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Useless Eaters
American Thinker ^ | July 26, 2009 | John Griffing

Posted on 07/26/2009 8:58:53 AM PDT by cricket

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To: cricket

Of course, if you have a hefty bank account, they will always find your condition to be “treatable” if not “curable”.

Till the well runs dry. Then you will be “terminal”.


61 posted on 07/26/2009 11:47:44 AM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: cricket
Democrat in 1984 quoted in the NY Times
GOV. LAMM ASSERTS ELDERLY, IF VERY ILL, HAVE 'DUTY TO DIE'
Why We Must Ration Health Care. White Man's Last Stand. Health Care Bill
Passes First Test on Capitol Hill. For Clinton, '09 Campaign Is for Her Turf ...
nytimes.com/1984/03/29/us/gov-lamm-asserts-elderly-if-very-ill-have-duty-to-die... 5.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

62 posted on 07/26/2009 11:49:27 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: cricket

The AARP has just sent out a mailing with petition forms to send to your senators—with no specifics, just a lot of namby-pamby generalities that mean nothing. In other words, a show of strength for their position whatever that may be. I know they are against universal health care, as they are basically a big insurance company, but what specifically are they for and against in this bill of goods?


63 posted on 07/26/2009 11:57:47 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
I know they are against universal health care, as they are basically a big insurance company, but what specifically are they for and against in this bill of goods?

Don't know; save they are 'Liberal'; but perhaps they have found out; they are much less so; than the current 'power structure'.

Would think by now they have read this; and they should have issues. . .

64 posted on 07/26/2009 12:02:45 PM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorrCDC STOPS DEATH COUNT...y' President))
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To: cricket

It is reprehensible that they have sent out this mailing with no specifics. Millions of well-meaning seniors may send these petitions not know what they are asking for, and not being made aware of the dangers in this bill. If so, I hope AARP is at leaat against bumping off its own members.


65 posted on 07/26/2009 12:09:13 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand; All
'TRUTH' AlERT: AARP ALERT:

t is reprehensible that they have sent out this mailing with no specifics. Millions of well-meaning seniors may send these petitions not know what they are asking for, and not being made aware of the dangers in this bill.

The answer appears to be here; at AARP site; and it is not pretty. . .they are doing 'phone-in' town meetings; and connecting members by phone to their Congress Reps as well. . .

The truth be damned commentary and responses from AARP

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourhealth/policy/articles/aarp_telephone_town_hall_meetings_on_health_care_reform_draw_400_000.html

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“The moment is right—people are interested, they’re listening, they’re asking questions,” says Barry Jackson, AARP’s manager for advocacy. Jackson says AARP state offices will continue to hold both local tele-town halls and national sessions as the debate over health care intensifies.

Here then, are some of the typical questions and answers fielded during the town hall meetings.

Why is AARP not standing up for seniors when Obama says he will cut Medicare to help pay for health care?

The proposed changes to Medicare will help to get fraud, waste and abuse out of the system and create payment incentives to reward doctors and hospitals for the quality, rather than the quantity, of care they provide. They will not cut the benefits our members rely on in the traditional Medicare program, but will help to keep it affordable to make sure you get the care you need.

Isn’t this socialized medicine?

No. In socialized medicine the government directly owns the hospitals and directly employs the doctors. No one in Washington is talking seriously about anything like that. What health reform will do instead is provide people with a system much like the one members of Congress enjoy today. They will be able to choose from a range of quality, affordable private health plans, and possibly a publicly run option as well.

These plans will have to accept everyone regardless of preexisting conditions or age. There also will be sliding-scale subsides for people with moderate to low incomes to make sure the coverage is affordable for everyone.

Will I lose access to my doctor?

No. The legislation will include a much-needed fix to the Medicare physician payment system to prevent an unwarranted 20 percent cut in their rates that otherwise would take effect next January and threaten access to doctors. It also will increase pay for primary care doctors to help preserve access to them, and promote training of more primary care doctors and nurses and geriatricians so we have enough health professionals to treat everyone.

Will there be rationing of health care to seniors based on age?

Absolutely not! That’s a very harmful myth that opponents of reform are spreading to scare seniors. Nothing in the proposed legislation would lead to rationing of care for older Americans or anyone, and if it did, AARP would be leading the fight to kill it.

Is there mandatory end-of-life counseling for all seniors? Why?

No. This is another myth that reform opponents are using to scare people. What the bill does is let physicians get paid by Medicare for counseling people about things like advance directives, living wills, durable powers of attorney, hospice care and other steps people can take to make sure their wishes about how they want to be cared for at the end of life are known and followed.

It’s entirely up to the doctor and patient whether this counseling takes place, and completely up to patients whether they take steps based on the counseling to put their end-of-life wishes into legal documents.

Facing a terminal disease or debilitating accident, some people want every possible life-saving measure in the hopes that treatment will give them more time with their families. Others will decide that additional treatment is not what they want and decline extraordinary measures.

Either way, it should be their choice; all this does is help them make informed decisions about these issues with their doctor.

Will I be losing Medicare as the result of reform?

No. If you like the coverage you have, you can keep it, and that includes Medicare and your medigap coverage. Reform will help curb skyrocketing inflation throughout our health care system, including Medicare, so that Medicare coverage remains affordable for both you and the taxpayers who help foot the bill.

Will I be able to keep my current insurance coverage, which works well?

Yes. If you like the coverage you have, you can keep it.

Will preexisting conditions continue to exclude people from coverage?

No. There is broad, bipartisan agreement that health reform should ban insurers from discriminating against people based on any preexisting health problems.

Elizabeth Agnvall is a contributing editor at the AARP Bulletin.

Well, let's hear for Elizabeth! Good Job!/not. . .outrageous, really; and record here, needs to be corrected so as to tell the truth!.

66 posted on 07/26/2009 12:49:39 PM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorrCDC STOPS DEATH COUNT...y' President))
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To: firebrand

AARP members are the folks who believe there is a Social Security “trust fund”.
Good luck trying to use logic on them.


67 posted on 07/26/2009 12:54:13 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Las Vegas Ron

And believe me, it’s nice to be seen—esp. by YOU. Just celebrated my 70th birthday, I feel very good, and the world is still on its axis—I think. Love, Maryxxx


69 posted on 07/26/2009 4:49:03 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: sport

Good for you.


70 posted on 07/26/2009 4:49:24 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Presley OBannon
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE REPUBLICANS!

Lol. . .if only/sigh. . .

71 posted on 07/26/2009 4:50:49 PM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorrCDC STOPS DEATH COUNT...y' President))
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To: Marysecretary
Thank you Mary, you're very sweet.

A very, very Happy Birthday to you, and May God Bless and keep you.

XXXOOO

72 posted on 07/26/2009 6:37:23 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Move over NetZero - Obama's in the house!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Bless you, Ron. Love to you, too.


73 posted on 07/26/2009 6:51:36 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: RWGinger
If this alone does not get people burning up the phone lines and emailing we are no better than the Germans who did nothing

Germany didn't need more opposing articles and strongly-worded letters.

74 posted on 07/26/2009 7:05:40 PM PDT by John Titor
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To: cricket

As essentially a giant insurance company, AARP stands to benefit when medical costs go down, even when costly patients go out of the picture, so it is not surprising that they are backing the Brave New World bill. As I suspected I’m afraid. Thanks for the info.


75 posted on 07/26/2009 8:50:54 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
As essentially a giant insurance company, AARP stands to benefit when medical costs go down, even when costly patients go out of the picture, so it is not surprising that they are backing the Brave New World bill. As I suspected I’m afraid.

Here is one of our Country's largest 'Lobby's'; and it is misleading/lying to it's membership!

Senator Kyl offered today; that this issue does need more time; and that Congress is listening to the people they represent. That is great; but the fast-talking Dems pushing this; cannot be allowed to get away with their continually misrepresenting the truth here.

(Of course, that IS how we arrived here at this critical moment of truth that our Country is facing.)

We can all think of a few places to share 'e-mail' here - 'challenge the media and our Reps to 'challenge AARP - and perhaps Elizabeth Agnvall could use a few more in her mailbox. . .

76 posted on 07/27/2009 12:52:05 AM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorrCDC STOPS DEATH COUNT...y' President))
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To: All
Just took a trip. . .googled 'uesless eaters'; a term somewhat 'familiar' but wanted to ID it; specifically.

And so spent the last hour; moving around the world - and now, back again; but no 'jiggity-jog' about it.

Given that we all; if not already; are destined to be - 'useless eaters'; and that this is a longstanding MO; think I will just check my refrigerator. . .before I go to bed.

77 posted on 07/27/2009 1:35:40 AM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorrCDC STOPS DEATH COUNT...y' President))
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To: redhead; All
RE bumper sticker: works and/lol. ..if only/sigh!

Am sure Freepers could fill a volume; don't you think? Here's a few per my 'two cents'. . .

Obama Care/ Old; Infirm; Disabled. . .Need NOT APPLY

Government Health Care/ Don't be a CANDIDATE

Heath Care REFORM RATIONING/ line starts at the back

Soylent Green IS GREEN!

OBAMA CARE/ If You cannot Remember - FORGET IT!

Imagery comes to mind. . .Wyeth's Christina's World. . .and Edvard Munch's The Scream. . .

78 posted on 07/27/2009 2:13:19 AM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me . . Obama ' (America's 'sorrCDC STOPS DEATH COUNT...y' President))
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To: verity
I checked the list: Your name definitely appears on it.

Does it appear above, or below, *mine*?

the infowarrior

79 posted on 07/27/2009 3:00:51 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: engrpat
Have we really become a people that holds life so cheaply? Have we become a people that is willing to let the state put a price tag on a life? There are 3rd world countries with better values than what we are showing in this legislation.

The answer to your questions are, alas, yes... By and large we have become such a people. This is the true legacy of Roe vs. Wade, now coming home to roost...

the infowarrior

80 posted on 07/27/2009 3:04:52 AM PDT by infowarrior
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