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Suburban survivalists stock up for Armageddon (Food, guns, ammo., etc.)
msnbc.com (GAG) ^ | July 23, 2009 | Mike Hammer

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:24:45 PM PDT by appleseed

Some see the current economic downturn as tough — but temporary — times to be endured. But others see it as a harbinger of even grimmer days ahead. So they’re preparing for the worst by stockpiling food: piles and piles and piles of it.

Call them “suburban survivalists,” or call them, well, a little goofy. But they’re dead serious about being ready for a big crash … by making sure they have a nice little nosh in case of a catastrophe. Across the country, there are people preparing for the possibility that we will not have access to food by ensuring that their cupboards, at least, will be far from bare.

Postapocalyptic Pathmark Take Bill Cole, a dad and doctor who runs a successful chiropractic office. He seems like the guy next door … which is where you may have to go to politely borrow a cup (or a barrel) of sugar should a fatal financial meltdown occur.

Cole has turned his home in the suburbs of Pittsburgh into a virtual postapocalyptic Pathmark. “I’ve got enough to last two years for me and my immediate family,” he says. His stockpile is filled with foods that can stand the test of time — from peanuts to pancake mix, canned peaches to peas.

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Sorry about linking to MSNBC folks. I think it's significant when 0bama controled media reports stuff that we all can see coming. They put in their digs on us throughout the article but at least it's getting out.

Call me "a little goofy" but at least I'm ready for most things that may happen. Once MSM starts reporting on our stockpiling of guns & ammo., you know the time is near.

1 posted on 07/24/2009 3:24:46 PM PDT by appleseed
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2 posted on 07/24/2009 3:26:02 PM PDT by appleseed
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ping


3 posted on 07/24/2009 3:26:52 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: appleseed

Bullets will be a HUGE bargaining commodity. Stock up while you can.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 3:27:41 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: appleseed

He really should not be broadcasting his plans.


5 posted on 07/24/2009 3:28:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: appleseed

Funny. Those along the Gulf Coast know all about stockpiling supplies - because the gubbermint tells us to. So, how is this any different other than the guns and ammo? Oh, that’s right. It’s because we may use that weaponry against their beloved marxist government. That’s what makes us “goofy”.


6 posted on 07/24/2009 3:30:59 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: appleseed

I just watched a film clips from Beck and others-

http://www.trendsresearch.com/forecast.html
GERALD CELENTE
He talks about a serious collapse, crime,etc
Also previous FR postings on this guy.


7 posted on 07/24/2009 3:31:26 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: appleseed

Chances are those reporting and scoffing won’t survive because they think it’s goofy


8 posted on 07/24/2009 3:31:31 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: appleseed

I’d like to see MSNBC do a series on Left-wing lunatics—who are far more numerous, deluded and dangerous than these folks.


9 posted on 07/24/2009 3:32:51 PM PDT by RepublicanMeansAmerican
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To: unixfox

Real question:

If the time comes when ammo becomes a form of currency, does it make more sense to stock up on ammo now than on nonperishable foods?

I mean we hear all these ads saying buy gold now, and yet how does one use a gold coin worth $900 or so to pay for groceries?

I do keep a small stash of silver U.S. cartwheels, but at $20 apiece true value, they seem much more fungible.

Comments?


11 posted on 07/24/2009 3:33:56 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: appleseed

I have started watching the ED Show on MSNBC, which comes on after Glenn Beck on Fox. Why would conservatives not watch the other side? Its entertaining and you can see how the other side thinks. Its not like MSNBC can brainwash you or anything.

Workers of the World, Unite! Heil Hitler! Cap and Trade! Cap and Trade!

parsy, who is starting to worry about his carbon footprint, and his treatment of trans-gender individuals


12 posted on 07/24/2009 3:34:10 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: appleseed

Hmm? What a dumba$$. Pittsburg is a bit far from where I live in Providence, RI. But at least I know where a supply of provisions are should I need them.


13 posted on 07/24/2009 3:35:49 PM PDT by fso301
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To: parsifal

I sometimes do the same with CHrissy and Ed, but I draw the line with Olberman. Makes my blood pressure rise!


14 posted on 07/24/2009 3:36:27 PM PDT by GoCards (Behind Sarah 100%)
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To: appleseed
Call them “suburban survivalists,” or call them, well, a little goofy

...but don't call then "hungry". ...or "victims".

15 posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:15 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: appleseed
Note to Media: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING PREPARED!!!!!! And dang if you aren't going to regret that you aren't.
16 posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:36 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.)
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To: parsifal
parsy, who is starting to worry about his carbon footprint, and his treatment of trans-gender individuals

Whoa. You might be overdoing it a mite, Friend...

17 posted on 07/24/2009 3:38:36 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: appleseed

“Send money guns and lawyers,
the sh*t has hit the fan”

I miss ol’ Warren, except that he was a buddy of Letterman’s.


18 posted on 07/24/2009 3:38:55 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: elcid1970

Whiskey
Rum
Sugar
Flour

These are some good tradin’ supplies....(IMO)


19 posted on 07/24/2009 3:39:13 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.)
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To: appleseed
I'm with you.

Our state officials say every Hurricane season that everybody should be prepared for three days. I beat that by a long shot.

Also, we who keep a close eye on the news will be able to top off the pantry shelves with nice to have stuff about 6 hours before the panic stampede starts for basic items.

20 posted on 07/24/2009 3:39:33 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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21 posted on 07/24/2009 3:40:06 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Which is the reality once someone is duped to go on camera or be written about for the media to exploit, so their point of people like this being goofy is documented...

Suburban Survival??? hehehe

Rural...The only way to go...


22 posted on 07/24/2009 3:40:39 PM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: elcid1970
It makes sense to stock up on both ammo and non-perishable foods IMO.

As to gold, I've always felt that 1/10th rounds made a lot more sense than 1 oz rounds do, but that's just me. I've also been buying silver 1 oz rounds and bars because I felt, like you, they'd be a lot easier to deal with.

YMMV.

23 posted on 07/24/2009 3:40:39 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: PeteB570

Also, we who keep a close eye on the news will be able to top off the pantry shelves with nice to have stuff about 6 hours before the panic stampede starts for basic items.


The MAIN reason I keep watching the (dire) news every day.

I’d rather deal with the stress of what’s happening in the world and be prepared, than have my head in the sand and be blindsided by catastrophe when (not if) it hits.


24 posted on 07/24/2009 3:41:37 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.)
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To: elcid1970

I bought a bunch of silver quarters. I figure they will be quite usable.


25 posted on 07/24/2009 3:46:23 PM PDT by greeter70 (`I)
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To: PeteB570
"Our state officials say every Hurricane season that everybody should be prepared for three days. I beat that by a long shot.

Also, we who keep a close eye on the news will be able to top off the pantry shelves with nice to have stuff about 6 hours before the panic stampede starts for basic items." + 1!!!

Did you feel as 'goofy' as I did having the only power, lights, food, water, fuel, etc, etc in the neighborhood?

26 posted on 07/24/2009 3:46:46 PM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: elcid1970

Just my opinion but you can’t eat gold or silver.


27 posted on 07/24/2009 3:52:39 PM PDT by appleseed
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To: appleseed
Suburban survivalists stock up for Armageddon to defend constitution (Food, guns, ammo., etc.)

there. fixed it.

28 posted on 07/24/2009 3:52:43 PM PDT by Eddie01 (I fixed my well... which is nice.)
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To: appleseed

Silver coins, canned goods, ammo. We can get all protein from the ocean. Cast nets, hooks,shrimp net, sinkers, artificial lures,mask, snorkel, fins=crab, lobster, fish, shrimp.


29 posted on 07/24/2009 4:03:26 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: elcid1970

I’ve been meaning to get some junk silver, especially dimes.


30 posted on 07/24/2009 4:04:26 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: WVKayaker

I told hubby awhile back......if you have enough guns and ammo you can get anything you want. ;)


31 posted on 07/24/2009 4:05:08 PM PDT by sheana
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To: mojitojoe

If I’ve got ammo and you’ve got food... Well...


32 posted on 07/24/2009 4:08:27 PM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: SiVisPacemParaBellum

Ha, :-) you should live on my block. Half the folks are retired Army.

Any gang of looters following the sound of generators will find a well armed block.

If really bad times come I’m sure we could talk the libs on the block into falling in with us. Of course, no Black Rifles for them. They would have to be content with bolt action surplus rifles.


33 posted on 07/24/2009 4:08:33 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: appleseed
Call them “suburban survivalists,” or call them, well, a little goofy.

Yes, anyone who doesn't rely on the government 100% of the time for 100% of their needs and count on 100% continuity of that support is "a little goofy".

These simpletons are going to wake up in the middle of a living, breathing nightmare, and start off by immediately demanding that the "goofy" food preppers give up all their food so that it can be equally distributed among everyone who scoffed at preparing.

34 posted on 07/24/2009 4:10:50 PM PDT by John Titor
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To: appleseed

I don’t own any firearms or ammo or weapons of any kind. I also don’t belong to or visit any rightwing political websites.


35 posted on 07/24/2009 4:11:11 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: chadwimc

I’ve got ammo too, so we are good to go. Lobster or snapper?


36 posted on 07/24/2009 4:12:56 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: appleseed

I’d like to be on your pinglist please.


37 posted on 07/24/2009 4:15:03 PM PDT by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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To: sheana
I have over 100 vac bags of coffee... and that's just coffee... plus I have 500 pounds of dry dog food!

Spot and I aren't worried!

38 posted on 07/24/2009 4:15:37 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( An intellectual hate is the worst. - William Butler Yeats)
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To: appleseed
First of all, survivalists are the only demographic out there actually consuming right now, so they are doing their part to stimulate the economy.

Second, if it helps people feel better and have more control over their situation, why not? The people who know they have taken care of themselves can be more focused on taking care of others if it ever comes to that.

Third, if things ever do hit the fan, we need to be focused on more important things, like building a thunderdome, so we can watch the entertainment provided by the less prepared.

39 posted on 07/24/2009 4:15:41 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: PeteB570
I’m sure we could talk the libs on the block into falling in with us. Of course, no Black Rifles for them. They would have to be content with bolt action surplus rifles.

I'd give them sticks and make them stand guard.

40 posted on 07/24/2009 4:16:24 PM PDT by SIDENET ("Join me or die. Can you do any less?" -Mr. Sparkle)
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To: WVKayaker

Well I agree, without coffee there is no reason to live anyway!


41 posted on 07/24/2009 4:18:47 PM PDT by sheana
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To: SiVisPacemParaBellum
Did you feel as 'goofy' as I did having the only power, lights, food, water, fuel, etc, etc in the neighborhood?

Flood, tornado, blackout?

42 posted on 07/24/2009 4:27:32 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: SIDENET

Oh, I’d make them stand guard.

But I’d give them shooting leasons with .22s, arm them with the surpluse rifles and then have them man the perimeter.

No sense having an outpost overrun and then have to take it back again. Besides, gun shots are good early warning.

It would have to be real “end of time” stuff to get marauding gangs cruising over to our neighborhood looking for loot. Every other porch having a man or woman with a rifle would tell the visiters its time to move on.


43 posted on 07/24/2009 4:34:25 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: elcid1970

You’ll need wheat. Hard Red Spring Wheat. And you’ll need a GOOD grinder; preferably one that can be either electrically run OR hand-cranked, ‘cuz the power WILL go out, and who knows for how long.

A single bushel of wheat is good for about 70-75 loaves of fresh bread. Figure you’ll be on a subsistence diet, so bread will be a major staple. That’d mean you’d be allocating about 1/3 loaf per person per day, assuming you’ve got veggies, occasional meat, and maybe seasonal fresh fruit available.

Now, we’ve got to suss out just how long this will need to go on. I’ve good reason to vote for 1335 days, but figure a full five years on the outside, just to allow for contingencies (early onset of duress, or delayed recovery of the supply chain afterward).

All told, then, you’d need enough wheat to bake 610 loaves of bread in order to get you through; dividing by 70 and rounding up (to be conservative) that’s 9 bushels of wheat per person; 540 pounds.

Now, I happen to have priced Hard Red Spring Whate just a few weeks ago, and found that it could be had at retail in manageable 50-pound sacks for under $30 each; $28 to be exact.

Figure each person would need 11 50-pound sacks of what to see them through five years of duress, and that comes out to a little over $300.

At that rate, you can stock up on wheat AND keep most all of your precious metals. Just be sure you store your grain in a DRY location that is impervious to vermin and other pests, because they WILL get into it if they can.

AND...lasty but not leastly...get yer butt ta church on Sunday; open Book, insert face. No use goin’ through all of this trouble to be prepared for upheaval, only to fall short at the end ‘cuz ya missed the main point of it.


44 posted on 07/24/2009 4:34:25 PM PDT by HKMk23 (1335)
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To: umgud
I don’t own any firearms or ammo or weapons of any kind. I also don’t belong to or visit any rightwing political websites.

LOL! Yeah, sure...

Me either.

45 posted on 07/24/2009 4:37:32 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: elcid1970

Oh.

THREE more brief points:

1. DON’T go blabbing about your stockpile.

2. Guns and ammo may be required to defend your supply of wheat, so have plenty on-hand.

3. Failure to observe point 1 will increase the probability you’ll be faced with point 2.


46 posted on 07/24/2009 4:38:12 PM PDT by HKMk23 (1335)
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To: HKMk23

You don’t live me do you? :-)

You can run the commisary, I’ve got the arsenal and guard detail. The “hospital” is about five houses up on the left.


47 posted on 07/24/2009 4:40:24 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: HKMk23

It’s posts like yours that make me glad to be a FReeper. Thanks for the great info.


48 posted on 07/24/2009 4:41:17 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: HKMk23

Vote for 1335 days?


49 posted on 07/24/2009 4:41:33 PM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: elcid1970
I mean we hear all these ads saying buy gold now, and yet how does one use a gold coin worth $900 or so to pay for groceries?

Um, the gold is not for "buying groceries."

Bartering for the food you haven't already stocked up on in the form of other tangibles is how one would obtain groceries in a meltdown.

IOW "I'll trade you 500 rounds of .308 for your cow" presumably with another equally prepped individual, not with the hoards who ignored the stormclouds.

People who wait and then try to exchange gold for basic neccessities will be known as "victims."

The gold is for a brief period as things really spiral in a panic. OR one can exchange gold for land/large purchases AFTER things start returning to normal, but before people start trusting printed scrip again.

Gold's only real function is to store your wealth for when a veneer of civilization exists. It won't make you rich or save your hide when the poo hits the fan but it will help you prosper and rebuild later.

Gold has its place but bullets and food come first!

50 posted on 07/24/2009 4:42:01 PM PDT by JOAT
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