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Lawmakers Confirm House Health Care Bill Promotes Euthanasia Among Elderly
LifeNews ^ | July 24, 2009 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 07/25/2009 6:04:09 AM PDT by NYer

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Two Republican leaders in the House of Representatives are confirming reports that the health care restructuring bill the House is currently considering promotes euthanasia. A leading patients rights advocate is worried about the effects of the legislation.

Betsy McCaughey, the former New York lieutenant government who is now a patient's rights advocate, notes that the government-run health care plan would require "end of life" counseling for seniors.

The counseling, she says, would be focused on telling seniors how to end their lives sooner.

In a statement sent to LifeNews.com House Republican Leader John Boehner Republican Policy Committee Chairman Thaddeus McCotter confirm those fears.

"Section 1233 of the House-drafted legislation encourages health care providers to provide their Medicare patients with counseling on ‘the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration’ and other end of life treatments,'" the pair say.

That section "may place seniors in situations where they feel pressured to sign end of life directives they would not otherwise sign."

"This provision may start us down a treacherous path toward government-encouraged euthanasia if enacted into law. At a minimum this legislative language deserves a full and open public debate – the sort of debate that is impossible to have under the politically-driven deadlines Democratic leaders have arbitrarily set for enactment of a health care bill," they state.

The members of Congress call the section a throwback to 1977 when the old Department of Health Education and Welfare proposed federal promotion of living wills for cost-savings purposes described as "enormous."

At that time, the late Cardinal Joseph Bernardin of Chicago decried this effort by saying, "'The message is clear: government can save money by encouraging old people to die a little sooner than they otherwise would. Instead of being regarded with reverence, and cherished, human life is subject in this view to a utilitarian cost-benefit calculus and can be sacrificed to serve fiscal policy and the sacred imperative of trimming a budget."

Boehner and McCotter are especially concerned about the provision given that Oregon and Washington have legalized assisted suicide and Montana has given conditional approval depending on the outcome of a state Supreme Court decision.

“With three states having legalized physician-assisted suicide, this provision could create a slippery slope for a more permissive environment for euthanasia, mercy-killing and physician-assisted suicide because it does not clearly exclude counseling about the supposed benefits of killing oneself," they say.

"Health care reform that fails to protect the sanctity and dignity of all human life is not reform at all," the conclude.

In section 1233 of the tri-committee health care bill, a government-run "Advance Care Planning Consultation" is created.

McCaughey, in an interview with former presidential candidate Fred Thompson on his radio show warned people to "protect their parents" from the measure and said the consultation is essentially an attempt to kill off elderly Americans.

"One of the most shocking things is page 425, where the Congress would make it mandatory absolutely that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session," she said. "They will tell [them] how to end their life sooner.

The bill calls for the recommendation of "palliative care and hospice" in the mandatory counseling sessions, which is pain relief as patients die.

The House bill requires "an explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and supports that are available under this title."

The measure also recommends a discussion on "the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration," which suggests that elderly patients could be advised not to receive it, which would hasten death.


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KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; elderly; euthanasia; mccaughey; prolife
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1 posted on 07/25/2009 6:04:09 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
The tragic irony in this is that the bill funds abortion on demand, essentially destroying the tax base needed to fund the health care bill! With insufficient funds, it is now incumbent on society to eliminate the feeble and elderly.

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2 posted on 07/25/2009 6:06:11 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

Where the sHELL is AARP on this? This is insane.


3 posted on 07/25/2009 6:06:18 AM PDT by Reagan69 (No Representation without Taxation)
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To: NYer

Plus illegals won’t pay the $2500 fines I will be forced to pay for the exact same ‘coverage’


4 posted on 07/25/2009 6:06:45 AM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: NYer

BABY BOOMERS: OBAMAS SOYLENT GREEN generation...


5 posted on 07/25/2009 6:07:14 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: NYer
Here is a link to the full House Democrat Health Care Plan in PDF. In Section 1233 E & F, pages 426-433, you find the part about mandatory end-of-life counseling for anyone over 65 years of age. A lot more provisions now being documented at that site.

HOUSE DEMOCRAT HEALTH CARE PLAN - http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Also, here's a large image of the Democratic (Obama) Health Plan chart-another Obama empty promise. This is the one the House democrats are censuring. Email these links or the image to everyone you know.


Decmocrat (Obama) Health Plan
http://www.jeffhead.com/DemHealthCare.htm

Obama and all those pushing his radical agenda are abject marxist ideologues. Their "fundamental; change" is nothing more than a destruction of the American free market and fundamental republican principle.

A PETITION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA - A SONG
By Ron and Kay Rivoli

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

6 posted on 07/25/2009 6:09:03 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: All

What country are we living in?!!


7 posted on 07/25/2009 6:09:33 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: GeronL

“As long as the illegals vote correctly and breed little democrat voters, there will be neither euthanasia nor abortion for Hispanics. Catholics and the white elderly? That’s another matter.”

See how politics has entered this debate.

Get the US government out of healthcare. Save billions, improve delivery, let the markets fix the system.


8 posted on 07/25/2009 6:11:46 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - The wolf in the suit.)
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To: NYer

Welcome to the “new” Obama Reich.

As Rush says last night, Obama and the leftist Dems do not WANT healthcare reform, they want power (of life and death) over us all.


9 posted on 07/25/2009 6:13:04 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: NYer

If and when I want to know about euthanasia I will seek my own counselor, thank you.

They want to mandate euthanasia counseling every 5 years for those in Medicare. If you do not attend, will the government then feel free to terminate you?


10 posted on 07/25/2009 6:15:36 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama - The wolf in the suit.)
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To: NYer

We are living in a spoiled society of socialistic minded fools who have managed to get a song and dance routine together to put on a cheap show.

The show is over, the cotton candy was full of ants, the drinks were watered down, and the tent has a hole in its roof and its raining.

All the doom and gloom movies that have been made such as Soylent Green to The Postman are actually about to happen, why?

BECAUSE

AMERICA

WON”T

FIGHT

BACK!


11 posted on 07/25/2009 6:16:00 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: NYer

The Democrats wanna kill everybodys Gannys ‘n’ Gampas!


12 posted on 07/25/2009 6:21:48 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: NYer

“What country are we living in?!!”

Obama’s until we get him impeached.


13 posted on 07/25/2009 6:24:31 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: NYer; All
Better translation of DeathCare Details:
 
http://www.zdziarski.com/
 
July 23, 2009: 48 Important Things to Know About Obama's Healthcare Plan
You can download the complete bill text [ here ]

Incidentally, if you haven't watched Soylent Green yet, you should at least see the future of our country's end-of-life plans: [ Part 1 | Part 2 ].

14 posted on 07/25/2009 6:24:53 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: DGHoodini

This old white basterd wont go easy.


15 posted on 07/25/2009 6:25:28 AM PDT by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: NYer

[...that the government-run health care plan would require “end of life” counseling for seniors.]

Murdering democrat and rinos of the Congress will kneel before God for the evil they do, the Congress is guilty of murdering babies and older people they can no longer overtax.


16 posted on 07/25/2009 6:26:08 AM PDT by kindred ( Let God be true and every man a liar in order that thy sayings may be true and ...)
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To: NYer
The tragic irony in this is that the bill funds abortion on demand,

Socialized medicine always has as its goal to kill the weak and defenseless in the morning and early evening of life.

17 posted on 07/25/2009 6:26:33 AM PDT by behzinlea
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To: All

All the doom and gloom movies that have been made such as Soylent Green to The Postman are actually about to happen, why?

BECAUSE

AMERICA

WON”T

FIGHT

BACK!

Wrong! The GOP won’t fight back. It is the public burning up the phone lines to stop this !! Otherwise, it would have passed yesterday.


18 posted on 07/25/2009 6:27:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Rapscallion

[If and when I want to know about euthanasia I will seek my own counselor, thank you.]

If the abomanation health care plan is passed by the communist dems and rino lackeys, do you really think you will have a choice to what they will do when you fall into their murdering hands?
I think not.


19 posted on 07/25/2009 6:28:38 AM PDT by kindred ( Let God be true and every man a liar in order that thy sayings may be true and ...)
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To: backhoe

Excellent summation! Thank you for the post.


20 posted on 07/25/2009 6:32:09 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: wagglebee

Ping!


21 posted on 07/25/2009 6:32:36 AM PDT by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Rapscallion
They want to mandate euthanasia counseling every 5 years for those in Medicare.

If you do not attend, will the government then feel free to terminate you?

Or deny health care?

In the event of serious illness, mandatory euthanasia counseling sessions can be less than 5 years?

In the past patients have given doctors a god like image.

Now Messiah 0bamacare wants to play God, but the Messiah has not even taken time to read his own plan before rushing Congress to pass it !

22 posted on 07/25/2009 6:35:49 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: NYer

Sounds like democrats are really getting down to brass tacks. Vote for us, we’ll rig the count if you don’t, and kill yourself when we say so. Yep. Sounds like the dem way!


23 posted on 07/25/2009 6:38:34 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Reagan69

AARP supports the President and their latest magazine lauded the “universal” health coverage. They are swine and are feeding off the elderly who believe AARP is on their side. Poor old folks.


24 posted on 07/25/2009 6:42:35 AM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: NYer

I saw an elderly couple driving their car proudly displaying an obama sticker. Little do they realize that the current white house occupant has plans on denying them medical care in order to hasen their demise as they are obviously not worthy of being alive. The AARP is just a democrat mouthpiece with not an original thought in their head. God save us from the Evil One


25 posted on 07/25/2009 6:42:51 AM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: NYer

I think this link will lead to a My Computer Scan download hack/scam. Very unusual for a Mac.


26 posted on 07/25/2009 6:43:43 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: Reagan69

“Where the sHELL is AARP on this? This is insane.”

AARP is working to get this passed!


27 posted on 07/25/2009 6:47:03 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Rapscallion
“end of life” counseling for seniors.

You think Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy have received their counseling yet? may they should start looking over their should.

28 posted on 07/25/2009 6:49:01 AM PDT by buggy02 (Never take life seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway.)
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To: NYer

I have believed for some time that we are heading into an “Entitlements Crash” where the number of government handout that are mandated by Law have increased to the point that even with 100% taxation and borrowing like mad that the payments won’t be able to continue because the Government will have to declare bankruptcy.

I can therefore foresee more and more “schemes” to reduce the number of beneficiaries to these Entitlements. And getting the recipients to self-terminate really is a huge money saver.

I can also foresee more encouragement to take up dangerous lifestyles so as to self-terminate even earlier. And I just don’t mean just sexual lifestyles, I also mean thrill seekers, more drug usage, (great for Overdose deaths there), and bunch more that don’t come to mind right away.


29 posted on 07/25/2009 6:55:29 AM PDT by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare")
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To: NYer

In retrospect, this was the solution to the SocSec and Medicaid boomer bubble all along. A quietly whispered “you don’t have to pay for them if they are dead” was all it took. Be afraid, be very afraid.


30 posted on 07/25/2009 6:55:41 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (What if the Sanction of the Victim is withdrawn?)
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To: NYer
HEALTHCARE 1
31 posted on 07/25/2009 6:59:28 AM PDT by odin2008 (Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
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To: NYer

I know where NOT to move.

The problem with the USofA is that we have gotten so far from the Principles and Values of the Founding Fathers in the name of ‘multiculturalism’ that we’ve gotten lost. And this USofA is not that USofA and won’t be until we head back on course. It will take a STRONG President and STRONG Congress to grab controls of the Ship of State and turn us in the correct direction once again.


32 posted on 07/25/2009 7:09:36 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I believe in CHOICE: Let the Fetus decide whether to be born or to spontaneously abort. FETAL CHOICE)
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To: NYer

"Euthanasia? So, what's wrong with that!!??

33 posted on 07/25/2009 7:57:36 AM PDT by Gritty (The only way to “control costs” in health care is to have less of it - Mark Steyn)
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To: NYer

Should be called the ‘Obama Health Kill Bill’.


34 posted on 07/25/2009 8:06:28 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: mulligan
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35 posted on 07/25/2009 8:11:26 AM PDT by odin2008 (Everything in the universe is subject to change.)
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To: NYer

Scary. It’s “Logan’s Run.”


36 posted on 07/25/2009 8:25:53 AM PDT by USArmySpouse
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To: backhoe
Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free healthcare services.

Then maybe we need to tell them we are NOT US citizens, we are STATE Citizens as intended by the Founders.

"... a construction is to be avoided, if possible, that would render the law unconstitutional, or raise grave doubts thereabout. In view of these rules it is held that `citizen' means `citizen of the United States,' and not a person generally, nor citizen of a State ..."
U.S. Supreme Court in US v. Cruikshank, 92 US 542:

“Citizen of the United States”
In many cases the federal court does not have jurisdiction over a citizen unless they testify they are a citizen of the United States — meaning a federal citizen under the 14th Amendment.

-----

There is more than one type of citizen in our country, government knows this. They dupe the People into claiming to be US citizens so they can be controlled.

US citizens are creations of government via the 14th Amendment.

The People of the States are not citizens of THE United States, they are Citizens of THESE United States.

You can't claim to be part of the collective and then try to claim an individual right.

§ 1218. The inhabitants enjoy all their civil, religious, and political rights. They live substantially under the same laws, as at the time of the cession, such changes only having been made, as have been devised, and sought by themselves. They are not indeed citizens of any state, entitled to the privileges of such; but they are citizens of the United States. They have no immediate representatives in congress.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution

37 posted on 07/25/2009 8:54:21 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT an administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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To: NYer
FReepers need to turn up the heat on Ezekiel Emanuel, Rahms evil twin.

But since the media is telling them that "the healthcare bill is dead," they'll forget about it, and it'll be shoved up our collective @sses anyway.

38 posted on 07/25/2009 9:35:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: NYer; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

39 posted on 07/25/2009 10:02:34 AM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: NYer
Nazi medicine. It started with the anti-smoking campaigns.
40 posted on 07/25/2009 10:08:04 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: The Working Man
I can also foresee more encouragement to take up dangerous lifestyles so as to self-terminate even earlier. And I just don’t mean just sexual lifestyles, I also mean thrill seekers, more drug usage, (great for Overdose deaths there), and bunch more that don’t come to mind right away.

We will come full circle ... smoking will be encouraged, as will obesity, no seat belts in cars, no helmets for motorcycles, etc. There was an old Woodie Allen movie (can't remember the name) where the world finally discovered that french fries and ice cream were good for you. We laughed at the movie back then, never thinking that such notions would ever come to pass.

Up is down, down is up, right is wrong, wrong is right. What a world we're in!

41 posted on 07/25/2009 10:09:44 AM PDT by RightField (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: NYer
The tragic irony in this is that the bill funds abortion on demand, essentially destroying the tax base needed to fund the health care bill!

The ultimate Law of Unintended Consequences.

42 posted on 07/25/2009 10:17:33 AM PDT by RightField (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: NYer
Two Republican leaders in the House ... are confirming .. that the health care .. bill the House is currently considering promotes euthanasia. .. The government-run health care plan would require "end of life" counseling for seniors. ..House Republican Leader John Boehner ... confirm those fears. .. "Section 1233 ... "may place seniors in situations where they feel pressured to sign end of life directives they would not otherwise sign."

Excuse my language but Democrats are a bunch of sick sons-of-bit_hes!

They're mentally deranged NAZI eugenicists pretending to be civilized people. Every one of them should be locked up in mental asylums, not sitting in the US Congress writing *Helthcare* which will be nothing but mandatory death sentences for 'the unworthy'.

'Come On Grandmas, Let's Hurry.'

'It's Time For Your Showers.'
If and/or when they come for me, my wife, or family -- they BETTER bring an Army.
As I'll give them some 'end of life counseling' -- HOT lead!
43 posted on 07/25/2009 10:33:33 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51
Excuse my language but Democrats are a bunch of sick sons-of-bit_hes!

The Grim Reaper awaits us all if the democrats get their way:


44 posted on 07/25/2009 11:08:03 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: NYer
" The tragic irony in this is that the bill funds abortion on demand, essentially destroying the tax base needed to fund the health care bill! With insufficient funds, it is now incumbent on society to eliminate the feeble and elderly."

Yep. As you might imagine, old geezers like me arein their sights. I just posted a blogpost to my Half-Baked Sourdough page yesterday on this very topic, using this link.

45 posted on 07/25/2009 11:10:09 AM PDT by redhead (You don't have to be eaten by a bear to know he WILL eat you...Check the Half-Baked Sourdough!)
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To: NYer

Thanks- Zdziarski deserves a medal for wading through all that verbiage.


46 posted on 07/25/2009 2:01:29 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: NYer
Pinged from Terri Dailies


47 posted on 07/25/2009 2:16:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

ping


48 posted on 07/25/2009 2:36:07 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: All; NYer; wagglebee; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; xzins; Lesforlife; Dante3

Please consider emailing a talk show host(s), even a local one, to have Betsy McCaughey on their radio show. That’s what I did, and a talk show host had her on his show a few days later, and he thanked me for helping him.

If the talk show host needs her email, send me a PM and I’ll give it to you.


49 posted on 07/25/2009 10:45:42 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun
Who here thinks that 65 is "the elderly"? Anyone who has relatives at The Villages or Sun City, would beg to differ. They are more active than boomers: swimming, dancing, golfing, shopping, tennis...

Send Barack Obama for a townhall meeting at The Villages. See how that goes. LOL This should be hammered home to Senator Bill Nelson. He'd be killing his constituents if he votes for Obamacare.

50 posted on 07/28/2009 9:43:03 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Obama's Health Care Plan Puts the "you" in euthanasia.)
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