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Mother, 2 daughters drown in hotel pool
UPI ^ | July 22, 2009

Posted on 07/26/2009 3:41:43 PM PDT by Sammy67

A Toronto man and surviving family members are mourning the drowning deaths of his wife and two daughters in a hotel swimming pool.

Naila Yasmin, 43, was found floating face down in the deep end of the unsupervised pool at a Best Western hotel Sunday morning and her 11- and 14-year-old daughters were found floating in the pool's shallow end.

The mother was declared dead at Kingston General Hospital that day, while the 14-year-old died Monday, followed by her 11-year-old sister Tuesday, the Toronto Star reported Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; crime; drown; honorkilling; islam; kingston; muslim; ontario
More drowned Muslims near Kingston Ontario

What is the total for this month now, ten I think it is? Maybe the Canadian Government department of multiculturalism should offer swimming lessons to Muslim women?

1 posted on 07/26/2009 3:41:44 PM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

Okay.....who wants to bet on an honor killing here?


2 posted on 07/26/2009 3:43:43 PM PDT by Morgana (Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers. ---- - Alfred Lord Tennyson)
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To: All

Similiar Story

‘Crime of honour’ arrests Cops say family conspired in girls’ deaths
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2301542/posts


3 posted on 07/26/2009 3:43:57 PM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

Can you say “Honor killing” ????

How about just regular killing ???


4 posted on 07/26/2009 3:44:21 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Sammy67

Got tangled in their Burkahs?...........


5 posted on 07/26/2009 3:44:29 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Sammy67

Them burquas weigh a lot when they get wet...


6 posted on 07/26/2009 3:45:13 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Sammy67
....her 11- and 14-year-old daughters were found floating in the pool's shallow end.

....Must be pretty short to drown in the shallow end.

Something stinks. Islamicide?

7 posted on 07/26/2009 3:45:14 PM PDT by library user
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To: Sammy67

Yes, I bet the man is really “mourning.” Ha. Drowning is actually right up there in the honor killing protocol. And how handy—far less forensic evidence to go on and not as obviously a murder. I’m just waiting for the diversity geniuses to explain how this is just a cultural difference.


8 posted on 07/26/2009 3:45:16 PM PDT by pharmamom (Queen. Visit the Queendom: www.whenwearequeen.com)
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To: Morgana

strange it was just the women, isn’t it?


9 posted on 07/26/2009 3:45:26 PM PDT by bareford101
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To: P8riot

I should not LOL, but I cannot help myself. Man, that’s funny (and very bad, at the same time). LOL.


10 posted on 07/26/2009 3:45:54 PM PDT by library user
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To: library user

Just askin......ya know?


11 posted on 07/26/2009 3:46:36 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I am wondering if the mother killed her daughters then herself.


12 posted on 07/26/2009 3:47:11 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Sammy67
Why can't Canadian Islamic woman swim?

That's one for "Ask The Imam". /s

This story stinks.

13 posted on 07/26/2009 3:48:01 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Sammy67
Naila Yasmin...

Hmmmmm.....anybody else's tin-foil hat tingling?

14 posted on 07/26/2009 3:50:30 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: csvset

What are the odds all 3 couldn’t swim? What are the odds all 3 couldn’t swim and knew this fact, but chose to swim anyway? What are the odds foul play had a hand in this?


15 posted on 07/26/2009 3:51:14 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Morgana
Okay.....who wants to bet on an honor killing here?

Okay....who thinks Canada's politically-correct establishment wants to investigate an obvious honor killing?

Found early Sunday morning -- indicates they drowned overnight while nobody else would be around to hear any screams.

16 posted on 07/26/2009 3:52:52 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: Sammy67

Suspicious nomatter what the facts may be. Three people all drowning accidentally together seems pretty unlikely. But then again, how do you intentionally drown three people without at least one of them getting away?

I’d like to know if there are any elder sons that may have helped.


17 posted on 07/26/2009 3:57:18 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Sammy67

Sumthin’ don’t sound right.


18 posted on 07/26/2009 3:57:35 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: PapaBear3625

drowning is a common way for honor killing to happen. Esp. in rich Saudi Arabia families.

Wanna bet they will find drugs in the women’s bodies as well?


19 posted on 07/26/2009 3:58:01 PM PDT by Morgana (Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers. ---- - Alfred Lord Tennyson)
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To: Sammy67

Since Canada is now short of three Muslims, will the Canadian govt offer immigrant visas to and bring in three more ?


20 posted on 07/26/2009 4:00:11 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: pharmamom

I wonder if they’ll find unchlorinated water in their lungs.


21 posted on 07/26/2009 4:05:27 PM PDT by scramjet (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.)
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To: Ramius
But then again, how do you intentionally drown three people without at least one of them getting away?

One at a time?

22 posted on 07/26/2009 4:06:19 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Morgana

You got it.


23 posted on 07/26/2009 4:08:03 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: PapaBear3625

probably no tests to see if they died before thrown into pool either.


24 posted on 07/26/2009 4:09:16 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: csvset

agreed. doesn’t pass the smell test. in Fresh water, wouldn’t bodies sink first, then float? And if one party was in trouble, one additional could have drowned assisting, but surely the third would have been sent to the desk for help?

I’ve stayed at Best Westerns - their pools are smallish and tend to be much narrower than a gym or school-size pool, and the ‘deep’ end is only about 6 feet and not much of it is deep end, since motel diving boards are dinosaurs nowadays. not sure of the laws in that area, but most states require some sort of pole-type rescue device and/or lifepreserver to be poolside and readily accessible. According to this story, all three could swim.


25 posted on 07/26/2009 4:10:46 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Sammy67

I am losing track. It this a new case or the third or fourth separate incident?


26 posted on 07/26/2009 4:12:46 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Sammy67

Here’s the hotel’s website - virtual tour - click the pool - there is a very wide shallow area, two sets of steps out of the deeper end, and rescue equipment immediately accessible.

http://book.bestwestern.com/bestwestern/productInfo.do?propertyCode=66017


27 posted on 07/26/2009 4:14:47 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Sammy67

Can we all say: “Rest in Peace?” What a horrible tragedy to befall a family.


28 posted on 07/26/2009 4:19:19 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: blueplum
The OPP said none of the victims knew how to swim and foul play was not suspected.
29 posted on 07/26/2009 4:21:27 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Sammy67

Maybe it would help if they didn’t wear a sack into the pool.


30 posted on 07/26/2009 4:21:56 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Sammy67

It’s a honor killing, period. It must be honor-killing season in Ontario, is all.


31 posted on 07/26/2009 4:24:19 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2111USMC

oops - and thanks - I misread the article - they cannot swim.


32 posted on 07/26/2009 4:24:30 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Sammy67

Maybe they just didn’t know how to swim and got in over their heads. It’s unfortunate.


33 posted on 07/26/2009 4:27:08 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: JLS

Two different incidents in the last week.


34 posted on 07/26/2009 4:27:37 PM PDT by Sammy67
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To: P8riot
I've seen women in the pool in their Burkinis. They don't seem to have any problem.

"Got tangled in their Burkahs?."

35 posted on 07/26/2009 4:27:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Havisham

All three of them at the same time? Very unlikely.


36 posted on 07/26/2009 4:28:47 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Sammy67

Here is the other story on FR

‘Crime of honour’ arrests Cops say family conspired in girls’ deaths
TorontoSun ^ | 7/24/09 | ROB TRIPP

Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:58:32 PM by Sammy67

KINGSTON — A Montreal businessman charged with killing four members of his family conspired with his second wife and his oldest son to commit mass murder in a bid to restore his honour, relatives of one of the victims have told Sun Media.

The family members allege Mohammed Shafi had beaten his 19-year-old daughter Zainab and threatened recently to kill her and the woman he had passed off as his cousin.

She was his first wife, though he had concealed that fact since the family of three adults, all natives of Afghanistan, and seven children moved to Canada two years ago and settled in Montreal.

“We are convinced that this is a crime of honour, organized under the guidance of Mr. Shafi, his wife Tooba and their oldest son Hamed,” Diba Masoomi wrote in an e-mail sent to Kingston Police more than two weeks ago.

Mohammed Shafi, 56, his wife Tooba, 39, and their son Hamed, 18, are each charged with four counts of first-degree murder and four counts of conspiracy to commit murder.

MONTREAL ROMANCE

Police allege the killers concocted a plan to

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2301542/posts


37 posted on 07/26/2009 4:30:49 PM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

They do not need swimming lessons, they need protection from murder. no way a mother and two daughters just drowned with no help.


38 posted on 07/26/2009 4:33:32 PM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

“no way a mother and two daughters drowned with no help”

Maybe it was a murder suicide to keep her daughters from the misery of being muslim women.


39 posted on 07/26/2009 4:39:17 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Morgana

Yes, I suspect if tox tests were done, they’d find very strong tranquilizers. Rohypnol?

At any rate, if Canada’s nanny-state cared, they’d make it mandatory for Muslim women to wear life jackets under their hajibs! Or drain all their swimming pools.


40 posted on 07/26/2009 4:40:16 PM PDT by pharmamom (Queen. Visit the Queendom: www.whenwearequeen.com)
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To: freeangel

oh, I am betting a man was involved......given their culture, it’s a given.


41 posted on 07/26/2009 4:40:51 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Sammy67
"The unidentified husband and father was having breakfast with his two sons in the hotel restaurant when the drownings occurred, the Star said."

Sadly, she created two islamofacists before she killed.

42 posted on 07/26/2009 5:02:57 PM PDT by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: Ramius

drugged and then placed in the pool
i am getting to be such a cynic.


43 posted on 07/26/2009 5:05:03 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: NoLibZone
Sadly, she created two islamofacists before she killed.

.That's disgusting.

44 posted on 07/26/2009 5:17:16 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Sammy67

RIP.


45 posted on 07/26/2009 10:34:50 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Sammy67

This article gives a bit more information. It suggests to me that the girls, who couldn’t swim, got into the deep end, got in trouble and the mother jumped in to help them.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090721/OTT_Autopsy_Pool_090721/20090722/?hub=OttawaHome


46 posted on 07/27/2009 2:50:24 AM PDT by Mila
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