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Americans' right to carry: The Second Amendment doesn't stop at state lines
Washington Times ^ | Sunday, July 26, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 07/25/2009 9:07:04 PM PDT by JohnRLott

States offer a hodgepodge of concealed-handgun rules that prevent citizens from protecting themselves when traveling from one state to another. Sen. John Thune, South Dakota Republican, introduced an amendment to the defense authorization bill that would have fixed this problem by granting reciprocity for gun permits across state lines. In a 58-39 vote on Wednesday, supporters fell two short of the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. This was a victory of fear over facts.

Thirty-seven of the 39 no votes were cast by Democrats. The two Republicans who crossed party lines to vote nay were Sen. Richard G. Lugar of Indiana and Sen. George V. Voinovich of Ohio. Gun-control advocates were predicting the worst if the vote succeeded. Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg, New Jersey Democrat, warned of a "radical agenda [that would put guns] ahead of safety and security in our communities." Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, said, "It could reverse the dramatic success we've had in reducing crime in most all parts of America."

The claims echo those made when concealed-handgun laws were being debated and introduced across the country over the past few decades. Gun controllers warned that permit holders would lose their tempers and there would be blood in the streets. That never happened. . . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2ndamendment; agenda; banglist; concealedcarry; democratcongress; democratcorruption; democrats; donttreadonme; guncontrol; lautenberg; lping; lugar; schumer; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; thune; voinovich; washingtontimes

1 posted on 07/25/2009 9:07:05 PM PDT by JohnRLott
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To: JohnRLott
"There will be blood in the streets" is a refuted lie that they continue to roll out at every chance.
2 posted on 07/25/2009 9:12:48 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: JohnRLott
The two Republicans who crossed party lines to vote nay were Sen. Richard G. Lugar of Indiana and Sen. George V. Voinovich

And yet again legislation, in this case doesn't pass, because of a few GOP crossing party lines.

3 posted on 07/25/2009 9:12:55 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: Domandred

Apparently several changed their vote to “yes” when they knew it would not pass.


4 posted on 07/25/2009 9:17:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: JohnRLott

This is the most important civil rights legislation since the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Once again ant-Bill of Rights Democrats are blocking it.


5 posted on 07/25/2009 9:18:58 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: JohnRLott
The Second Amendment is unique. Unlike the First Amendment that states “Congress shall pass no laws” the Second Amendment states more categorically that the right to keep and bear arms “shall not be infringed”.
6 posted on 07/25/2009 9:23:49 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: JohnRLott

Sorry. I tried to read the original article but just pulled up a page that never loaded fully. Hopefully another link will work better...


7 posted on 07/25/2009 9:30:22 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg, New Jersey Democrat, warned of a "radical agenda [that would put guns] ahead of safety and security in our communities."

What makes this guy think firearms and safety & security are mutually exclusive. You want to keep a bank safe, post armed guards. You want to keep an airliner safe, put an armed federal marshal on board. You want to keep a military base safe, armed soldiers patrol the perimeter. What is the common denominator when a place has to be secured? Bring in responsible people with firearms. Well effin' duh! Why are our representatives making it so hard to secure the places we go in our lives? They must want us to feel fearful, unsafe. They must want excuses to take away our liberties.

Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, said, "It could reverse the dramatic success we've had in reducing crime in most all parts of America."

Does that "dramatic success" include all the killings in supposedly "gun free" zones? Otherwise known as "target rich environments" for criminals and mentally disturbed people who walk right through laws and slaughter law-abiding citizens disarmed by their elected officials.

8 posted on 07/25/2009 10:11:19 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: Utilizer
Just got it here:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/26/americans-right-to-carry/

9 posted on 07/25/2009 10:27:39 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: umgud

>”There will be blood in the streets” is a refuted lie that they continue to roll out at every chance.

The more politicians are not held to account, or blatantly excused, (like Murtha and his slander, or Geithner and his Turbo-Tax) I find myself wondering if that’s a _BAD_ thing. [/cynic]


10 posted on 07/25/2009 11:50:50 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
They must want excuses to take away our liberties.
If you ask me our liberties have already been taken.
What they want to take away is our rights.

IMO...Stopping someone from exercising their right to self defense simply because they travel across State lines is a gross infringement of an individual's 2nd Amend. rights.

11 posted on 07/26/2009 2:36:09 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: JohnRLott

Instead of attempting to pass new laws infringing on the right to bear arms. Why not start removing the “hodgepodge of concealed-handgun rules” that infringe on the right to bear arms.


12 posted on 07/26/2009 6:20:54 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: JohnRLott

Yeah pubs vote in Sotomayor because it is politically correct.


13 posted on 07/27/2009 7:57:52 AM PDT by NoObamaFightForConservatives (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Image and video hosting by TinyPic "Only GAY MARRIAGE doesn't stop at state lines. The Second Amendment only applies to 'a well-regulated militia'. Oh yeah, and Die Infidels!"

14 posted on 07/27/2009 8:00:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: JohnRLott
We may have dodged a bullet here. If we create a Federal CCW reciprocity law, what are the chances that we open a can of worms allowing the Federal Gub’mint to determine eligibility? Next thing you know, nobody but the rich and favored and their bodyguards will qualify for ANY Concealed Carry permits.
15 posted on 07/27/2009 8:12:34 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Little Ray

We need to move towards Alaska and Vermont, and repeal any licensing requirement at all for carry of firearms.


16 posted on 07/27/2009 8:25:38 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Domandred

Yeah...Cry baby is from Ohio, but he NEVER represented me...I’m glad to see him go after this term! He should resign. George became a republican so he could go to DC, but he has always been a demoncrat.


17 posted on 07/27/2009 9:53:05 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: Little Ray

The bill only required that states that allow concealed carry respect the acts of other states. Two states do not require a permit for concealed carry, and their citizens would have been able to carry in any state that allows concealed carry under this bill.


18 posted on 07/28/2009 5:00:56 PM PDT by marktwain
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