the Gospel,” Alamo called to reporters afterward as he was escorted to a waiting U.S. marshal’s vehicle.

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Uh...can someone show me in the Gospel where it says it’s ok to molest children?


7 posted on 07/24/2009 11:43:01 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: the invisib1e hand
"If evangelists were allowed to marry...oh, wait...nevermind."

His sins were, at least, heterosexual.

8 posted on 07/24/2009 11:43:14 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
His sins were, at least, heterosexual.

There are only two kinds of sin: mortal and venial.

9 posted on 07/24/2009 11:45:12 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: joesbucks
"Does that fall under spare the "rod" and spoil the minister? "

Horrible mental picture. Horrible.

10 posted on 07/24/2009 11:47:27 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

His sins were, at least, heterosexual.
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Un-frikkin’ believable. That is your takeaway from this story.

At least the 9 year old he molested was a girl?!?!?!?!?!

What kind of a human being thinks that way?


11 posted on 07/24/2009 11:53:31 AM PDT by dmz
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To: the invisib1e hand
"There are only two kinds of sin: mortal and venial. "

That's your opinion.

According to my Bible there is no a gradation of sins.

I wasn't meaning to sound like I was rating his sin level, rather the level of mental disturbance it demonstrates.

12 posted on 07/24/2009 11:56:03 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

So a man who molests a 9 year old girl is less mentally disturbed than a man who molests a 9 year old boy? And you calculate that how?


13 posted on 07/24/2009 11:59:48 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
"What kind of a human being thinks that way?"

Read into it whatever you want.

If my child was raped I'd rather it be by someone of the opposite sex.

I don't need to justify "what kind of human being" I am to you for feeling that way.

14 posted on 07/24/2009 11:59:56 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: the invisib1e hand; TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
There are only two kinds of sin: mortal and venial.

Actually, James puts it in another way when he said:

James 2:10 (Whole Chapter)
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

There really is know difference in the eyes of God, you commit one sin and you might as well have committed all sins.

Anyone can take you to hell if not dealt with.

Furthermore, one preacher's failure does not measure up to the thousands of priests that have abused children in the Catholic Church.

No comparison if you are being objective and it does nothing to really prove your point.
15 posted on 07/24/2009 12:01:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: the invisib1e hand

“There are only two kinds of sin: mortal and venial.”

There is only ONE kind of sin: SIN


16 posted on 07/24/2009 12:02:28 PM PDT by AnnGora (As a result of the Stimulus Bill, Napoleon has no more tots to give.)
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To: SoConPubbie
"No comparison if you are being objective and it does nothing to really prove your point. "

I don't feel any need to prove a point to you.

I think rape of someone of the same sex, of any age, is more whacked than someone of the opposite sex.

I think rape of anyone of any sex or age is whacked.

Now, with all due respect to you or anyone else who wants to take me to task because you think your opinion is superior and I owe it to you to spend time responding to your challenging my right to a different opinion, I'm afraid I have a life I have to live instead.

17 posted on 07/24/2009 12:08:05 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American; the invisib1e hand

Calm down.

My post was directed at the invisib1e hand


18 posted on 07/24/2009 12:12:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
"Calm down."

Sorry, Pubbie.

My post should have been addressed to dmz, who stated "That is your takeaway from this story.", when my original post was not about the story, but a response to the joking reference--by "the invisible hand"-- to the argument about molesting priests possibly being blamed on priests not being allowed to marry.

Thanks for the concern, by the way, but I'm calm.

19 posted on 07/24/2009 12:29:21 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

Homo or Heteral, take your pick.....

http://stopbaptistpredators.org/index.htm


20 posted on 07/24/2009 12:34:33 PM PDT by motoman
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

My post should have been addressed to dmz
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but wasn’t and neither was this one. That’s OK, I sure you were just too busy calculating which type of child molester is more whacked to remember to ping me.

Seriously, though, my apologies if I was overly harsh in my comments. Your words struck me immediately as just being wrong. But you are entirely correct, you don’t have to justify your opinions to anyone.

For my own money, though, I don’t have 2 buckets for child molesters, one bucket for the hetero variety and another for the homosexual variety. They are equally despicable from where I sit.

Can you really imagine God looking at 2 child molesters and thinking that he would go easier on the one who at least had the decency to rape a child of the opposite sex? I can’t.

As for your preference about your own kids ... that’s on you. Too weird to comment on.


21 posted on 07/24/2009 12:43:49 PM PDT by dmz
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To: SoConPubbie
Pity. I stopped paying attention after I said my piece.

Whomever suggested that a screwing underage girls is somehow a "better" sin that screwing underage boys dwells in another world.

22 posted on 07/24/2009 12:56:55 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: dmz
"As for your preference about your own kids ... that’s on you. Too weird to comment on."

I believe the rape of a child would be traumatic and confusing on many levels, and having it be by someone of the same sex would just add one more area of confusion.

I've known homosexuals who blamed their sexual orientation, (and "blamed" is the right word), on having been raped by an uncle or other adult when they were little boys.

But then, I'm sure this is way over your head, so let's just drop it.

23 posted on 07/24/2009 3:16:50 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (E)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

But then, I’m sure this is way over your head, so let’s just drop it.
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sad that legitimate disagreements need to end with questions of intelligence


24 posted on 07/26/2009 6:33:25 PM PDT by dmz
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