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A.P. Cracks Down on Unpaid Use of Articles on Web
New York Times ^

Posted on 07/25/2009 10:15:13 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

A.P. Cracks Down on Unpaid Use of Articles on Web By RICHARD PEREZ-PENA

Taking a new hard line that news articles should not turn up on search engines and Web sites without permission, The Associated Press said Thursday that it would add software to each article that shows what limits apply to the rights to use it, and that notifies The A.P. about how the article is used.

Tom Curley, The A.P.’s president and chief executive, said the company’s position was that even minimal use of a news article online required a licensing agreement with the news organization that produced it. In an interview, he specifically cited references that include a headline and a link to an article, a standard practice of search engines like Google, Bing and Yahoo, news aggregators and blogs.

Asked if that stance went further than The A.P. had gone before, he said, “That’s right.” The company envisions a campaign that goes far beyond The A.P., a nonprofit corporation. It wants the 1,400 American newspapers that own the company to join the effort and use its software.

“If someone can build multibillion-dollar businesses out of keywords, we can build multihundred-million businesses out of headlines, and we’re going to do that,” Mr. Curley said. The goal, he said, was not to have less use of the news articles, but to be paid for any use.

Search engines and news aggregators contend that their brief article citations fall under the legal principle of fair use. Executives at some news organizations have said they are reluctant to test the Internet boundaries of fair use, for fear that the courts would rule against them.

Mr. Curley declined to address the fair use question, or to say what action The A.P. would take against sites that use articles without licensing.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ap; associatedpress; propagandawingofdnc
what a business model..........
1 posted on 07/25/2009 10:15:13 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Hopefully this will finish them off!


2 posted on 07/25/2009 10:17:07 AM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Its bad enough reading Propaganda when its free. Who wants to pay for Propaganda?


3 posted on 07/25/2009 10:17:55 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: Sub-Driver

Good luck with that.
Their articles just won’t be cited, linked or shared.


4 posted on 07/25/2009 10:19:07 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Sub-Driver
The A.P., a nonprofit corporation....

Holy irony, Batman!

5 posted on 07/25/2009 10:19:10 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Sub-Driver

should be the last nail in their collective coffin


6 posted on 07/25/2009 10:19:23 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: Sub-Driver

How about Universal Access to AP Articles Reform?


7 posted on 07/25/2009 10:19:37 AM PDT by exist
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

ROFL!


8 posted on 07/25/2009 10:20:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Hilarious.

"I'm going to lie to you and you're going to like it."
"Well, I don't like it."
"Okay, then I'm going to charge you for it."

9 posted on 07/25/2009 10:21:08 AM PDT by PressurePoint (See you in the unemployment line, Barack)
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To: Sub-Driver
The goal, he said, was not to have less use of the news articles, but to be paid for any use.

No, that's just a rather nasty side effect.

10 posted on 07/25/2009 10:21:33 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: Lorianne
Allowing a headline and a link would steer business to their subscriber's page. Only allowing paying subscribers to use any part of an AP article will result in a withering of AP’s business eventually. Not a bad thing from my perspective.
11 posted on 07/25/2009 10:24:05 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Sub-Driver

THE REAL DEAL:

AP does not want FReepers, bloggers, and posters
to reveal they are nothing but liars. Liars. Liars.


12 posted on 07/25/2009 10:24:59 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Sub-Driver
It wants the 1,400 American newspapers that own the company to join the effort and use its software.

I don't like the sound of this...

13 posted on 07/25/2009 10:26:54 AM PDT by John123 (Turn on your teleprompter Obama and read your lips... "No New Taxes!!")
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To: Sub-Driver

Most of what they write is synthesized propaganda, loaded with weasel words and designed for idiots. They are the first order of communist boot lickers.

Those are their good points.


14 posted on 07/25/2009 10:30:53 AM PDT by Luke21 (If it's the Asspress, it's usually a lie.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I run a small website locally that aggregates news articles from all over. I have been threatened with a lawsuit twice by the local AP outlet, on the grounds that my website constitutes “unfair competition”. They have threatened my twice and backed down both times.

I think if the local newspapers decided to try this hardline attitude that the AP is taking, it will be the final nail in the coffin for many if not most of them.


15 posted on 07/25/2009 10:31:34 AM PDT by Bean Counter ( Shovel ready...)
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To: Diogenesis
As a blogger, the solution presents itself: paraphrase any news story written by AP you find useful and never, ever link to it no matter where you find it posted.

Let's see how their subscribed customers like the reduced amount of indirect traffic they get on the web. All of the newspapers are suffering as it is. They get on board with this it will simply further reduce the amount of traffic they get.

Sounds like a win-win solution to their biased coverage; AP and all the rest go down in flames.
16 posted on 07/25/2009 10:32:32 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Without God there is no freedom, for what rights man can give, he can take away.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines


"Hello? Connect me with Chief Editor Kourir of African Press International please."
17 posted on 07/25/2009 10:34:10 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Sub-Driver

Following the RIAA strategy of “sue your fans.” With similar success, most likely.


18 posted on 07/25/2009 10:35:35 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: John123

I guess it may mean more work for us posting Freepers.

AP news stories can still be discussed here if you write a “vanity” saying I have read at NYT this and that, and express with your own words the gist of the story.
(Of course no link can be provided, but if you give enough info people can find the article themselves.)

No way they can stop that.


19 posted on 07/25/2009 10:36:50 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Bean Counter
I run a small website locally that aggregates news articles from all over. I have been threatened with a lawsuit twice by the local AP outlet, on the grounds that my website constitutes “unfair competition”. They have threatened my twice and backed down both times.

They are truly nuts. FR limits AP content to a headline, link and a few sentences. If interested in the story, I will click on a link to the article that will bring it up along with ads and links to their other articles. Forbidding even a headline and a link will ensure their content is not read at all. Throw the baby out with the bathwater, will ya.

20 posted on 07/25/2009 10:36:59 AM PDT by CedarDave (Obama's EPA wants to get rid of cows: They emit CO2 from the front end and CH4 from the rear.)
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To: Sudetenland

You beat me to it.

:)


21 posted on 07/25/2009 10:37:51 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Sub-Driver

The AP’s sh*t is the worst propaganda out there. the sooner they die - the better. Ditto NY Slimes, CNN and MSNBC which are also among the most biased Obama propaganda posing as news.


22 posted on 07/25/2009 10:38:15 AM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Lest we forget, it's all......
23 posted on 07/25/2009 10:38:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The boy's war iin Dor tetriot has already cost more then the war in Iraq.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Like they have anything note worthy to say. NOT

I don’t read them anyway so I don’t think I will miss them.


24 posted on 07/25/2009 10:40:53 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sub-Driver

Bump


25 posted on 07/25/2009 10:42:06 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Sub-Driver
The Associated Press said Thursday that it would add software to each article...

I've spent over 40 years in the software field and have no idea how to add software to an article. :-)

26 posted on 07/25/2009 10:48:20 AM PDT by NCjim ("Lies have to be covered up, truth can run around naked." - Johnny Cash)
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To: ScaniaBoy
AP news stories can still be discussed here if you write a “vanity” saying I have read at NYT this and that, and express with your own words the gist of the story.

Unfortunately, right or wrong, Free Republic has been set up or evolved to treat vanities and blog citations as "second class" posts. As a likely result, important information and AP lies that need exposure won't get the attention they deserve.

27 posted on 07/25/2009 10:49:16 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: PressurePoint
Hilarious. "I'm going to lie to you and you're going to like it." "Well, I don't like it." "Okay, then I'm going to charge you for it."

The solution.....

We have a DESIGNATED Purchaser that will report to us....we can all chip in and pay the ONE fee...they will still go bankrupt! LOL

28 posted on 07/25/2009 10:53:17 AM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 91:4 ...staying cuddled Under His Wings)
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To: Frantzie

“The AP’s sh*t is the worst propaganda out there. the sooner they die......”

They are the six fanged vampire of the news industry. They provide ADD summaries of the news with slant and bias that resembles advertising messages. You don’t even have to read it to know what is there.


29 posted on 07/25/2009 10:56:10 AM PDT by Luke21 (If it's from the Asspress, it's usually a lie.)
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To: pollywog

But wait, I’ve been trying to learn liberal logic and I think I’ve got it down: The Constitution guarantees a free press. Therefore news is a “right” that must be provided by the government. Sounds like Obama should be paying for everyone’s AP subscriptions.


30 posted on 07/25/2009 10:58:18 AM PDT by PressurePoint (See you in the unemployment line, Barack)
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To: Sub-Driver
Well,when rational people state on-line the fact that you are an agenda driven,obtuse Leftist scurrilous sycophant of Democrat mendacity and then link to you as proof,wouldn't you want to get paid?
31 posted on 07/25/2009 11:00:43 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Charlie don't surf--and neither does Obama.")
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To: NCjim

I’m with you, I can think of no way this would actually work.

I think some tech-ignorant executive team got scammed by a software salesman and just publicized that fact internationally.


32 posted on 07/25/2009 11:05:19 AM PDT by HarryCaul (Verify Possums! Pogo's Enemy is Us!)
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To: NCjim
I've spent over 40 years in the software field and have no idea how to add software to an article.

Same way you add a virus to a photo or an email.

33 posted on 07/25/2009 11:09:46 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: NCjim
I've spent over 40 years in the software field and have no idea how to add software to an article. :-)

I can think of several ways. Hide some code in an embedded small transparent graphic that the lazy will cut and paste with the text would be the easiest way.

You might read the entry on Web Bugs here:
http://www.clearleadinc.com/site/internet_privacy.html

35 posted on 07/25/2009 11:40:20 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35; NCjim

And you probably need to download Ad-Aware from Lavasoft or Spybot Search and Destroy if you don’t know about spyware.


36 posted on 07/25/2009 11:42:20 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Sub-Driver

Tom Curley

37 posted on 07/25/2009 11:44:33 AM PDT by kcvl
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He has been president and chief executive officer of the Associated Press since 2003. He was previously president and publisher of USA Today since 1988; his brother, John Curley, was the paper’s first editor.

Curley began his career covering high school basketball for his hometown paper. He became director of information for Gannett Company in 1976


38 posted on 07/25/2009 11:45:48 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver
06.11.04

Bill Moyers talks to President and CEO of the Associated Press Tom Curley about a new press effort, led by him and others in the media business, to push for less secrecy in government. In a May 7th speech, Curley unveiled a plan for a "media advocacy center" to lobby for open government in Washington. "The government is pushing hard for secrecy," Curley said. "We must push back equally hard for openness."

39 posted on 07/25/2009 11:50:21 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver; Jim Robinson

Sounds like an udated FR rule may be neeed to preclude trouble saying; No using any A.P. sourced stories.


40 posted on 07/25/2009 12:55:18 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s hard to tell what they’ll end up doing, but I think they resent google doing including them in their web searches—which basically means using the whole article as people search for words that may appear in it.

But if google no longer includes AP articles in their search machine, then nobody is going to see AP at all. They’d lose maybe 90% of their current readers, I suspect.

People use google to find articles, but then they go to the articles and give them an ad hit. That’s a lot of lost ad hits.


41 posted on 07/25/2009 1:01:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
I think you're right in that it isn't the display of headlines that's the issue (what happened to "fair use?"), but the fact that search engines like Google have to actually read the entire article in order to tag it with the proper keywords. Does Google have rights to access the full article for their own business purposes, and not just to read the article for their own personal use?

-PJ

42 posted on 07/25/2009 1:07:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: PressurePoint

LOLOLOL!!! YOu have made a very VALID POINT! Pay up Zero...pay up!!


43 posted on 07/25/2009 1:17:39 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 91:4 ...staying cuddled Under His Wings)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh please let them do this. It will guarantee their demise.


44 posted on 07/25/2009 2:43:38 PM PDT by AdaGray (uw)
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To: CedarDave

The answer here locally has been to totally ignore them and discourage posting as little of their material as can be found elsewhere. Many times I can find the same material reported better in one of their rival’s papers anyway.

I still have one of their reporters hit my site daily looking for material (I know what his IP is). Same for the newsroom server for the very guys who say I’m “unfair competition”. I find that the very worst thing I can do is ignore them...they are by nature attention whores, and it bites deep when nobody pays them any mind.

At some point there needs to be a complete boycott of AP to let them know the ‘net can push back.


45 posted on 07/25/2009 3:27:49 PM PDT by Bean Counter ( Shovel ready...)
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To: PAR35

I always paste into something that only understands plain text then copy/paste from there into the final target.

As for Ad-Aware I could not live without it!!!


46 posted on 07/25/2009 3:42:41 PM PDT by NCjim ("Lies have to be covered up, truth can run around naked." - Johnny Cash)
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