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Paper: Bush Considered Sending Troops Into New York
FoxNews ^ | July 24, 2009

Posted on 07/24/2009 10:38:47 PM PDT by Sammy67

The Bush administration in 2002 considered sending U.S. troops into a Buffalo, New York, suburb to arrest a group of terror suspects, the New York Times reported.

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration in 2002 considered sending U.S. troops into a Buffalo, New York, suburb to arrest a group of terror suspects in what would have been a nearly unprecedented use of military power within the United States, The New York Times reported.

Vice President Dick Cheney and several other Bush advisers at the time strongly urged that the military be used to apprehend men who were suspected of plotting with Al Qaeda, who later became known as the Lackawanna Six, the Times reported on its Web site Friday night. It cited former administration officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; buffalo; counterterrorism; georgebush; islam; jihadinamerica; lackawanna; lackawannasix; lakeerie; lakeontario; mosque; muslim; nationalguard; newyork; nys; september12era; terrorism; westernnewyork; wli; worldlifeinstitute; wot

1 posted on 07/24/2009 10:38:47 PM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

The fact that this story made the news is NOT good news. Something is up. “See... Bush was going to do it...” Be fearful!


2 posted on 07/24/2009 10:40:44 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Sammy67
All the horsesh** that's fit to excrete. These stories have been on the sideline for sometime.
3 posted on 07/24/2009 10:42:33 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Sammy67

Yeah...and if pigs had wings they’d be eagles.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 10:45:56 PM PDT by NewLand (What does 0bama know and when did he know it?)
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To: Sammy67

Do you think Obama would not send in troops to quell TEA parties?


5 posted on 07/24/2009 10:46:59 PM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: Sammy67
So? They were armed, or presumably armed, *foreign* enemies. That's why have a military, to defend against armed foreigners. Even those not formally part of any nation's military. Just because they'd already invaded, doesn't mean the military can't be used to take 'em out..

If a bunch of Cuban, or North Korean, commandos came ashore from a sub on a remote beach somewhere, would these people say, "let the FBI handle them"? I think not. Especially if they were sewing havoc in their neighborhoods. (That might be fun to watch, just cordon the place off and let them deal with it)

6 posted on 07/24/2009 10:48:42 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Sammy67
"It cited former administration officials who spoke on condition of anonymity."

There's those words again.

7 posted on 07/24/2009 10:54:35 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences.)
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To: El Gato

That is what I think too. Our troops can only fight enemies somewhere other than the United States?


8 posted on 07/24/2009 11:09:19 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: allmost

The press has to rag on POTUS Bush, to try and get Obama out of the crappola hole he has put him self in.. have to appoint a special prosecutor for something that never happened,, but the seriousness of the charge...


9 posted on 07/24/2009 11:09:38 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Sammy67

All the rags (and AP) are trying to stir this up. As if all presidents don’t “mull” sending troops to places they’ve never been.


10 posted on 07/24/2009 11:11:30 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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To: April Lexington

Yep. The 0bamabots will say that since Bush was considering ignoring Posse Comitatus, it makes it O.K. for 0 to actual ignore it and act on it. However, I doubt that the military will follow such an order from 0.


11 posted on 07/24/2009 11:11:46 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sammy67

Personally I think it’s to draw attention from Obama and this Gates/Crowley debacle. Plus something’s soon to be up in Honduras.


12 posted on 07/24/2009 11:12:48 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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To: El Gato

Were these guys all foreigners, or were any of them American citizens? I can’t remember. If they were truely foreigners, then I would understand using our armed forces to deal with them. But, if any of them were American citizens (either born here or immigrated here and then became citizens), then using the military should not even be considered.


13 posted on 07/24/2009 11:13:23 PM PDT by joejm65
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To: panthermom
That is what I think too. Our troops can only fight enemies somewhere other than the United States?

They can't be used against American citizens...if foreign enemies are on U.S. soil they're dead meat.

14 posted on 07/24/2009 11:14:20 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sammy67
I don't know who the idiots are, but WHY would you need "troops" to do what the FBI or local police could easily do?

Story sounds a bit FISHY to me.

15 posted on 07/24/2009 11:17:08 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: VeniVidiVici

“Plus something’s soon to be up in Honduras.”

DING, DING, DING....

Spoke with a VERY well-connected military family member tonite. All I’ll say is watch what unit cadres get attached to Southern Command in the next few weeks.

Could be none, and it could be some...


16 posted on 07/24/2009 11:20:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Mogollon
That is my big fear. Bush screwed the constitution on that one. “Never let a crisis go to waste...”
17 posted on 07/24/2009 11:23:01 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Mogollon

So you’re telling me that if cells of so called naturalized or legal aliens, say a group like the Taliban, took over cities throughout our country only law enforcement could handle it?


18 posted on 07/24/2009 11:30:07 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: tcrlaf
Could be none, and it could be some...

With Obama at the helm, I'll be afraid to look.

19 posted on 07/24/2009 11:36:28 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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To: FlyVet
Now that this story is on FreeRepublic, I've heard it plastered all over the bottom-of-the-hour news.

It supposedly happened in 2002, but here it is, coming out seven years later, on a Friday night (supposedly when no one is paying attention, right?).

Anybody else think this is a little strange?

20 posted on 07/24/2009 11:37:19 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Sammy67

The professor they interviewed seems to have forgotten Eisenhower’s use of the 101st Airborne at Central High. I’d call that a law enforcement function.


21 posted on 07/24/2009 11:41:00 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Sammy67
Vice President Dick Cheney and several other Bush advisers at the time strongly urged that the military be used to apprehend men who were suspected of plotting with Al Qaeda”

Good.
That's why I love Cheney, a strong, tough, no-nonsense man.

22 posted on 07/24/2009 11:43:45 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: April Lexington
Obama is under 50%. Time to elevate him by tearing down the other side.

A sign of desperation in an incumbent.

23 posted on 07/24/2009 11:44:35 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (A woman will be the next President; I hope it's Palin instead of HRC.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Wow! Not much left of the GOP to tear down! We did that part ourselves with McCain...


24 posted on 07/24/2009 11:46:55 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Finalapproach29er
People in our communities who continue to support Obama need to be ostracized. Elections have consequences and if you vote for a communist, you can kiss your free market job good by. Hire only free market supporting employees. Plenty to chose from...
25 posted on 07/24/2009 11:50:24 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: panthermom
only law enforcement could handle it?

I wouldn't say that, but military should never, ever be used on our own soil unless absolutely necessary.

We ever get used to that idea, the next step is, "Mind if I camp out in your home for awhile? And if you do mind, that's too bad."

Our Founders knew it was a dangerous path, but we tend to forget.

26 posted on 07/24/2009 11:53:40 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Sammy67
They were likely basing thier actions on this:

Public Law 107-40
107th Congress

Joint Resolution

To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.
Whereas, on September 11, 2001, acts of treacherous violence were committed against the United States and its citizens; and
Whereas, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that the United States exercise its rights to self-defense and to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad; and
Whereas, in light of the threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by these grave acts of violence; and
Whereas, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States; and
Whereas, the President has authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States: Now, therefore, be it Resolved

by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for Use of Military Force''.

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) In General.--That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements.--
(1) Specific statutory authorization.--Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.
(2) Applicability of other requirements.--Nothing in this resolution supercedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

Approved September 18, 2001.

27 posted on 07/25/2009 12:25:18 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: ArmstedFragg
I don't know who was PoUS at the time but they called it 'The Veterans March on Washington' somewhere around 1918- 1920’s I think. They called out the Military and if I am not wrong, they fired on the Marchers.
28 posted on 07/25/2009 12:27:17 AM PDT by Peacekeeper357 (This is not a free ride. Become a monthly donor like me.)
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To: Peacekeeper357
The Bonus Marchers. They got roughed up a bit by young men MacArthur, Patton, and Eisenhower.

http://www.worldwar1.com/dbc/bonusm.htm

29 posted on 07/25/2009 12:33:56 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: panthermom

It is currently against the law to use our own troops against our own citizens.

While bubba used our military to attack the compound in WACO he tried hard to hide that fact. Weasley Clark was involved in that disaster.


30 posted on 07/25/2009 12:40:39 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Sammy67

I am waiting for U.S. troops to decide to send themselves into a certain situation


31 posted on 07/25/2009 12:51:12 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Sammy67

My wife and I are considering having a fifth child. My wife and I are considering moving to a mansion. My wife and I are considering quitting our jobs and living under a bridge. My wife and I are considering putting up our four kids for adoption. Why does consideration all of a sudden becomes important and matter? I don’t get it. Are FREEPERS upset about this? I am not. I believe that President Bush considered a great deal of things while he was in office. WTH???


32 posted on 07/25/2009 12:52:25 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Peacekeeper357

Rodney King riots, 1992. Marines, Army, and National Guard.


33 posted on 07/25/2009 1:13:39 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: GeronL
Do you think Obama would not send in troops to quell TEA parties?

If he did, I suspect by the next day he'd need to make a larger deployment that both Iraq and Afghanistan together within our own borders.

34 posted on 07/25/2009 2:42:47 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Carley
While bubba used our military to attack the compound in WACO he tried hard to hide that fact. Weasley Clark was involved in that disaster.

Uh, yeah. What's with the word "unprecedented" in this story?

35 posted on 07/25/2009 2:54:04 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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To: Caipirabob

I don’t know anymore. I suspect that less than a quarter of the people would even say a word. A tenth if we’re lucky would be out protesting for a day or two. How many would take up arms? A tenth of a tenth?


36 posted on 07/25/2009 2:58:26 AM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: Sammy67

But, he didn’t. End of story.


37 posted on 07/25/2009 3:00:45 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Sammy67
The Bush administration in 2002 considered sending U.S. troops into a Buffalo, New York, suburb to arrest a group of terror suspects, the New York Times reported.

I'm all for it.Whatever it takes to get rid of Hillary and Chuck Shumer.They've been terrorizing New York for too long.

38 posted on 07/25/2009 3:15:17 AM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: panthermom
That is what I think too. Our troops can only fight enemies somewhere other than the United States?

Based on the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Civil War, I would say ummmm... No.
39 posted on 07/25/2009 3:29:50 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Nanny states don't come cheap.)
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To: Cheburashka

You forgot the Whiskey Rebellion and the WV Mine Wars.


40 posted on 07/25/2009 4:44:48 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: Sammy67

ONLY TWO WORDS NEEDED IN RESPONSE... SO WHAT!

LLS


41 posted on 07/25/2009 5:35:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Big Giant Head

The msm doing it’s usual thing. Lying.


42 posted on 07/25/2009 5:56:23 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Sammy67
Sending in military to arrest or kill enemies of the nation? What's the problem?

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;

43 posted on 07/25/2009 6:07:21 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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