Posted on 07/25/2009 8:10:03 PM PDT by merena
Ok guys I need some volunteers to help me. If you know Spanish and can read Spanish or have a good computer translator I need your help.FARC I believe is deeply involved in leftist politics in all of the ALBA countries and I want to prove it. So what I need at this point is different key articles that will point to FARC growth in these countries since the rise to power of leftist in all of these countries. Venezuela, Honduras, Ecuador, Bolvia, Argentina, Brazil, Nicaragua, Dominica, Antigua and Barbuda, San Vicente and Grenadines, Cuba, ..these are all ALBA countries. Notably they also always get very offended when a neighboring country invites the US to set up shop in their country...Honduras is one that still has a base, but Zelaya tried to do away with it using the excuse of a plane crash..he even went as far as closing down the airport at Tegucigalpa...abusing his power ...and annoucing that he was going to make Palmerola an airport sometime back..I don´t know exactly how they nixed it but they did. Anyhow this is bigger than me as just Honduras and FARC together brings up over sixty pages in google...I can only imagine the rest. So if we can all work together on this we might be able to destroy a terrorist in our own back yard. Granted the Taliban and Al Qaeda are threats..but the real threat is staring the US in the face south of the border and it isn´t Mexico you need to worry about.
So you want to help? Which country do you want? I already laid claim on half of Honduras since I have local access to older papers and understand the local idioms which can be difficult to understand in our papers even with a translator...
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No senor, no habla ingles...
Help ping.
Ok basically what I want is for people willing to look at the different articles on FARC and a certain country member of ALBA...for instance Venezuela. It probably would be better to have two or three on each country..so volunteer and tell me which country you want. For Honduras I recommend actual Spanish speakers our papers are written in local lingusitic form so the translators don´t work well with them..but the others should be fine.
At the end we will all put together the study and send a copy with our actual names on it to the DEA, the Department of Homeland Security, and of course Congress, the Sec of State, and the President for their attention. This is serious and everyone will get credit for it. If there is any reward in the end we should either donate part of it to this group and a charity and we can also make it a campaign donation however, we choose..but I don´t promise we will get money out of it..but getting rid of terrorists to me is more important than money.
Google’s translation is not half bad, albeit cumbersome to use. Spanish also isn’t too hard to learn.
To the topic at hand, I’m not sure about FARC...they’ve been losing power for quite some time since President Uribe in Colombia started cracking down hard. Still worth looking into I suppose. But, if I were to guess where a lot of the behind the scenes trouble comes from, it isn’t Venezuela or Honduras—but our good old friend Cuba.
A lot of it though doesn’t come down to Glorious Communist Revolution ideology, but just cold hard cash. Drug cartels have much influence in these countries, and organized crime is an international game. Heroin producing syndicates in Southeast Asia use the South American cartels to push their product in the US, and likewise the South American cartels sell cocaine abroad through organized crime overseas. They use FARC and other militant groups to keep the government preoccupied by other problems.
Actually we had a surprising growth of FARC, ironically also Mexican cartels in Honduras just before and after signing ALBA. They didn´t shrink they networked. Our kidnappings for ransom have tripled here. Drug trafficking from Venezuela is bad enough we were named a narco state...embarrassing to say the least..then Zelaya is knocked out of power and today FARC condemns the coup of Zelaya..more than enough to raise eyebrows..last year we siezed a huge weapons cashe that belonged to FARC and 480 thousand dollars belonging to them as well. There was an entire newspaper about six months ago dedicated to the growth of FARC and at the time they didn´t make the connection of ALBA and FARC..but I am betting something is there..they are shrewd and marxist and so is ALBA as well as ironically all of these countries removing DEA agents from their areas, Venezuela refuses to call them terrorists and Ecuador threw a fit when Columbia attacked a rebel camp.
I am betting we don´t know half of it.
Its bigger than FARC.
Keep in mind that Chavez is FARC and FARC is an extension of Chavez’ power. Chavez was on FARC’s payroll before he was president and now FARC is on Chavez’ payroll, essentially. They are based inside Venezuela and receive large amounts of money and weapons from Chavez.
We know this because it was on the hard-drive captured by the Colombians when they killed FARC’s number 2 inside Ecuador. From the harddrive we also know that Ecuador’s Correa (president) received campaign money from FARC.
We also know that FARC donated to Brazil’s president “Lula”’s campaign. But keep in mind that FARC is now acting as an extension of Chavez’ power now, and not the other way around.
Chavez funded the coup in Ecuador when president Mahuad was overthrown, and the coup leader was eventually elected president. He’s gone, but another Chavist (Correa) is in power now.
Another extension of marxist power in Ecuador, for example, are the indian tribes who have european advisors. They also are receiving Saudi money, I believe. And I believe that because the “charity” that works with them last time I checked had only two other operations, one in Gaza, and one in Bosnia. That smells like Saudi money. Since one of the main things the tribes do is impede oil drilling in the Amazon, it fits. Although, come to think, it could be Iranian money, but I think the Saudis are more active in the oil regions.
The tribes were the shock troops that put Chavist Morales in power in Bolivia.
And the tribes are uprising in Peru. There was recently a big demonstration involving the tribes that killed a couple dozen policemen... its purpose was to stop oil development in the Peruvian amazon. There has already been a military rebellion that failed, and its leaders are on Chavez’ payroll.
There is a connection between Chavez and FARC, I think Chavez uses them for stuff that needs to be deniable. He is also connected to Iran and Khadaffi (and made a big show of donating a million dollars to the Taliban right after 911).
So think Chavez, Castro brothers, Iran, Al Qaeda. His body guard is Cuban, he keeps Cuban observors in every one of his military bases. His officers, when they complete their advanced war college, go to Cuba to meet their opposite numbers. Iran and Saddam both sent security people to work with his security services and Venezuelans say that Al Qaeda gets to operate freely inside Venezuelan territory.
So its a mess.
Ok, this is the first I heard that on the hard drive was that Chavez and FARC were the same thing...
I did know that they claimed on a hard drive..supposedly the same one that Rafael Correa´s presidential campaign was financed by them. I also know that Correa´s brother received government contracts in contrary to Ecuador´s laws...so for the meantime he is forbidden from leaving the country while the investigation is ongoing...his trip to Mercosur´s meeting was cancelled by Congress there..Not sure how he is going to manage his way out of this one.
If Chavez is FARC or leads FARC and finances them then you are partially confirming my suspicions...but where is the proof?
I do know that ALBA is a military alliance against the US...Chavez wants to overthrow the US government and it is no secret here that this is his goal..that is why there was such a controversy when Zelaya signed us to ALBA...of course our Congress has already taken steps to suspend our membership in ALBA.
I'm sorry if I'm not clear. That was my analysis. Thats my opinion.
Chavez was on their payroll to the tune of tens of thousands while he was in jail and after. Since becoming president they are on his payroll to the tune of hundreds of millions.
They use Venezuelan territory as their safe rear zone. Their "high value" prisoners are kept on Venezuelan soil. We know that because one of the prisoners that was released was told "lucky you're not very important, you'd have to walk all the way to Venezuela" or something to the effect by one of his FARC guardians. The Colombians have captured several arms caches bearing Venezuelan military markings. There have been numerous attacks launched from across the river from the Venezuelan side. I have read of at least one attack that had Venezuelan air support.
Chavez has often had FARC members on the podium with him during military ceremonies, and before bringing in the Cubans he had FARC as his bodyguards.
He has given FARC leaders Venezuelan citizenship so they could travel freely, and they have lived openly in Caracas.
So based on that I have sometimes said that when Chavez was elected president of Venezuela, FARC conquered Venezuela. And with the death of Marulanda I have made the remark that Chavez is now the defacto head of FARC. But of course that is just my analysis.
That there is a broader conspiracy I agree with you. Is ALBA an extension of FARC or are ALBA and FARC both arms of the Chavist conspiracy? Or are FARC and ALBA and Chavez arms of a broader conspiracy yet, considering his connections to Iran and Al Qaeda and the Castro brothers?
My impression has been that Chavez sees himself as heir to Fidel's revolution, which is why he has supported Cuba financially for years now, and has built strong connections between the Venezuelan military and the Cuban military, his security services and the Cuban security services. I think with the death of the Castros he hopes to be their heir. I think he is already; he finances them, and not the other way around. That in effect puts him in the drivers seat, same as with FARC. Same as with Ortega in Nicaragua and Morales in Bolivia and Correa in Ecuador, and apparently same with the Humala brothers in Peru who have launched a couple of military rebellions there (and their father has called for the release of Guzman, head of Shining Path).
The guy with the money is the guy in control.
In any case, I think you are right in seeing ALBA and FARC as belonging to the same conspiracy. FARC was isolated for a long time with the fall off the Iron Curtain and the Soviet Union, but from the day Chavez took over the nature of the conspiracy has changed and metasticized.
Interesting. You seem to know more about this than I do. I’d be interested to see your findings when you’re done with your research.
I will launch a report here when finished..I have my hands full right now with this so I haven´t posted much, plus trying to pay attention to what is going on here and go on with normal daily life...sleep is one of those things that you do when you have a chance around here lately.
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